Oils and low porosity hair

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I tried using an oil to seal my hair. What a nightmare! I thought there was no way a little oil could mess my hair up so much. I ended up having to clarify, then I over compensated, and am now overconditioned. So i am currentlyl sitting with a protein treatment in my hair. Grr. I guess I learned a valuable lesson: stop expirementing if everything is working!
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3a/3b, Fine Hair, Low porosity, Medium Density
Poo- CHS Treatment Shampoo
Low-poo- Devacurl Low Poo
RO- Devacurl One Condition
Leave-In- KCKT/Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion
I tried using an oil to seal my hair. What a nightmare! I thought there was no way a little oil could mess my hair up so much. I ended up having to clarify, then I over compensated, and am now overconditioned. So i am currentlyl sitting with a protein treatment in my hair. Grr. I guess I learned a valuable lesson: stop expirementing if everything is working!
Originally Posted by guthak01
Oil that I am not rinsing out is a nightmare for my hair too, unless it's low on the list of my leave-in or styler. But that's another thread, lol. Glad you figured out it doesn't work for your hair so you don't have to encounter that problem again.

Yeah, it can be tough to stick with products/routine that work when you are reading about so many other products that sound so amazing, or think your hair, looking good, could look even better! But it's much cheaper and you have much less bad hair days if you stick with just a couple things you know work for you.

I have my stuff that works in cool, dry weather, and my stuff that works in hot, humid weather (though nothing gives me fool-proof perfect results when I go out when it's super hot, humid, high dews, and/or rainy, particularly if I am leaving the house while my hair is still pretty wet, before the cast has set).

Routine is much more important for me in spring/summer too, than it is in fall/winter. I don't need to do the whole dripping-wet hair thing in fall or winter-- can just rake, smooth, and go (I air dry) in those seasons. In spring summer, most days, whether I use conditioner only or an additional styler, I really need to do the sopping wet hair thing, which I kind of hate because it takes so long to dry and is drippy and messy But otherwise, my hair is an inconsistent mess of nicely formed curls/clumps and sections of frizz. Not pretty.

But adding oil after I've gotten out of the shower is always bad news!
Formerly Urbancurl.
Medium-high density, fine-medium, low-normal porosity, 3b/c, permanent color.
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Fall/Winter HG=Alba Botanica Soft Hold Style Cream.
Spring/Summer HG=MGA Sculpting Gel
Current fave LI=Madre Labs Made by Nature for Baby Conditioner.
Limit oils, butters, glycerin.

Last edited by diaspora; 08-19-2012 at 12:17 AM.
I was pretty shocked by how much my hair did not take to oil. Before this, I hadn't come across any ingredients that my hair reacted badly towards. However, oils do work if they are in other products, but pure oils are a nightmare.
3a/3b, Fine Hair, Low porosity, Medium Density
Poo- CHS Treatment Shampoo
Low-poo- Devacurl Low Poo
RO- Devacurl One Condition
Leave-In- KCKT/Curl Junkie Smoothing Lotion
I do use oils in my deep moisture treatments (and store bought ones will generally contain them anyway). I let my treatments sit overnight and I don't mind my hair being weighed down for that time because I just co-wash it out in the morning anyway. I don't do moisturizing treatments that often though - I'm usually doing protien.

I don't really do oils alone I always add them into a conditioner. I did just start sealing with whipped Shea butter to see how I like it and I think I like it so far.

Last edited by SpiralSpunk; 08-20-2012 at 09:44 PM.
That is all I use - Vatika oil. Vatika oil is coconut oil on steroids with all kinds of added herbs. You can find it in Indian grocery stores or order it online through Amazon.

I warm up the bottle in a pot of hot water, then put about 5-6 tablespoons in my hair concentrating on the ends. Cover it with a plastic cap and a sleep cap (to keep it from falling off), and leave it on for about 2 hours or overnight. In the morning or after the 2 hours have elapsed, I wash my hair, then apply a leave in conditioner and either flax seed gel or oil of the day (lol!), then I twist or braid my hair. Its now twice as long as it was when I started being natural in 2009.

I find it hard to believe it when people say their hair doesn't like coconut oil. What I've found is either their hair was coated with some other sealants so the coconut oil couldn't do its job and get to the cortex or their hair strands, OR they used a cheap coconut oil they bought in the hood that had other oils mixed in so it wasn't PURE VIRGIN ORGANIC coconut oil which will cost you a bit of change.

But that's okay, just pick up some Vatika oil. There are no cheap imitations. It's either Vatika or its not. And you will get to see the way it can help your hair become healthy and long without breaking.
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I really like Argan oil, but I only use a few drops at a time. I mix 4 or 5 drops with a little water and protein spray in my palm and scrunch it on dry hair, just the ends. I use it sometimes to scrunch out the crunch and sometimes just as a boost. I also massage two drops into my scalp before bed sometimes, if my roots feel extra dry. As long as I use a minuscule amount, I don't seem to have trouble with it.

Olive oil, on the other hand, just sits on my hair and never absorbs, and I have a heck of a time washing it out, even with low poo. I want to try coconut oil but haven't yet.
I really like Argan oil, but I only use a few drops at a time. I mix 4 or 5 drops with a little water and protein spray in my palm and scrunch it on dry hair, just the ends. I use it sometimes to scrunch out the crunch and sometimes just as a boost. I also massage two drops into my scalp before bed sometimes, if my roots feel extra dry. As long as I use a minuscule amount, I don't seem to have trouble with it.

Olive oil, on the other hand, just sits on my hair and never absorbs, and I have a heck of a time washing it out, even with low poo. I want to try coconut oil but haven't yet.
Originally Posted by barcemadis
This is odd... I can cowash out the heaviest amount of olive oil and coconut oil and my hair feels soft! Yet products just sit on my hair... I'm wondering if I'm even low porosity anymore
I've started experimenting with using hot oil/prepoo treatments. Oils really don't seem to do much for my hair, even when I put it on soaking wet hair. It never feels very moisturized; just oily and dry. Jojoba oil seemed to do ok, but I haven't bought any more. Coconut oil seems to work better on my skin than my hair. I tried using it on my hair overnight, but I started breaking out and got tired of waking up greasy lol. I never understood the hype around olive oil and all that, but I guess its just because of my hair, not the oils not doing their job
I've found oils to be an integral part of my regimen once I learned how to apply them correctly to my lp hair strands.

For the longest I thought my hair hated coconut oil and I stayed away from it for awhile as a result. But then I went swimming with my family this past summer and didn't have any oils other than coconut oil on hand to put in my hair before getting in the chlorinated water. So I slathered it on and pulled my hair up. I wear a swim cap too and it was an outdoor pool so it was a nice warm; sunny day. By the time I got home later that afternoon to wash the chlorine out of my hair I was thinking my hair was going to be stiff and greasy mess but the combo of the amount of time the coconut oil stayed on my hair along with the sun and body heat that was kept contained under the swim cap allowed the coconut oil to fully absorb into the strands. My hair was so soft and moisturized after I shampooed the chlorine out even before putting in the DC. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that I probably could have skipped the DC!

So I learned that my hair actually loves coconut oil I just need a combo of heat and time to allow it to absorb into the strands. Now I apply coconut oil weekly, sit under a heat cap for about 30 minutes to give it a "head start" then sleep in it overnight. I low poo the next day. My hair responds very favorably to this routine.

After I DC and low poo, I apply my RO, then LI and finally my FSG. I do seal with my oil mix (castor oil, EVOO and EO for scent) more for SOTC of the FSG but the key is to use a very, very light coating of the oil concentrating on the ends of my hair. My hair stays moisturized for multiple days with this routine. In the Spring/Summer I can go a whole 7 days without wetting again for moisture but in the fall/winter, it's sometimes necessary for me to spritz and lightly seal midweek due to the dry cold air.
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Low Porosity; Medium Strands; Dense
I tried using coconut oil for the first time today, straight out of the shower before my gel. I love how soft and shiny it is, but the curls are completely limp! Like I went from a 3a/2c to 2a/2b!! I did skip my curl enhancer because I didn't want to over product my hair, but I used extra hold gel.
Any other suggestions?
Hair Type: 2c3a/F-M/ii low porosity
CG newbie 12/2012!
Current products (and continuing to search):
-Cleanser- CurlySexyHair Curl Defining Shampoo (sulfate-free)
-RO/Cowash-SheaM Restorative Conditioner
-LI/enhancer- SheaM Curl Enhancing Smoothie
-Gel- LA sport
-2nd day- Lush R&B for frizz
My hair doesn't freak out on oils or anything, but I can't get them to absorb no matter how little I use. I doesn't seem to work against me, but it does nothing for me either. I use EVOO to prepoo (while I section my hair) but that's about it.

I recently started using my coconut oil in my meals and I can't believe I was wasting this on my hair, it's delicious!
Most oils make my hair dry. So far, I can only use them as a pre-poo or in my deep conditioner. After my leave-in, if I apply oil, I'm left with dry, crunchy hair. It's very annoying because I can't 'lock' the moisture in, so my hair is dry by the end of the day.

Maybe I should try locking with some type of butter? But I've had bad experiences with butters sitting on my hair and leaving it greasy.

Low porosity hair is a pain in the bum.
One time I used the Queen Helene placenta hot oil treatment, and it made my hair feel stiff and disgusting! I love leaving coconut oil in my hair for a few hours before I shampoo it. If I were to use it after, my hair would look too oily, but before washing works great!
How do you know if the oil you pre poo with doesn't absorb into your hair? I do believe I have low porosity hair cuz it sinks in water.
How do you know if the oil you pre poo with doesn't absorb into your hair? I do believe I have low porosity hair cuz it sinks in water.
Originally Posted by curlicious13
Typically the hair feels very greasy and the oil just sits on top of the hair. Most people seem to pre-poo with oil overnight to ensure it penetrates. I believe this only works with coconut oil, olive oil and argan oil. Those oils are supposedly the only oils that can actually moisturize and seal hair. Most oils only seal.
How do you know if the oil you pre poo with doesn't absorb into your hair? I do believe I have low porosity hair cuz it sinks in water.
Originally Posted by curlicious13
Float test is notoriously unreliable--a lot of people's hair doesn't sink regardless of porosity. Low porosity hair would float. High porosity hair would sink. If your hair sank--it's high porosity.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
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First off I want to say to the person speaking on coconut oil, you do realize everyone is different?


Secondly to the person I quoted, I agree 100%. For me, it is all about how oils are used. I use coconut oil or Vatika oil as a pre-poo or a detangler on a tough tangle day.


I use grapeseed oil as my one and only leave-in because my hair hates products and conditioners. Grapeseed oil is said to be for everyone though I never like to make black and white statements about what can work for others. I never used to be able to get light oils to work on my hair and heavy oils just weighed my hair down. I discovered that the secret is to put the light oil on damp dry hair with no other products or added water and evenly distribute with a comb or paddle brush. Yes, my hair loves brushing as long as I do not brush wet hair.


I discovered my hair gets all the moisture it needs from the warm water in the shower, the water I drink, and my diet which I eat leafy greens. Then adding more water or water based products wreaks havoc and I end up with weak, dry hair that I have to constantly moisturize. Unthought I would never see the day that I could go without moisturizing it makes me want to cry! It also helps that I use natural cleansers like honey and brown sugar rather than shampoo.






I've found oils to be an integral part of my regimen once I learned how to apply them correctly to my lp hair strands.

For the longest I thought my hair hated coconut oil and I stayed away from it for awhile as a result. But then I went swimming with my family this past summer and didn't have any oils other than coconut oil on hand to put in my hair before getting in the chlorinated water. So I slathered it on and pulled my hair up. I wear a swim cap too and it was an outdoor pool so it was a nice warm; sunny day. By the time I got home later that afternoon to wash the chlorine out of my hair I was thinking my hair was going to be stiff and greasy mess but the combo of the amount of time the coconut oil stayed on my hair along with the sun and body heat that was kept contained under the swim cap allowed the coconut oil to fully absorb into the strands. My hair was so soft and moisturized after I shampooed the chlorine out even before putting in the DC. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that I probably could have skipped the DC!

So I learned that my hair actually loves coconut oil I just need a combo of heat and time to allow it to absorb into the strands. Now I apply coconut oil weekly, sit under a heat cap for about 30 minutes to give it a "head start" then sleep in it overnight. I low poo the next day. My hair responds very favorably to this routine.

After I DC and low poo, I apply my RO, then LI and finally my FSG. I do seal with my oil mix (castor oil, EVOO and EO for scent) more for SOTC of the FSG but the key is to use a very, very light coating of the oil concentrating on the ends of my hair. My hair stays moisturized for multiple days with this routine. In the Spring/Summer I can go a whole 7 days without wetting again for moisture but in the fall/winter, it's sometimes necessary for me to spritz and lightly seal midweek due to the dry cold air.
Originally Posted by belwillcoily

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