Plz give advice on finding products and what ingrediemts to get and avoid

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Fine, high porosity, high humidity, med-high density hair with TONS of issues figuring this CG stuff out..
Curremt products: shea moisture moisture retention shampoo, tresemme naturals conditioner- one of these is making my hair nasty n idk why. My hair gets limp, stiff and oily all at once. I also try shea moisture milk and ecostyler olive oil gel on my hair, but the milk doesnt give hold, and thr gel causes dry, sticky, stringy hair.. But hold.. Plz help i feel so lost ik firefox suggested protein and to avoid humectants if that helps give an idea to anyone of what i should look for, not look for, and what products to try (gel, mousse, cream, what? )

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Fine porous hair in high humidity is a tough combo. This is useful
Ingredients Commonly Found in Hair Care Products
It's time consuming but honestly read as many of the 'curl chemist' articles by Tonya McKay here on NC as possible, also the Natural Haven blog, you will learn a lot about ingredients and properties of wavy/ curly hair.

Shea Moisture shampoo
"Deionized Water, Decyl Glucoside (Sugar Beets), African Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter)*, Aloe Vera Leaf Juice, Argan Oil, Panthenol (Pro‐Vitamin B‐5, Rosemary Extract, Sea Kelp Extract, Vitamin E, Lonicera Caprifolium (Honeysuckle) Flower (and) Lonicera Japonica (Japanese Honeysuckle) Flower Extract."

Personally I think cleansing products for fine hairs or weaker wavies should simply cleanse without stripping. Once you get into expectations of 'moisture' or conditioning the product has to deposit ingredients which can weigh hair down or cause build up. Your conditioners are what condition and treat your hair, reduce frizz and encourage clumps and you will be using plenty of these - wash out, leave in, deep - so you should not need your cleanser to condition also.

Shea butter can build up, if your hair is oily that would seem like a possibilty. Shea Moisture and Ecostyler are well liked, but they were originally formulated more for kinky coily type hair so may be too heavy for you, especially together. Other ingredients that can build up weighing hair down include silicones, some polyquats, waxes like cetyl esters, mineral oil and petrolatum.

Which version of Tresemme Naturals? I believe they recently reformulated and there are several in the line. Can you link to the ingredients of the product you have?

For protein you might just purchase the Colorful neutral protein filler from Sallys and add a little to a basic conditioner, they you can increase or adapt as you see fit. Otherwise Mill Creek biotin conditioner contains protein and panthenol and is reasonably priced. I also like Komaza Care Matani repair treatment spray for a light shot of protein, panthenol and ceramides, but you would probably need to use this as well as a creamy leave in. I am using and loving Gliss (Kur) ultimate volume conditioner for protein and panthenol, tho it's not so easy to source in the US.

For styling you might get on better with a jelly type product (eg. flaxseed, okra) or spray gel, these are lighter/ more watery than a commercial hard hold gel but still give hold. You might be able to make Ecostyler into a spray gel if you Google or search YouTube for a recipe. If your hair is absorbing a lot of water from the air because your products are not working for you, it's unlikely any styler will be able to stop that because they are either water soluble (so water from the air can easily penetrate them) or contains oils/ butters which act as anti humectants but weigh hair down.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
http://mobile.walmart.com/m/phoenix;...67463356E#home

I got it from my local walmart n the ingredients are listed under the item description on this page!

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Link doesn't work unfortunately, maybe post again when you are near a PC, cellphone links are often dodgy.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
No access to computer, but, if it helps its walmarts tresemme naturals avacado and aloe vera conditioner

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When adding that colorful protein to stuff, just a couple drops? And would it be bad to try it with tresemme naturals, since i may not b doing good with aloe (im trying to fig that out), if so, do i just add a few drops to a deep conditioner?

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Also i have colored hair, it wont throw off my color, will it?

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Just start with a really tiny bit in drops and only add it to a small amount of conditioner, don't contaminate your whole bottle and then find one or the other product was no good. You can try it with the Tresemme since you already have that, there may not be enough aloe in there to cause a problem for you, as long as you are not using humectants in other products. The nice thing about the protein filler is you can try it in different products and different combinations to see what works for you, some people like protein in DIY flaxseed gel for example,

Permanently coloured hair? That increases porosity and usually increases your need for protein, it can help protect against colour damage and can help your colour take more evenly, that is what a protein filler is for - using before and/ or after dye. Coconut oil is also awesome for permanently coloured hair.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
I bought coconut oil today, and just put it on my hair for overnight treatment! Wash it out with conditioner tomorrow morning? And where can u get flaxseed (and in whst form do u need it) and how do u makr that gel? Ur advicr has helped so much!! Im also going to be trying yes to cucumbers shampoo and yhat protein filler later!

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Update. So far, i love yes to cucumber shampoo WAYY better than shea moisture moisture retention shampoo, but somethings wrong with my hair.. I tried KCCC, and i think that, and tresemme naturals is horrible foe my hair..

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