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ckopyta 06-01-2009 08:17 AM

Coppola Keratin questions
 
I am getting this done within the next two weeks and have a few questions:

1) How much are you paying and what is a reasonable tip for this process? I am getting my hair highlighted and cut this weekend and that will cost me $130 and I normally give her a $30 tip. She said my keratin treatment should probably cost me $325 and take a little over 4 hours because the length and thickness of my hair. Is $60 reasonable?

2) My stylist told me I need to buy the special shampoo and conditioner specifically for the treatment? Is this true? Have any of you used regular shampoo?

3) She also told me that I have to wait 3 days before washing my hair and then I go back to her and she will blow it out no charge, is this normal? I mean it cant hurt but if I have it done on a Thursday, I can wash it by Sunday, I don't want to wait another day to have her blow it out?

4) Final question, you can't wash for 3 days, am I also understanding it correctly that you can't pull it back with any sort of hairband or clips? You just have to let it hang???

Thanks in advance for any responses...I am nervous and excited at the same time to get this done.

Carol

rams2gether 06-01-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ckopyta (Post 983021)
I am getting this done within the next two weeks and have a few questions:

1) How much are you paying and what is a reasonable tip for this process? I am getting my hair highlighted and cut this weekend and that will cost me $130 and I normally give her a $30 tip. She said my keratin treatment should probably cost me $325 and take a little over 4 hours because the length and thickness of my hair. Is $60 reasonable? I paid $400 for 4 hours and gave a $60 tip

2) My stylist told me I need to buy the special shampoo and conditioner specifically for the treatment? Is this true? Have any of you used regular shampoo? YES!! My stylist said the poo and condish offered is weird so I bought Purology Hydrating poo and condish and LOVE IT!!

3) She also told me that I have to wait 3 days before washing my hair and then I go back to her and she will blow it out no charge, is this normal? I mean it cant hurt but if I have it done on a Thursday, I can wash it by Sunday, I don't want to wait another day to have her blow it out? I had to wait 3 days but didn't have to go back for a blow out

4) Final question, you can't wash for 3 days, am I also understanding it correctly that you can't pull it back with any sort of hairband or clips? You just have to let it hang??? Yep, absolutely correct!!

Thanks in advance for any responses...I am nervous and excited at the same time to get this done.


Carol

You'll LOVE IT!

ckopyta 06-02-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rams2gether (Post 983570)
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Originally Posted by ckopyta (Post 983021)
I am getting this done within the next two weeks and have a few questions:

1) How much are you paying and what is a reasonable tip for this process? I am getting my hair highlighted and cut this weekend and that will cost me $130 and I normally give her a $30 tip. She said my keratin treatment should probably cost me $325 and take a little over 4 hours because the length and thickness of my hair. Is $60 reasonable? I paid $400 for 4 hours and gave a $60 tip

2) My stylist told me I need to buy the special shampoo and conditioner specifically for the treatment? Is this true? Have any of you used regular shampoo? YES!! My stylist said the poo and condish offered is weird so I bought Purology Hydrating poo and condish and LOVE IT!!

3) She also told me that I have to wait 3 days before washing my hair and then I go back to her and she will blow it out no charge, is this normal? I mean it cant hurt but if I have it done on a Thursday, I can wash it by Sunday, I don't want to wait another day to have her blow it out? I had to wait 3 days but didn't have to go back for a blow out

4) Final question, you can't wash for 3 days, am I also understanding it correctly that you can't pull it back with any sort of hairband or clips? You just have to let it hang??? Yep, absolutely correct!!

Thanks in advance for any responses...I am nervous and excited at the same time to get this done.


Carol

You'll LOVE IT!

Thanks for responding!!! First of all, the pics in your profile, are those both after the keratin? And how did you manage not being able to pull your hair back at all for three days? I mean, how do your wash your face and shower without putting your hair up? Honestly that is the part I am dreading the most out of this whole process, I hate having my hair hang in my face at work, UGH!

love yourself first 06-07-2009 07:43 PM

Ckopyta,

At home, you can use a shower cap to keep hair off your face without getting wet. The shower might be a bit risky though. Your bath tub might be better during the 3 day wait period.

Good luck!

naturallyfrizzy 06-12-2009 06:44 PM

I have been getting the Coppola treatment done every 2-3 months for over a year now...(I JUST had it done again today)...to answer your questions...

1. I tip 20%..the process is expensive but it is someone's time and it is also not an easy process to do...they have to blow your hair out straight with the product in it, then flat iron it (NOT easy)

2. You will need sulfate free shampoo (my salon gives me a bottle every time I get the process done)...I use any conditioner I choose though...(I only use salon conditioners though)

3. You do have to wait 3 days...part of the fee is going back for a blow out...I did it the first couple of times, but I actually prefer the way I blow out my hair, so now I skip that and do it myself...

4. You can not put ANYTHING in your hair for the 3 days...not even sunglasses on your head! I use a shower cap in the shower, but I do pull my hair back to wash my face and brush my teeth (that only takes about 3 minutes)...the minute I get up in the morning, I blow out the bed head and flat iron it to seal it back...don't wet your hair or use any product in it for the 3 days

ENJOY! This is a life changing treatment - I can't say enough wonderful things about it!

ckopyta 06-13-2009 06:40 AM

Thank you so much for responding!

You get this done every 2-3 months? I thought the more you do it the longer it would last?

I was wondering what would happen after sleeping on it, so I will have to flat iron in the AM then?

Does your salon give you the shampoo meant for the treatment or another one? I heard the one made for the treatment doesn't smell all that great?

I am getting this done on the 18th with a friend and we are so excited...not necessarily looking forward to sitting in the salon chair for 4-5 hours LOL but it will be worth it!

naturallyfrizzy 06-13-2009 08:54 AM

4-5 hours?!?! WOW! My hair is about midway down my back and it took about 2 hours...I did highlights for the first time with it yesterday so the entire process took about 3.5 hours...I can't wait to wash it and see how it came out!

The more you do it, the less often you have to do it...I am super picky about my hair and tend to do things a bit more frequently...I relax my hair as well so typically, I do that every 8 weeks then 2 weeks later do the keratin...some times have come out better than others (no idea why) so I have been able to get more time out of some of the treatments...my fear is that the keratin will wear off between relaxing cycles so even if I don't "need" it, I will do it anyway just to be safe.

There are a number of shampoos you can use as long as they are sulfate free...the salon has a few different ones...I HATED the Coppola shampoo...it smelled fine, but I didn't feel like my hair was getting clean...my personal favorite is Thermafuse (my salon carries it and gives me a bottle when I get my keratin treatment done)

Also, nobody tells me to do this and the salon does wash your hair before doing the treatment, but I always do a clarifying shampoo the morning of the treatment...I use Paul Mitchell clarifying shampoo...It could be psychological, but I feel like by getting any build up out of the way, it enables the keratin to soak in more. I don't use that shampoo often because it is not sulfate free...

You are SO going to love having this done! Honestly, it has changed my life (I know that sounds so corny, but it has)...all the things I have always hated about my hair are more or less fixed...I HATED that it took me 45+ minutes to blow out my hair...now it takes 15-20...I HATED that any time there was an OUNCE of humidity in the air or it drizzled out, my hair was a fuzzball...no more! LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it! It is expensive, but if you can afford it - worth EVERY penny! Plus, you spend less on products so in some ways, it balances out :)

naturallyfrizzy 06-13-2009 08:58 AM

Regarding sleeping on it...I tend to get REALLY bad bed hair...when the treatment is done, they will blow your hair out straight and flat iron it...it is SO straight, you will not get bed head the same way as normal, but you will end up with some mess...the minute I get up, I blow it back out straight with a big round brush (that usually fixes it)...in the rare occasions that doesn't fix it, I will flat iron over it after, but the blow dryer usually takes care of the problem...DO NOT wet your hair!!

naturallyfrizzy 06-13-2009 08:59 AM

Where are you located and where are you getting it done?

ckopyta 06-13-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by naturallyfrizzy (Post 995257)
4-5 hours?!?! WOW! My hair is about midway down my back and it took about 2 hours...I did highlights for the first time with it yesterday so the entire process took about 3.5 hours...I can't wait to wash it and see how it came out!

My stylist told me it would take that long because my hair is very thick? I had my highlights done last weekend!

The more you do it, the less often you have to do it...I am super picky about my hair and tend to do things a bit more frequently...I relax my hair as well so typically, I do that every 8 weeks then 2 weeks later do the keratin...some times have come out better than others (no idea why) so I have been able to get more time out of some of the treatments...my fear is that the keratin will wear off between relaxing cycles so even if I don't "need" it, I will do it anyway just to be safe.

I am glad that the more you do it, the longer it lasts because I have a feeling that I am going to love it so much that I will want it done again.

There are a number of shampoos you can use as long as they are sulfate free...the salon has a few different ones...I HATED the Coppola shampoo...it smelled fine, but I didn't feel like my hair was getting clean...my personal favorite is Thermafuse (my salon carries it and gives me a bottle when I get my keratin treatment done)

I will try the Coppola shampoo the first time and see how it works out with my hair.

Also, nobody tells me to do this and the salon does wash your hair before doing the treatment, but I always do a clarifying shampoo the morning of the treatment...I use Paul Mitchell clarifying shampoo...It could be psychological, but I feel like by getting any build up out of the way, it enables the keratin to soak in more. I don't use that shampoo often because it is not sulfate free...

You are SO going to love having this done! Honestly, it has changed my life (I know that sounds so corny, but it has)...all the things I have always hated about my hair are more or less fixed...I HATED that it took me 45+ minutes to blow out my hair...now it takes 15-20...I HATED that any time there was an OUNCE of humidity in the air or it drizzled out, my hair was a fuzzball...no more! LOVE, LOVE, LOVE it! It is expensive, but if you can afford it - worth EVERY penny! Plus, you spend less on products so in some ways, it balances out :)

Right now it takes me about 1/2 hour to blow out and then another 1/2 hour with the flat iron...so I basically leave it curly unless I am going somewhere special. I am so curious to see how long it will take to blow out afterwards. Do you still have to use a flat iron?

Thanks for responding

ckopyta 06-13-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by naturallyfrizzy (Post 995261)
Regarding sleeping on it...I tend to get REALLY bad bed hair...when the treatment is done, they will blow your hair out straight and flat iron it...it is SO straight, you will not get bed head the same way as normal, but you will end up with some mess...the minute I get up, I blow it back out straight with a big round brush (that usually fixes it)...in the rare occasions that doesn't fix it, I will flat iron over it after, but the blow dryer usually takes care of the problem...DO NOT wet your hair!!

OK, I was worried about sleeping on it because I tend to sleep all over the place LOL As long as there is a way to fix, I won't be so scared to fall asleep! :-)

:hello2:

ckopyta 06-13-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by naturallyfrizzy (Post 995263)
Where are you located and where are you getting it done?

I live in New Jersey and I am getting it done at professional Hair in Livingston with Kelly Guarino

:happy3:

naturallyfrizzy 06-13-2009 08:17 PM

I am in NJ too...go to Gina at Atelier (Basking Ridge)! I HIGHLY recommend her for this process...if you do go to her, tell her you got the recommendation from this board...she will know it's me and laugh (I am probably her BIGGEST pain in the ass client so a recommendation from me does not come lightly) :)

I don't flat iron at all...I am actually REALLY good at blowing out my own hair...I have had to do it all my life and my mom taught me when I was young...I could give classes on how to blow out your own hair! Once in a while when my hair desperately needs to be relaxed, I will flat iron the hair line, but that is about it and even then, it is really rare. After you have this done, you shouldn't need to flat iron and your hair will dry so much faster and less frizzy...I also STRONGLY recommend getting Moroccan Oil (both the oil as well as the styling cream)...it is a bit pricey, but also worth every penny!

One other thing too...I bought a satin pillow case...I think that really helps with bed head and breakage.

I can't wait to hear what you think! (I hope I remember to log back on!)...Good luck!!

ckopyta 06-13-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by naturallyfrizzy (Post 995823)
I am in NJ too...go to Gina at Atelier (Basking Ridge)! I HIGHLY recommend her for this process...if you do go to her, tell her you got the recommendation from this board...she will know it's me and laugh (I am probably her BIGGEST pain in the ass client so a recommendation from me does not come lightly) :)

Ha, small world!!! I could never not go to Kelly, she has been my styplist for 15 years...she would kill me LOL

I don't flat iron at all...I am actually REALLY good at blowing out my own hair...I have had to do it all my life and my mom taught me when I was young...I could give classes on how to blow out your own hair! Once in a while when my hair desperately needs to be relaxed, I will flat iron the hair line, but that is about it and even then, it is really rare. After you have this done, you shouldn't need to flat iron and your hair will dry so much faster and less frizzy...I also STRONGLY recommend getting Moroccan Oil (both the oil as well as the styling cream)...it is a bit pricey, but also worth every penny!

I have heard about that Moroccan oil, Kelly actually used it in my hair once before a blow out...I may have to get it, can you get it anywhere? Like Harmon?

One other thing too...I bought a satin pillow case...I think that really helps with bed head and breakage.

I was thinking about that as well, may have to head over to Bed, Bath & Beyond, LOL

I can't wait to hear what you think! (I hope I remember to log back on!)...Good luck!!

I am going to do the whole before and after thing...pics and all! I know before I decided I really wanted to see before and after pics so if I can help someone else out, that's great!

:pr:

naturallyfrizzy 06-14-2009 08:57 AM

I don't know if you can get Moroccan Oil at Harmon...your salon probably has it (Atelier has it)...I have a friend with her beauty license so I usually get my stuff through her at Raylon or Emiliani...

Since you are getting the Coppola done and you just had highlights and a cut done, maybe ask your stylist if she can cut you a break on the cost of Moroccan Oil...

Regarding pictures...I always blow my hair straight so the main difference for me is the drying time, the lack of frizz in the humidity and the way it feels (none of which can really be captured in pictures)...also, because it is in such good condition, it is actually growing pretty long...I don't think my hair has ever been this long and in this good of condition (hopefully I didn't just jinx myself by doing highlights!)

ckopyta 06-15-2009 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by naturallyfrizzy (Post 996102)
I don't know if you can get Moroccan Oil at Harmon...your salon probably has it (Atelier has it)...I have a friend with her beauty license so I usually get my stuff through her at Raylon or Emiliani...

I have a friend who owns a salon and can place an order with her next time she orders from Emiliani...I am going to look into getting a different shampoo as well...maybe Pureology.

Since you are getting the Coppola done and you just had highlights and a cut done, maybe ask your stylist if she can cut you a break on the cost of Moroccan Oil...

They are already giving me a $50 discount on the keratin treatment so I doubt any more discounts will be given.

Regarding pictures...I always blow my hair straight so the main difference for me is the drying time, the lack of frizz in the humidity and the way it feels (none of which can really be captured in pictures)...also, because it is in such good condition, it is actually growing pretty long...I don't think my hair has ever been this long and in this good of condition (hopefully I didn't just jinx myself by doing highlights!)

Just out of curiousity, how much do you pay for your keratin treatments? If it is cheaper then what I am paying, then I will seriously consider going to your salon the next time? Kelly is charging me $325 and that is with the $50 discount...she said because my hair is thick and will take a long time?

:pl:

ckopyta 06-17-2009 09:46 AM

Tomorrow is my big day...I am so excited to get this done!!! Not looking forward to the first three days but I'm sure it will be worth it.

Went out yesterday and bought satin pillow cases (by recommendation) and Pureology shampoo and conditioner...thank goodness you can use Bed, Bath & Beyond coupons at Harmon cause Pureology is expensive...ewph...saved $5 on each!

I have to make sure I charge my camera tonight so I can take pictures throughout the process ;-)

xswagbaggage 06-17-2009 03:41 PM

Seems like your questions are already answered but yeah. :P

1. I'm not sure...my mom paid for it for me for a birthday present :3

2. Yes, you need to buy the shampoo, but I used whatever conditioner I had laying around and it was fine.

3. Yeah, that's what my stylist did. free o charge. DONT WASH IT! it'll be uber greasy but you can mess it up bad.

4. Unfortunately, yes. You have to leave it hang. D:

I personally hated it. It caused my ends to split up real bad. I wouldn't do it again. D:< But my hair was really soft, though.

Good luck!

nae1992 06-18-2009 12:53 PM

i perm my hair all my life now i want it curly
 
do you have any product for me that will curl my hair into tight curls im sick of having my hair straight now

ckopyta 06-18-2009 08:14 PM

I had my Keratin done today...
 
So I had my Keratin done today...I get to the salon:

*They washed my hair
*Kelly blows it out
*Next she applied the Keratin in small sections
*After it is all done, she puts a plastic bag on my head and leaves me sit for 25 minutes
*After the 25 minutes she blows it out again
*Then she goes over my entire head in very small sections with the flat iron

The entire process took 4 hours from start to finish.

My hair right now is straight as a board and I cannot wait until Sunday to have it washed and blown out.

I can't figure out how to upload...it said my pic file was too big?


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