The Ask Phoenix thread

[midgi]

What do you think of the "ombre lips" trend? A la http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4l61ACz6GA&sns=em?

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[curlypearl]

Hi Phoenix, I've been reading that older women should wear foundation that is a little warmer and deeper because their skin fades. I don't actually think mine has faded yet but what do you think of this theory?

Also, some makeup salespeople say I should match my foundation to my neck. The skin on my neck seems to be different - yellower than my face for some reason. I never like to match my face to my neck and usually try to buy foundation that matches my skintone on my face. It's kind of a never-ending (fun!) search.

I love this thread. Thanks for all your advice.
ETA: Currently I'm wearing Chanel Lift Lumiere in shade #41 Soft Bisque which seems a tiny bit pinkish for me - I can never seem to find an exact match, but I like the texture and coverage of this makeup.

[redcelticcurls]

Originally Posted by midgi

What do you think of the "ombre lips" trend? A la http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4l61ACz6GA&sns=em?

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That looks like one of those things that looks great in an artistic photo, but would look weird IRL, like your lipstick was wearing off.


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[claudine19]

I googled it, and saw a few that were pretty, but I think the tendency would be to wonder if there was a fading issue going on, like rcc said.

[midgi]

I think looks awful up close and would look even more horrible from a distance lol

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[The New Black]

Originally Posted by midgi

What do you think of the "ombre lips" trend? A la TREND: OMBRÉ LIPS - YouTube?

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I love ombre/gradient lips (I love anything "artistic") but with subtler colors. The look in the video is surprisingly hard to do well and it isnt really wearable IRL. I love this version of ombre:

[The New Black]

Originally Posted by curlypearl

Hi Phoenix, I've been reading that older women should wear foundation that is a little warmer and deeper because their skin fades. I don't actually think mine has faded yet but what do you think of this theory?

I like the idea of warming up the skin to create a more radiant look. My concern is with matching the foundation to the skin. If you change your foundation shade, it wont match your skin. Id be more inclined to use a bronzer to add warmth. Or if you do want to use a darker foundation, switch to a tinted moisturizer. The coverage is sheerer and any issues with matching the skin will be less noticeable.

Also, some makeup salespeople say I should match my foundation to my neck. The skin on my neck seems to be different - yellower than my face for some reason. I never like to match my face to my neck and usually try to buy foundation that matches my skintone on my face. It's kind of a never-ending (fun!) search.

I love this thread. Thanks for all your advice.
ETA: Currently I'm wearing Chanel Lift Lumiere in shade #41 Soft Bisque which seems a tiny bit pinkish for me - I can never seem to find an exact match, but I like the texture and coverage of this makeup.

Id definitely match my neck. Otherwise you can look two-toned.

[curlypearl]

Thanks Phoenix! Two-toned - that's funny. I can be part of the "color-blocking" trend that's all the rage now.

I like the idea of a tinted moisturizer. I haven't tried that. Is there a particular brand that you recommend? I'd like one that isn't too greasy.

[claudine19]

How did the makeup artist get those lips to be so insanely glossy?

[The New Black]

Originally Posted by curlypearl

Thanks Phoenix! Two-toned - that's funny. I can be part of the "color-blocking" trend that's all the rage now.
I like the idea of a tinted moisturizer. I haven't tried that. Is there a particular brand that you recommend? I'd like one that isn't too greasy.

LOL

I usually recommend making your own. Find a foundation in the shade you want and mix it with your favorite moisturizer.

[The New Black]

Originally Posted by claudine19

How did the makeup artist get those lips to be so insanely glossy?

Photoshop, most definitely.

[claudine19]

Why do I never think of that? I thought it was MAC "lipglass" or something.

[claudine19]

Dear TNB,

I have trouble with creme blush. Ordinarily, I prefer powder, but I have one creme color I like. Is there a reason why applying it with a damp sponge to dry skin is wrong? I know others here put their creme blush on while their skin is damp, but that doesn't work for me.

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[Eilonwy]

Originally Posted by The New Black

Let me know how that works for you!

Hey, I kept remembering that I needed to get back to you on this, but I only remembered when I was away from my computer. But now I remembered while I was at my computer!

The technique was great Thanks Phoenix! (Should I call you Phoenix or TNB?) The lip liner I'd plan to use, though, wasn't up to the task. When I used it to fill in my lips, it sank into the creases, making them much darker.

The same thing happened when I used the liner to fill in bare lips. So I'd advise against using MAC Chicory lip liner to fill lips in.

[redlipstick]

Originally Posted by Eilonwy

Hey, I kept remembering that I needed to get back to you on this, but I only remembered when I was away from my computer. But now I remembered while I was at my computer!

The technique was great Thanks Phoenix! (Should I call you Phoenix or TNB?) The lip liner I'd plan to use, though, wasn't up to the task. When I used it to fill in my lips, it sank into the creases, making them much darker.

The same thing happened when I used the liner to fill in bare lips. So I'd advise against using MAC Chicory lip liner to fill lips in.

I am not Phoenix but, in the future, maybe a lip primer to prevent the sinking in?

And how do you get those neato drawings in your posts?

[iroc]

Originally Posted by claudine19

Dear TNB,

I have trouble with creme blush. Ordinarily, I prefer powder, but I have one creme color I like. Is there a reason why applying it with a damp sponge to dry skin is wrong? I know others here put their creme blush on while their skin is damp, but that doesn't work for me.

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What, exactly, is the problem you're having with it? Maybe that will help.

I love cream blush. I use it before I do any powder, or foundation, and again, dab some more on after. I also don't use foundation or powder on that part of my cheeks.

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[claudine19]

It's smeary.

[WurlyLox]

Originally Posted by JRock

Thanks for the reply!

Yes, with the seborrhea I know it's oily, that what causes my flakes. However along with that, especially along my jaw/hair lines, I'm very dry. I actually use Nizoral (yep, the shampoo) as a facial cleanser, per my dermatologists instructions. I think it may be drying my face out. I use a good moisturizer as well as facial sunscreen daily. I also exfoliate my face everyday because of the seborrhea.

I will look into the foundations you suggested. I'm clueless about make-up in general so I had no clue where to begin. I appreciate your help.

Your skin sounds just like mine, to a T - except I also have rosacea. I used to exfoliate like crazy, but all I suceeded in doing was causing lots of broken capillaries (before rosacea). Still had the SD flakiness. I tried all the dermatologists' recommendations - WesCort (worked but causes skin thinning with long-term use, which they didn't tell me - just kept right on prescribing it!), Xylogel, all sorts of stuff. I'm finally stable now using, of all things, Equate moist facial wipes (blue pkg, not green) from Wal-Mart to cleanse. They gently exfoliate a little, and then I follow with Neutrogena Alcohol-Free Toner. I regularly use a strong OTC retinol (SkinMedica Tri-Retinol ES - started with the weaker formulation and also used Neutrogena Anti-Wrinkle for years before that, so my skin has gradually gotten used to stronger and stronger retinol) for further skin turnover - no other manual exfoliation. My SD is the best - or perhaps I should say least - it's been since high school, and I'm now 55.

Oil cleansing also works well for me in the winter, but it's too much bother for me, LOL. See the oil cleansing thread if interested, though.


Love these blotters, but I've also found that Walgreen's own brand is identical and usually $1 cheaper, sometimes more.

If I blot with these, I don't have to use my SuperMatte Anti-Shine (MUAC) or powder, except to initially set my makeup. And I've found that without so much powder, my makeup color stays true, the finish stays looking fresh, and I don't get the cakeyness (sp?). What powder I do use is always talc-free as talc greatly aggravates my seborrheic dermatitis and rosacea.

Originally Posted by B-Nessa11

Here's another one. I found a better example. Sometimes it looks like my eye is lazy! I have one eye from my mama, one from my dad lol. I can't decide which from who tho

One of my eyes has always looked lazy, too!

Mine's further aggravated by the fact that when I smile, that side of mouth goes up more than other, making the already smaller eye squinch up more.

HOW have I missed this thread until now?! Off to buy MoM and to make a cardboard cutout to use when putting mascara on lower lashes - I can't see well enough any more and nearly always get it on me now

[Eilonwy]

Originally Posted by redlipstick

I am not Phoenix but, in the future, maybe a lip primer to prevent the sinking in?

And how do you get those neato drawings in your posts?

Thanks for the advice, and thank you for calling my MS Paint scribblings "neato"

I just clumsily draw the picture in Paint, upload it to an image-hosting site, and put the image's location between the image tags [im.g] and [/im.g]. (The tags shouldn't have periods in them. I just added those so the tags wouldn't work.)

[The New Black]

Originally Posted by claudine19

Dear TNB,

I have trouble with creme blush. Ordinarily, I prefer powder, but I have one creme color I like. Is there a reason why applying it with a damp sponge to dry skin is wrong? I know others here put their creme blush on while their skin is damp, but that doesn't work for me.

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Nope! You can also apply with your fingers. Whatever works for you. I also apply powdered blush over my creme blush. It intensifies the color and makes it last longer. Otherwise, the oils in my skin "eat" the creme blush by EOD.