Chronically Dry Hair?

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  • 1 Post By Blueblood
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I was having a lot of good hair days earlier this year, but ever since it's gotten warmer my hair just won't retain any moisture. I've tried LOC, LCO, LOCO, overnight masks, straight oils, you name it, and my hair can't hold any of it. Regardless of what I use, my hair always ends up feeling like straw. I'm at my wit's end...any ideas and/or suggestions are welcome.

Ps: My hair properties are medium to coarse, high density, and normal to high porosity (low at the roots)


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What products do you use?
19 y/o lifelong natural {4a-O ; spongy ; porous ; coarse ; dense ; ~MBL stretched}

products {'poo: TJTTT shampoo | RO: TJTTT Condish, YTC Condish | LI/style: TJTTT Condish, KCCC, AOHSR, homemade cocoa butter cream | DC: SMABS Purification Masque, condish + ayurvedic powder(s), AOHSR | PT: condish + NPF | oils: castor oil, grapeseed oil | other treatments: probiotics, tea rinses, AVG rinse/spritz, oil rinse | methods: LOCO, LCOGO}

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I rotate between the L'Oreal EverCurl line (cowash, leave in and cream/gel), SheaMoisture (pink line shampoo and style milk, and yellow line raw shea butter masque), CJ Curl Rehab, and CJ Repair Me. I also use V05 kiwi lime squeeze shampoo if I need to clarify, HETT mousse as a styler and either coconut or jojoba oil (whichever I have on hand) as a sealer/pre-poo.


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Jojoba oil doesn't penetrate so don't bother using it as a pre-poo. It is a good sealer though like mineral oil.

Likewise coconut oil is a good pre-poo and poor sealer. You need to leave it on 12-13 hours for the best effect as a pre-poo. Other oils similar include olive oil and castor oil. You don't need to leave castor oil on as long approximately 4 hours.

If you are doing pre-poos you can co-wash them out as long as you don't go mad with the oil. This means you can do them a couple of times a week. This would really help your hair feel less dry.

Also a deep conditioning treatment once a week or once every two weeks would help as well.

I also wouldn't use the clarifying shampoo regularly. In fact I would try and use it less than once a month and find a low-poo instead to use once a week or even less if you are co-washing. A low-poo is less drying as it doesn't strip your hair of oils like a clarifying shampoo. If you are having problems with build up from stylers then you need to change them if the low-poo isn't getting them out.

Sometimes just upping your conditioning régime and changing your shampoo habits is enough to make hair less dry.
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I feel your pain. I second the suggestion of doing an over night coconut oil pre-poo. Coconut oil has been scientifically proven to penetrate the cortex, strengthen the shaft and reduce porosity. Like Bluebood said, it is most effective after long periods of time (8 + hours).

I would also ditch the Shea Moisture stuff for now. Shea butter is notorious for causing buildup. Although I haven't checked the ingredients of the L'Oreal stuff you are using, I'd stop using them as well. Most of their stuff has cones and polyquats, which can build up really badly for some.

If you can, do your coconut oil pre-poo tonight before you go to bed and shower in the morning. Use your clarifying V05 to really clean the gunk out of your hair and then use your Curl Rehab and leave it on for a good 1/2 hour. Put a shower cap on and wrap your hair (turban style) with a towel to keep your body heat in and make the treatment even more effective.

After you wet your hair in the shower and before you put shampoo on your scalp, it's also a good idea to coat your length with some cheap conditioner for even more protection from the sulfates.

Also, you can use a bit of your Curl Rehab as a leave in before your styling products.

Hope some of this is helpful to you. I do those coconut oil pre-poos about once or twice a week but my hair is extremely dry and porous. What a difference they make though!

Let us know how it goes if you decide to give it a try, k?
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Location For Dew Points: Michigan
3a ~ Fine ~ High Porosity ~ Low Density

NoPoo: JC Cleansing Cream
Clarifier: CHS Treatment Shampoo
Rinse Out: CJ Argan, CJ Rehab
Detangler: KCKT
Leave-in: CJ Beauticurls, CJ Argan, CJ Rehab
Protein: SSPRT, CJ Repair Me
DT: CJ Rehab, Coconut Oil Pre-Poos
Stylers: UFDCM, BRHG

iHerb Discount Code: SAF007


Last edited by sheilacurl; 06-26-2014 at 07:14 PM.
I just cut off 2 inches of my hair as a result of sudden dryness this summer, to the point that my hair was breaking off. I had no idea what the problem was. I was even more confused because this past winter, which was the one of the most brutally cold winters I can remember, my hair was great. As it turns out, all of the styling gels/mousses that I have successfully used in past summers completely fried my ends this summer. Go figure. Tonight I went to ULTA in search of some stylers that I have never used before. I came out with Ouidad Define & Shine Gel-Cream and the Ouidad Climate Control Gel. I tested them on one lock of hair. So far so good, and that lock of hair feels SOFT. We'll see what happens when I wash my hair tomorrow.
2C/3A, fine, higher porosity.
@sheilacurl - I wasn't able to do the full routine you recommended, but I was able to do a condensed version of it: I pre-poo'd with coconut oil last night, then this morning I cowashed, applied curl rehab, left about half of it in, and then applied my gel. Overall the result was very good: my hair is starting to feel softer, and my curls are almost 100% defined. There was some frizz, especially on the canopy layer, but if the results were this good from using curl rehab as a leave in, I can't wait to see what happens when I use it as a DT! :-D


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A really good cheap gel that never lets me down is la looks wet look gel. I use it over my leave in conditioner. I don't know if you follow the curly girl method completely, but at least ditch the silicones. After I cut out all my permed ends, I found out that the silicones in my products contributed to the dryness in my hair. Once I did that and limited the use of shampoo to once a month, my hair began to retain moisture better. I also deep condition once a week.
@sheilacurl - I wasn't able to do the full routine you recommended, but I was able to do a condensed version of it: I pre-poo'd with coconut oil last night, then this morning I cowashed, applied curl rehab, left about half of it in, and then applied my gel. Overall the result was very good: my hair is starting to feel softer, and my curls are almost 100% defined. There was some frizz, especially on the canopy layer, but if the results were this good from using curl rehab as a leave in, I can't wait to see what happens when I use it as a DT! :-D


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Originally Posted by mayasimma
That's awesome! Glad you noticed a little improvement

For canopy/surface frizz, use a very small blob of gel but first, emulsify it in between your hands, put your hands under the faucet for a quick second then smooth your hands over the frizzy parts. Works like a charm. However, use a teeny tiny blob if you are using a hard hold gel. A light to medium gel is better for that technique. For example, I use a jelly product like KCCC or UFDCM.
Location For Dew Points: Michigan
3a ~ Fine ~ High Porosity ~ Low Density

NoPoo: JC Cleansing Cream
Clarifier: CHS Treatment Shampoo
Rinse Out: CJ Argan, CJ Rehab
Detangler: KCKT
Leave-in: CJ Beauticurls, CJ Argan, CJ Rehab
Protein: SSPRT, CJ Repair Me
DT: CJ Rehab, Coconut Oil Pre-Poos
Stylers: UFDCM, BRHG

iHerb Discount Code: SAF007

I am glad you started this thread. I am having many similar problems at the moment. I was going back and forth with more water soluble cones this winter (I sometimes hit the hard stuff before I clarified), and fell off the wagon with treatments. I decided to go back to strict CG right when the dew points hit the roof. My hair goes a little wonky at first but now it is horrific at times. I have no coconut oil at the moment but I did have some Dr Bonner's LI/Cream and Organic Coconut Oil is the first ingredient. I did a good protein/moisture treatment today (my HP hair was craving it), slathered my hair in Dr. B's (along with little stronger LI that also contains CO) and it's going to stay like this until Wednesday morning. I'll add some moisture, get some OCO asap, and go from there.

Now if I can find a DC I love.

It looks like you got numerous great suggestions and I hope they start working for you quickly.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

Yes, ditch that Shea Moisture! I was using that for a while and my hair was a frizzy mess! Causes buildup for sure. I was having to clarify every 2 or 3 washes. I recommend getting a simple shampoo (like Yes To Cucumbers, I swear by that stuff until the day that I die) and just using a really good conditioner. I find I don't need oils in the summer, it's too heavy and my hair can't breathe. Oils are great for winter though. Less is more in the summer! And I also second KCCC.
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2c-3a - coarse - normal-high porosity - high density - growing out to donate

NP/LP: KMF Whenever Conditioner/ YTCucs
RO/LI: Sevi Pumpkin Seed DC / CJ Argan & Olive Oil, KCKT, YTBbs
DT: Coconut Oil + scalp massage
OIL/STYLER: SM Elixir / KCCC
COLOR: henna, amla & indigo
Gaaaahhhh....I did the whole routine today/last night (pre-poo, DT, style), and now my hair is softer, but it's also limp, undefined, and slightly crispy. Hair, why do you hate me???


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You know your properties but I am not sure you are fully working with them. Protein on coarse hair can make it dry and/ or stiff, jojoba is a wax and shea is a butter - neither penetrate and both can build up. Although coconut oil is king for penetrating some find it makes hair feel dry and stripped. Alternatives are oils rich in oleic acid (sweet almond, olive, argan).

For softness, slip and shine go back to basics: conditioners rich in the major emollients (fatty alcohols/ cationic surfactants). These are also weak humectants so help the hair hold the right amount of moisture. These would ideally be the second and third ingredients after water.

Often with LOC people overly focus on oils and butters and fail to do the most fundamental element of CG which is condition, condition, condition.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
What if you combine conditioner with coconut oil?? Would it be better as far as condition.

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2C/3A Botticelli/Corkicelli.Color Treated
M/C, Medium/High Por, Normal Elast. Medium Density
CO: Conditioner with Wheat Protein and Aloe
DET/RO/LI: GNC Avocado And Shea Butter Conditioner
GEL: Schwarzkopf Taft Maxx Power
DT: Gliss Untimate Volume+Coconut Oil

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