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Hello TNB. If you wouldn't mind looking at this pic, and then answering some questions, I would appreciate it.

I was watching tutorials, playing, and had 2 different (not quite finished) looks on the eyes.



1) The eyebrows (and pardon, they were a mess): Can you recommend a brow powder that might work well? I always seem to mess up pencil.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G
Hi, Fifi, I think Mac Soba would be nice on you.

2) The purple look on the left eye (if looking @ pic): I have green eyes, love purple shadow, and know it's supposed to bring my eyes out. But when I do a purple shadows, no matter what I try, I'm never happy with the end result. It seems to close the appearance of my eye. Do you have any technique or shade suggestions? Most shades I have on hand are light to medium (lilac to med berry) purples, but I'm always willing to pick up more.

*I had not finished the brow in the purple but even after I did...
Originally Posted by Fifi.G
Hmmm...Makeup Forever Purple 92 is my go-to purple. I think it might look good on you. It's a deep purple, but it's still very vivid. And it can be applied lightly so it's not too intense. Purple Haze by Urban Decay is pretty too. It's much lighter than MUFE's Purple 92 and is more of a pinky purple. Actually, the two of them look good together. Here are a few different ways to wear them:
A) Cat's Eye - Apply a thin line of e/s to your upper lashes only, using an angled brush (damp or dry). Flick the line up at the outer corners. You could use either color for the Cat's Eye.
B) Apply a light, neutral beige eyeshadow to the inner 2/3 of your upper lids. Then smudge the Purple 92 into the outer corner. You can also then smudge in the Purple Haze (between the Purple Haze and the neutral color) for a soft transition.
C) Use a Q-tip to smudge either color into your top lashes, from the inner to outer corners. Then smudge the same color into your bottom lashes from the outer corner 1/3 to 1/2 of the way in.

Whatever style you choose, you can always apply a white or fleshtoned eyeliner pencil to your bottom waterline too. That really brightens up the eyes.

HTH!
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When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

Hi Phoenix,

I admit I don't know much about make-up (pretty much a virgin LOL) so I have a question. Are there any foundations with yellow undertones which control oil and are moisturizing?

Every foundation I've ever tried makes my face look orange; even the lightest shades. My face is awkward. I have a lot of redness along with sub. dermatitis and freckles. (I'm brunette with hazel eyes) My face is oily, dry and flakes around my nose, mouth corners and forehead; I do lots of exfoliating.

I would love to wear make-up but because I've never found a good shade, I shy away from it. I've tried Clinique, Dior, MAC, Estee Lauder and most drugstore brands if that helps narrow the field. I went into Sephora once to get assistance. The associate was rude, because I was asking a lot of questions, so I left empty handed and I have never been back.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance!


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Originally Posted by Fifi.G
Oh and another idea would be to apply liner on your top and bottom lashes except for a small space at the outer corner. Imagine this look in purple. See how the top liner is flicked upward and the bottom liner is flicked downward?
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Last edited by The New Black; 04-20-2012 at 09:30 PM.
Hi Phoenix,

I admit I don't know much about make-up (pretty much a virgin LOL) so I have a question. Are there any foundations with yellow undertones which control oil and are moisturizing?

Every foundation I've ever tried makes my face look orange; even the lightest shades. My face is awkward. I have a lot of redness along with sub. dermatitis and freckles. (I'm brunette with hazel eyes) My face is oily, dry and flakes around my nose, mouth corners and forehead; I do lots of exfoliating.

I would love to wear make-up but because I've never found a good shade, I shy away from it. I've tried Clinique, Dior, MAC, Estee Lauder and most drugstore brands if that helps narrow the field. I went into Sephora once to get assistance. The associate was rude, because I was asking a lot of questions, so I left empty handed and I have never been back.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance!


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Originally Posted by JRock
Most foundations now are neither moisturizing nor oil-control. You'd be better off moisturizing and/or controlling oil in a separate step. On the oily parts, you can apply a thin layer of Milk of Magnesia (yes, the laxative). Let it dry then apply your foundation. It works well, especially if you're fair-skinned.

But are you sure your skin is dry too? That's not uncommon, but I'm asking because you say you have dermatitis (seborrheic, right?) and that can look like dryness even when it's not. Actually, seborrhea could be an overproduction of sebum/oil and an abundance of yeast. Basically it's dandruff of the face. So your skin can flake, discolor and look irritated. But that doesn't mean it's dry. Do you use anything to treat the seborrhea? If it really is dryness, I'd apply a moisturizer under the foundation. Try Embryolisse or possibly coconut oil, argan oil or jojoba oil also.

For yellow foundations, I like Becca, Kevyn Aucoin and Valana Minerals. I've also seen good reviews of Youngblood Liquid Mineral Foundation re: their yellow tones. I'm very yellow/olive and Mac is way too orangey for me too.
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Thanks for the reply!

Yes, with the seborrhea I know it's oily, that what causes my flakes. However along with that, especially along my jaw/hair lines, I'm very dry. I actually use Nizoral (yep, the shampoo) as a facial cleanser, per my dermatologists instructions. I think it may be drying my face out. I use a good moisturizer as well as facial sunscreen daily. I also exfoliate my face everyday because of the seborrhea.

I will look into the foundations you suggested. I'm clueless about make-up in general so I had no clue where to begin. I appreciate your help.


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Originally Posted by Fifi.G
Oh and another idea would be to apply liner on your top and bottom lashes except for a small space at the outer corner. Imagine this look in purple. See how the top liner is flicked upward and the bottom liner is flicked downward?
Originally Posted by The New Black
Yes, I do (and sorry for the delay). That's another great idea. Thank you!! I'm always willing to play with makeup
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

Hi Phoenix! I've never used lip liner before, and I'm not sure how to make it look subtle.

I'd like to use the lip liner as a stain under sheer lipstick, and also to outline my lips so the lipstick won't bleed. I'd be using it for both purposes at the same time. But, I'd like it to look like I'm not wearing lip liner. Does that make sense? The liner is MAC Chicory and the lipstick is MAC Hot Tahiti (glaze finish).

Here's where it gets tricky. My lips are naturally look sort of like this, although the difference in colors isn't nearly as extreme.



My lips are naturally pigmented. But on the bottom lip, the pigmented area extends past the actual lip, as if I had surrounded the lip with a dark liner to make it look bigger. So I'm not sure whether to line the whole pigmented area, or just the actual lip.

I'd really appreciate your advice, and I hope my description made sense!
Hi Phoenix! I've never used lip liner before, and I'm not sure how to make it look subtle.

I'd like to use the lip liner as a stain under sheer lipstick, and also to outline my lips so the lipstick won't bleed. I'd be using it for both purposes at the same time. But, I'd like it to look like I'm not wearing lip liner. Does that make sense? The liner is MAC Chicory and the lipstick is MAC Hot Tahiti (glaze finish).

Here's where it gets tricky. My lips are naturally look sort of like this, although the difference in colors isn't nearly as extreme.



My lips are naturally pigmented. But on the bottom lip, the pigmented area extends past the actual lip, as if I had surrounded the lip with a dark liner to make it look bigger. So I'm not sure whether to line the whole pigmented area, or just the actual lip.

I'd really appreciate your advice, and I hope my description made sense!
Originally Posted by Eilonwy
Hi! Here's what I think would work: cover your lips (including that pigmented edge) with a dab of foundation/concealer before applying any lip colors. That will create more of a blank canvas so you can literally draw on any lip shape you want with the liner, fill in your lips with the liner too, then blend it to a consistent color using a lip brush. You can also use the brush to "blur" the edge of the liner and soften the look, so it won't look so liner-y and precise.

The foundation/concealer will also help prevent bleeding too.

Let me know how that works for you!
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Yes it did. Thank you!
Originally Posted by Fifi.G
Oh and another idea would be to apply liner on your top and bottom lashes except for a small space at the outer corner. Imagine this look in purple. See how the top liner is flicked upward and the bottom liner is flicked downward?
Originally Posted by The New Black
I don't see it! I can't discern the up and down flickings!

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Hi! I'm new to makeup. I have some eye shades and a couple lip glosses.both of those pics are of me with no makeup. My face is combination I think. By the end of the night my face is oily.
My questions are: what would be a good foundation color? Someone told me I have yellow undertones? I just want my face to look even and not oily by the time the night is over. And I don't want my face to be a different color than my neck lol!

Also what's the best way to do eye shadow when I want to use two colors? Like pink and gold for example. Everytime I try to use two my lids look overdone and under my eye brow looks weird. Also, as u might be able to tell from the ugly pic lol, my left eye is a little smaller than the other, are there any tips you have for applying makeup for that?
Thanks so much!
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Eta: scratch that, its my right eye that tends to look smaller. Esp when I smile
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Here's another one. I found a better example. Sometimes it looks like my eye is lazy! I have one eye from my mama, one from my dad lol. I can't decide which from who tho

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Who's My Hair?
3c/4a-b looking stuff lol
BC- May 16, 2010
Why I chopped: heat damage/breakage
Luv'd my permed hair I just didnt take care of it.
LUVVV my natural hair!!!
Hi! I'm new to makeup. I have some eye shades and a couple lip glosses.both of those pics are of me with no makeup. My face is combination I think. By the end of the night my face is oily.
My questions are: what would be a good foundation color? Someone told me I have yellow undertones? I just want my face to look even and not oily by the time the night is over. And I don't want my face to be a different color than my neck lol!
Originally Posted by B-Nessa11
Hi! It's hard to rec makeup colors online. But you look like you have a warm undertone. So I'd start with a shade like Nutmeg by Black Opal: Black Opal - True Color Liquid Foundation. Black Opal is sold at WalMart and drug stores, and they have good shades for WoC. Try several shades on in person.

Really, the best way to make sure your foundation looks consistent is to match your foundation color to your chest. Once you find your shade, then apply the foundation to your face, neck and upper chest. That's not practical for most people though!

Also what's the best way to do eye shadow when I want to use two colors? Like pink and gold for example. Everytime I try to use two my lids look overdone and under my eye brow looks weird. Also, as u might be able to tell from the ugly pic lol, my left eye is a little smaller than the other, are there any tips you have for applying makeup for that?
Thanks so much!
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Eta: scratch that, its my right eye that tends to look smaller. Esp when I smile
Ooohhh...pink and gold sounds pretty. Here's what I'd do: Smudge the pink on the outer two-thirds of your lids, blend the edges to soften them, apply the gold into the inner one-third of your lids. Line your lashes with dark brown or black pencil or eyeshadow, and apply mascara!

I see what you mean about having different size eyes. That's pretty common and there isn't much you can do to camouflage it with makeup...
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Thanks so much! You've done better than anybody in recs. They always say oh check them, then I go to "them" and they say oh well go to them they will have somethin to match you etc etc.
Girl I be trying not to look 12! Makeup is about the only thing that will put some adult on me lol.

Thanks again!

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Who's My Hair?
3c/4a-b looking stuff lol
BC- May 16, 2010
Why I chopped: heat damage/breakage
Luv'd my permed hair I just didnt take care of it.
LUVVV my natural hair!!!
I agree with P. about different sized eyes being very common. Even among models I've noticed it, and I certainly have an uneven face myself.

I read once that Kate Moss is one of the few people who has a perfectly proportioned face.

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I dont wear makeup. have never worn makeup. No clue about makeup.

I tend to get shiny. I have a shindig to attend in a few weeks and would like to know what can i use to prevent the shininess. I dont want to wear heavy makeup or even look like im wearing makeup. also i do tend to have break outs and I have blemishes. I wouldnt mind covering those up as well. Any suggestions pleeze!!!
I dont wear makeup. have never worn makeup. No clue about makeup.

I tend to get shiny. I have a shindig to attend in a few weeks and would like to know what can i use to prevent the shininess. I dont want to wear heavy makeup or even look like im wearing makeup. also i do tend to have break outs and I have blemishes. I wouldnt mind covering those up as well. Any suggestions pleeze!!!
Originally Posted by thelio
The easiest thing to do is to use beauty blotters. They're about $5 a pack at WalMart, Target, various drug stores. Don't waste your money on dept stores brands like Mac (which were about $13 last time I checked).

You just press (don't rub) the little sheets onto the oily parts of your face and they absorb the oil. Here's a pic:



As for your breakouts you can blend a little concealer over them to hide them. But since you have a few weeks until your event, maybe you can do an aspirin mask 1-2 a week to help heal them instead. Here's a recipe: http://viviandanger.hubpages.com/hub/famousaspirinmask
No MAS.

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Last edited by The New Black; 05-16-2012 at 12:27 PM.
I dont wear makeup. have never worn makeup. No clue about makeup.

I tend to get shiny. I have a shindig to attend in a few weeks and would like to know what can i use to prevent the shininess. I dont want to wear heavy makeup or even look like im wearing makeup. also i do tend to have break outs and I have blemishes. I wouldnt mind covering those up as well. Any suggestions pleeze!!!
Originally Posted by thelio
The easiest thing to do is to use beauty blotters. They're about $5 a pack at WalMart, Target, various drug stores. Don't waste your money on dept stores brands like Mac (which were about $13 last time I checked).

You just press (don't rub) the little sheets onto the oily parts of your face and they absorb the oil. Here's a pic:



As for your breakouts you can blend a little concealer over them to hide them. But since you have a few weeks until your event, maybe you can do an aspirin mask 1-2 a week to help heal them instead. Here's a recipe: The World Famous Aspirin Mask
Originally Posted by The New Black
Thank you thank you!! i have heard of those sheets just never knew if they worked or not.

I have just started trying asprin mask and they work awesomely, but it would flake so easily. thanks for the link, now i know to add some oil.

as for the concealer, just in case, which do you recommend. or all they all the same?
Thank you thank you!! i have heard of those sheets just never knew if they worked or not.

I have just started trying asprin mask and they work awesomely, but it would flake so easily. thanks for the link, now i know to add some oil.

as for the concealer, just in case, which do you recommend. or all they all the same?
Originally Posted by thelio
Some are definitely better than others. Some will cover different types of blemishes better, and some match natural skin tones better than others. Mac has a few different concealers that should be fine for what you want. I'd start with Studio Sculpt or Studio Finish. If you'd rather try a drug store concealer, look at Loreal True Match.
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Your Awesome!! I'll let you know how it goes!!

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