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Old 06-28-2013, 06:53 PM   #1
 
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Default Saved By the Stylist? Questions About Keratin Treatments

Hello curlies, I have something to confess! For the last week I've been considering going back to the creamy crack! I couldn't bare the thought of my hair going fro once I hit the beach, the frizz and the may-work may-not work today hair styling, etc. So I went in for a consultation with a hair stylist and would you believe she talked me out of it? That's a first, most stylists seem all too happy to take your cash and run with it.

But moving on, she introduced me to the benefits of Keratin treatments. Lasts up to 12 weeks, reduced frizz, up to 80% of curl texture gone: the answer to my problems and frustrations. But after researching the process I've found that it includes some heat styling and the results can actually be permanent for some women, on top of being E-X-P-E-N-S-I-V-E.

Personally I wouldn't mind a loosened hair texture, as I have 3C/+, 7" hair that is giving me a lot of grief.

I'd like to find a routine that allows me as much freedom from worrying and styling as possible but what I DON'T want to do is start a treatment process that's going to destroy my hard acquired healthy hair so PLEASE, offer any info you can on keratin treatments and your experiences with them.

I could really use the encouragement and information before I make a huge mistake and find myself back where I was before I went natural.
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:23 PM   #2
 
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Some women have extreme hair loss after keratin treatments. I thought about having it done, but I don't think it's worth the risk.
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The heat involved is arguably gentler on the hair than a relaxer. I was under the impression you need to avoid salt in products tho, at least with some brands, is it definitely suitable for the beach/ sea swimming? Are you willing to wear a swim cap? Maybe use protective styles and cute bandanas at the beach? UV light is damaging to hair so you should be doing this anyway.
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:22 PM   #4
 
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Really? Has anyone else heard about extreme hair loss or can confirm it?

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Actually I'm not a fan of bandanas or scarves but I do use products with UV protection in it, and I'm also not a fan of swimming caps. LOL they make my head look little, however I do take steps to reverse the dryness caused by salt water or chlorine from pools.

My main concern is just the outcome of Keratine treatments... it's a lot of money to spend without knowing what you're getting yourself into. Has no one had any experiences?

Thanks for the replies so far, by the by.
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My advice- don't do it! I had long 3b virgin curls (no dye, hardly ever saw a blow dryer) that in retrospect were fabulous. Now, 9 months post Brazilian Blowout, I have lost 40% of my hair, my ends are stringy and gross and I can only describe the experience with immense regret. Keep your healthy beautiful curls!!
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Really? Has anyone else heard about extreme hair loss or can confirm it?

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Actually I'm not a fan of bandanas or scarves but I do use products with UV protection in it, and I'm also not a fan of swimming caps. LOL they make my head look little, however I do take steps to reverse the dryness caused by salt water or chlorine from pools.

My main concern is just the outcome of Keratine treatments... it's a lot of money to spend without knowing what you're getting yourself into. Has no one had any experiences?

Thanks for the replies so far, by the by.
Are you concerned about breakage or shedding at the roots or both from the straightening treatment? Either are possible, there are chemicals involved that can trigger a scalp reaction in susceptible individuals, there is high heat which can cause the lengths to break too intense. There are numerous reviews all over YouTube.

Unfortunately UV protectant products for hair are next to useless, the agents are chemical not physical so break down in sunlight. It is telling that the manufacturers never list a protection factor, plus you wouldn't apply anywhere near enough to get a stated SPF anyway. Think how much sunscreen you are advised to apply to the face and neck, it's a thick layer if a product with a high concentration of sunscreen agents.

You cannot reverse the structural damage done by UV light or chlorine which is far more than simply dryness, you can only remove the residues of pool chemicals so there is no further damage. If you cannot or will not wear swim caps or bandanas you might be wise to avoid straightening treatments or heat styling, damage is cumulative so already damaged hair is at increased risk of a different type of damage. There are some really cute sunhats and bandanas these days, even if you only cover half your hair you are helping minimise the damage.
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@DEEVS
That sounds awful! Was there any pain involved during the treatment and was it performed by a professional? I ask because it sounds similar to over processed hair from relaxers, where I thought Keratin treatments were supposed to be much safer.

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Really? Go figure, I don't know what made me think I could trust what a jar says. And again, I was under the impression that Keratin treatments were far less damaging than relaxers or perms and were actually good for your hair, seeing that the hair is made up of keratin?
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Dont do it. The initial result is amazing but as it wears off hair just breaks and looks awful and never curls right again. So you get it done again and again to achieve that shiny smoothness but the subsequent treatments just cause more and more damage.
I am 2 years post my last BKT and I look at older pictures of my curls with extreme regret. I had to cut my hair to my chin and let it grow and baby it and its still not quit right but its getting there.

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I'm a little surprised no one brought up one of the main drawback of Keratin treatments: some Keratin treatments have unsafe amounts of formaldehyde in them, posing health risks, including cancer. So if you intend to use one of these treatments, check the ingredients list to make sure it truly is formaldehyde free (no more than .2% formaldehyde). If you aren't buying it out of a box but are having a stylist do your treatment, ask to see the ingredients list. Styilists aren't always truthful about the formula they're using.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:51 AM   #10
 
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I've probably inhaled more formaldehyde in the lab doing dissections, that's the least of my concerns. Formaldehyde is in everything and is a byproducts of digestion as well so its even in your blood stream. Yes breathing it in can be irritating, so is painting your house or any other fumes used for anything. Be smart, use ventilation. And its not like your breathing it in everyday. It would be an exposure every 3 months or so....

Its the permanent change to my hair texture that upset me.
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Old 07-29-2013, 02:18 PM   #11
 
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The FDA and OSHA disagree with your thoughts about safety.

Their opinions are based on scientific facts and testing.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:24 PM   #12
 
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Hello curlies, I have something to confess! For the last week I've been considering going back to the creamy crack! I couldn't bare the thought of my hair going fro once I hit the beach, the frizz and the may-work may-not work today hair styling, etc. So I went in for a consultation with a hair stylist and would you believe she talked me out of it? That's a first, most stylists seem all too happy to take your cash and run with it.

But moving on, she introduced me to the benefits of Keratin treatments. Lasts up to 12 weeks, reduced frizz, up to 80% of curl texture gone: the answer to my problems and frustrations. But after researching the process I've found that it includes some heat styling and the results can actually be permanent for some women, on top of being E-X-P-E-N-S-I-V-E.

Personally I wouldn't mind a loosened hair texture, as I have 3C/+, 7" hair that is giving me a lot of grief.

I'd like to find a routine that allows me as much freedom from worrying and styling as possible but what I DON'T want to do is start a treatment process that's going to destroy my hard acquired healthy hair so PLEASE, offer any info you can on keratin treatments and your experiences with them.

I could really use the encouragement and information before I make a huge mistake and find myself back where I was before I went natural.
A little birdie told me you were getting some conflicting info about keratin. So here's my input based on my own personal experience.

I've been using QOD original keratin products regularly since 2009--yes, that's 4 years straight--on my baby fine 3c/4a hair. I suffer no damage, no breakage, and my hair is easier to deal with than it's ever been in my life. I do struggle with maintaining curl at times. I'm about a 2b right now, but I can coax some 2c or even 3a days occasionally.

My hair is bra-strap length, and I have a thick, full lion's mane of hair. My only complaint about keratin is that when you apply it at the roots, unless you have coarse hair anyway, you lose root volume until new roots grow in. This can be remedied by not going all the way down to the roots with the keratin.

And, yes, depending upon how coarse (thick, not rough) your hair strands are, the effects can be permanent. The finer your hair, the more permanent the results. The results can be a little unpredictable for those who want to wear their hair curly. I like my hair big, curly, and a little wild, so I don't care about perfect spirals or ringlets. Not my style at all.

QOD products no longer contain formaldehyde (their new Organiq line)--except for their Kerapremium product, which is still the original formula. I'm not concerned about formaldehyde exposure, so I use the original formula.

Do a search for some of my old keratin posts--most, if not all, of your questions will be answered and concerns addressed. Oh, and I do my own applications. I buy a big bottle, and my guy applies it for me (or I do it myself, except the back).
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