does facial wash really matter?

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I have been using the Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser for 10+ years. I love it. It has a neutral pH, very mild, no harsh fragrances, but still rinses clean. It is perfect for acne-prone sensitive skin like mine.

Other facial cleansers don't even compare. I once used my friend's clean & clear when I was visiting. My skin was so dry and tight afterwards, I felt like I had washed my face with dish detergent.
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i'm thinking once i get through the various cleansers in my stash that i need to just use one cleanser, maybe two due to seasonal/climate changes and just stick with that.
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^^RCW, African black soap (the real kind--which is not black but brrown) is just as gentle as castile soap. (both pH 8-9) You might try that and see if you like it.
Originally Posted by coilynapp
No way would i use that on my face...the pH is too high and most soaps are waxy and clog pores. The castille cleanser that PSF used to make had its pH lowered.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
I went to a dermatologist because I have seborreic dermatitis and she said
to use Dove sensitive skin.

RWC, I use some of the products you recommend and my skin never changes. It's always a red mess. The only thing I was able to get out of my dermatologist visit was not to use moisturizer because what I thought was dry/peeling skin, was really an overabundance of it.
So now I exfoliate with neutrogena once in a while and the peeling skin goes away.
I wonder if the clarisonic would work for me. I guess that is like exfoliation?
Right now I am still using the PSF that got discontinued.
I have the worst skin ever.
What about Dianna Yvonne? The perlescent cleanser has the right ph.
Violets- I think the clarisonic would probably work for you. It's great for problem skin. I have dermatitis on the left side of my face and the clarisonic made that go away. My skin is also brighter so it must be exfoliating.
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Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
I've been using Youthful Glow Deep Refining Face Wash with great results. The ph is 3.4-3.75 & the ingredients are as follows:NCI: ORG Aloe barbadensis (Aloe Vera) Leaf Juice, EcoCert Decyl Glucoside (and) EcoCert Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Vegetable Glycerin (and) ORGCamellia sinensis (Green Tea) Leaf Extract, Glycolic Acid (Sugar) Fermentation, Populous tremoloides (Aspen) Bark Extract, Vaccinium myrtillus (Billbery) Extract, Panthenol (ProVitamin B5), Lactic Acid (Corn) Fermentation Saccharum officinarum (Sugar Cane) Extract, (Xanthan) Gum, Citrus limonum (Lemon) Extract, Citrus aurantium var.Dulcis (Sweet Orange) Fruit Extract, Xanthan Gum, Acer saccharum (Sugar Maple) Extract. This works wonderfully with my Mia or if I add something to make it a scrub. I use other products from this company as well (glycolic toner, a serum, their terrific Acne Solutions Anti Aging Cream, and Vital Night Repair. My skin is doing better than it has in a long time...
I have used authentic african black soap. It clogs my pores. I'm a clogger though. I have to be much more careful than most people. I've worn out 2 Clarisonics. Clarisonic worked ok for me, but i think the lack of ability to ever truly clean the brush well is a problem, so I've moved on to skin spatulas to exfoliate and keep pores clear.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Never heard of skin spatulas! Can you please post a link so I can check them out? I used to use my Clarisonic weekly for a deeper cleaning/exfo type of treatment, but I stopped months ago and my skin has improved. So I'm curious about alternatives!
Location: Texas
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CO wash: A-O GPB LYY, Salon Care Honey Almond, Devacurl OC, Acure Argan Stem Cell+Argan Oil, Mill Creek Botanicals Keratin Repair
Leave-ins: BWC, KCKT, cno overnight
Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG
DT: Kiehl's Olive Fruit Oil Deeply Repairative Hair Pak, Curl Junkie Deep Fix, Briogeo Don't Despair Repair!
I have these two. The first is a cordless unit that uses "ultrasound technology". The second is a true ultrasound machine. They both gently vibrate junk out of the pores and exfoliate the skin. The second, being a semi-pro machine, obviously works better, but the cordless unit does a pretty good job too. They run about $250 and $600, respectively, but there are deals out there to be had if you look.

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Very interesting! I haven't seen anything like those before. Thanks for taking the time to post the info and pics; I may look into the cheaper one down the road if my skin doesn't improve.
Location: Texas
Type: 3b/3c (i), below shoulder length.
CO wash: A-O GPB LYY, Salon Care Honey Almond, Devacurl OC, Acure Argan Stem Cell+Argan Oil, Mill Creek Botanicals Keratin Repair
Leave-ins: BWC, KCKT, cno overnight
Styling: BRHG, MGA Sculpting Gel, A-O Mandarin Magic Gel, LOTD AVG, LALSG
DT: Kiehl's Olive Fruit Oil Deeply Repairative Hair Pak, Curl Junkie Deep Fix, Briogeo Don't Despair Repair!
ok, my skin broke out a bit after i used the black soap. it could be the extras added. either way, i'll go back to my other washes and not use the black soap.

i have the mario badescu glycolic cleanser i think i'll stick with it too. seems to work for me.
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Very interesting! I haven't seen anything like those before. Thanks for taking the time to post the info and pics; I may look into the cheaper one down the road if my skin doesn't improve.
Originally Posted by Spiralli
i got the cordless one at RCW recommendation. it really works. I love it and it was worth the bucks. my skin may not be perfect but it has never been this clear even when i was using proactiv. i dont use any cleansers, just the ocm. i have used real afircan black soap. my skin was super soft and seemed cleaner. but after about a month or so of using it i broke out horribly. after a week or two of stop using it, my skin slower begin to clear up. i will use black soap on my hair, but nothing else. NO WAY!
Even though face wash only stays in contact with skin for a short while ingredients do matter. Anything that cause irritation or dries out the skin is unhealthy. I stay away from pricey cleansers but I lean towards more natural formulations that avoid sulfates just like I do with my hair.
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I have these two. The first is a cordless unit that uses "ultrasound technology". The second is a true ultrasound machine. They both gently vibrate junk out of the pores and exfoliate the skin. The second, being a semi-pro machine, obviously works better, but the cordless unit does a pretty good job too. They run about $250 and $600, respectively, but there are deals out there to be had if you look.

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Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
How often do you use this? How do you wash your face now?
I have used authentic african black soap. It clogs my pores. I'm a clogger though. I have to be much more careful than most people. I've worn out 2 Clarisonics. Clarisonic worked ok for me, but i think the lack of ability to ever truly clean the brush well is a problem, so I've moved on to skin spatulas to exfoliate and keep pores clear.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Never heard of skin spatulas! Can you please post a link so I can check them out? I used to use my Clarisonic weekly for a deeper cleaning/exfo type of treatment, but I stopped months ago and my skin has improved. So I'm curious about alternatives!
Originally Posted by Spiralli

Why did you stop using the Clarisonic? I am not sure if you are recommending it or not.
I have these two. The first is a cordless unit that uses "ultrasound technology". The second is a true ultrasound machine. They both gently vibrate junk out of the pores and exfoliate the skin. The second, being a semi-pro machine, obviously works better, but the cordless unit does a pretty good job too. They run about $250 and $600, respectively, but there are deals out there to be had if you look.

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Bellaire Industry SkinSpatula

Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
How often do you use this? How do you wash your face now?
Originally Posted by violets

I wash my face at night with the cleanser from acne.org. It seems to work well to remove my makeup, but it's pretty gentle. I use the second machine about 3 times a week to clean my pores and exfoliate. I started with the cordless, but once I got the semi-pro machine, I found I it does a better job, so now I just use the cordless unit when I travel.
It absolutely matters to me because I have sensitivities. For most of my life I have only been able to use a select few products without reaction.

I am having great success with ilike. It is a natural Hungarian spa line, and I have to order it. The rose cleansing milk is fantastic, for me, but the lemon cleansing milk is my HG. It is on the expensive side, but highly concentrated so I don't have to use much. It does last awhile so the cost evens out.

Besides, it's either that or Noxzema :-/ Aside from sunburns, that stopped working well for me at 16.
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Last edited by Fifi.G; 01-24-2013 at 12:32 PM.
I have been using the Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser for 10+ years. I love it. It has a neutral pH, very mild, no harsh fragrances, but still rinses clean. It is perfect for acne-prone sensitive skin like mine.

Other facial cleansers don't even compare. I once used my friend's clean & clear when I was visiting. My skin was so dry and tight afterwards, I felt like I had washed my face with dish detergent.
Originally Posted by Layali
Clean and clear also sorta dries me out. But cetaphil and cerave don't seem to clean my skin well enough. I've been using an aveeno one for sensitive skin and it's doing okay. No complaints.
I have been using the Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser for 10+ years. I love it. It has a neutral pH, very mild, no harsh fragrances, but still rinses clean. It is perfect for acne-prone sensitive skin like mine.

Other facial cleansers don't even compare. I once used my friend's clean & clear when I was visiting. My skin was so dry and tight afterwards, I felt like I had washed my face with dish detergent.
Originally Posted by Layali
Love, love, LOVE cetaphil "gentle cleanser" and the "moisturizing lotion" for my face! I also tone with Dickinson's Witch Hazel. I was going to switch oner to OCM, but I don't wanna fix what's broken...


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NoP: As I Am CC
RO: Suave Tropical Coconut/VO5 Shea Cashmere
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LowP: Kinky Curly Come Clean (50% EVOO)
NoP: As I Am CC
RO: Suave Coconut, VO5 Shea Cashmere
LI: KCKT or CJBCLI or HETT/HENOYF (w/ 8 drops GSO)


"To much is given, much is expected"
PSF has stopped selling the foaming cleanser that displaced the GCC. It seems a good time to try to convince them to bring back the GCC.

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