ladybug8412

I have fine, porous hair and live with very high dew points year-round. I'm just learning about humectants and proteins, and I'm wanting to try a humectant and protein free hair regimen. My problem is finding co-washes, DT's, and styling products that ate free of both humectants and protein. Anyone have any suggestions? I'd much prefer products I can buy in a salon/ store.

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Fine 2b hair, medium density, high porosity, normal elasticity
High dew points every season except winter, but high humidity year-round
Modified CG since 5/26/12
Low 'poo: L'oreal EverPure
CO wash: Suave Naturals Juicy Green Apple
RO: GVP CB
DT: GVP CB
PT: ION EC twice a week; IA Girl's Gelatin PT once a week
LI: GVP CB
Sealer: L'oreal EverSleek Serum
Styler: LA Looks Nutra Curl gel or JC CC; BRHG
Methods: pixie diffusing until dry, SOTC
HG Products: BRHG, GVP CB

earthnut

Everyday shea is a very simple conditioner, basically just an emulsion of water and oil.

Gels are usually high in humectants. But aloe vera gel, marshmallow root (like in kinky curly products), and flax seed gel are mild humectants, not like glycerin, sorbitol, and propylene glycol.

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2c/3a-M-ii porous, good elasticity, APL, dark brown with a silver lining. Biggest enemy: frizz!

Rimi

I second this. I think it will be light enough for your texture and curl pattern. Plus, it runs for something like $13/32 oz. at Whole Foods.

KCKT is also a great product to try. Sealing with a bit of oil would knock back any of the problems that the marshmallow root may give you.

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earthnut

Oils are "anti humectants" so you could try sealing with a small amount of a liquid oil, like olive oil.

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2c/3a-M-ii porous, good elasticity, APL, dark brown with a silver lining. Biggest enemy: frizz!

earthnut

You could also try suave naturals pomegranate or cherry conditioners. I couldn't find humectants or proteins in their ingredients.

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2c/3a-M-ii porous, good elasticity, APL, dark brown with a silver lining. Biggest enemy: frizz!

elizard

what does it mean to seal with oil?

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2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd

low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF

earthnut

It means to apply a small amount of oil to your hair and work it in well. I will put a drop or two of oil on my hand, rub my hands together, and then finger comb half my hair. Repeat on other side, and as necessary until I've applied enough oil. If you have denser, curlier, or more porous hair, you may need more oil and it may be easier to apply if you section your hair. It doesn't take much oil at all and it's better to err on the side of too little so your hair isn't greasy. You may want to do it on dry hair at first to get a feel of how much oil your hair likes. Some people can even forego conditioner altogether and just use oils.

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2c/M/ii, porous, good elasticity, random kinks, APL, platinum black.
Loving preening, oils, plopping. Avoiding sulfates, silicones, polymers.

elizard

Thank you for your response. That's really helpful. So when would you do the sealing in your product routine?

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2b/c wavy modified CG since July 2012
medium texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
hair likes protein, doesn't like oils, easily OC'd

low poo: JCHCC, CJGCS
RO/co-wash/LI: YTCarrots, DB Pumpkin Seed
stylers: a bunch of stylers that are all pretty much the same (KCCC, UFDCM, CRCM, CKCJ) or ArcAngel if I need more hold
DT/PT: CJRM, CNPF

redlipstick

some people seal after their leave in and before their styler and some people seal as the second step in the LOC (liquid, oil, cream) method when not using a styler. I am starting to think this means the same thing - after the leave-in to seal moisture in the hair.

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Aiusagi

So you add oil /after/ your leave in? Meaning you don't wash it out in the shower?

NvmbrCurlss

If ur hair is fine, u may want to mix an oil with ur leave in. Some fine curlies (like myself) can't seal in a separate step...

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3B, Fine, Normal P, Normal E, Low-Med D
LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
NoP: As I Am CC
RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)


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