Teach me how to use eyeliner!

I've been practicing with pencil eyeliners and always end up looking like I've been punched in the eyes. I like how eyeliner looks on the lower waterline (why does that look good?) and I can do that but I just muck it up on my upper eyelid. I'm OK at using powder and a brush but I admit I need a bit more practice and I have to take my time. I was hoping pencils would be quicker.

Which is easier, pencil or liquid?

Any cheap recommendations I can get to practice with?
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a lot of people find liquid easier to use - i'm a pencil gal myself because they are sooooo much cheaper. try Wet 'n Wild or Bonne Bell for practice ones. mine are all from MAC or Bonne Bell.

eyeliner is so much a practice makes perfect technique.

lots of good instruction can be found at ehow.com including this video:

http://www.ehow.com/video_157_apply-eyeliner.html
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Thanks for the link Rou, I will watch it later! I'm going to get a liquid liner tomorrow and practice! Can liquidliner go on the waterline?

How can I stop my eyelid from fluttering? I hold them as still as possible but it still 'jumps' when I try to do anything to it. It's very annoying. This is probably adding to looking like I've been punched in the face.
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Last edited by curlylaura; 05-04-2008 at 11:53 AM.
a lot of people put liquids on the waterline; i especially hear of MAC devotees using Fluidline (more a gel that is applied with an angle brush) for that.

i do stretch my eyelid so it won't flutter. i realize that it's not the best thing to do - especially at my age - but i LOVE my eye liner!

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I think liquid eyeliners are way too difficult to apply, plus the line is too defined.

Use a damp angled brush like this and dark eyeshadow. I find it easier and the result, much better.
did you look on youtube? there are TONS on amateur makeup tutorials, and some of the girls are actually quite good.
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I also use a damp stiff angled brush and a powder pigment to do eyeliner. It's much softer than the hard line liquid eyeliners give.
a lot of people put liquids on the waterline; i especially hear of MAC devotees using Fluidline (more a gel that is applied with an angle brush) for that.

i do stretch my eyelid so it won't flutter. i realize that it's not the best thing to do - especially at my age - but i LOVE my eye liner!

Originally Posted by rouquinne
Fluidline is awesome, and I've been applying it to my waterline for some time with no problems. I highly recommend using the small angle brush, its so much easier than than the thin brush.

I stretch my eyelid too, but I'm trying to break that habit. Its hard though.
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I use all three methods [pencil, liquid and wet eyeshadow] depending on what look I want that day or how much time I have. I can't manage to do the wet eyeliner in one stroke though, I always have to apply it bit by bit.
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did you look on youtube? there are TONS on amateur makeup tutorials, and some of the girls are actually quite good.
Originally Posted by midgi
That's what I was going to suggest. I watch some tutorials over and over before I attempt the look.
I'm off to YouTube! Thanks for the advice. I bought a liquid eyeliner today that's more like a felt-tip pen so I'll have a go with that. I will buy an angled eyeliner, I have one of those flat ones right now, brush this week too and practice.

Because of the shape of my eyes when I use eyeliner at the moment I end up looking like this --->

How can I stop that happening? Is there a trick I can practice?

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Last edited by curlylaura; 05-05-2008 at 10:54 AM. Reason: Added link
there's lots of tutorials on Specktra - i should've mentioned that.

i'm not a fan of liquid - i use pencils and powder and my angle brush.

laura, try just putting liner on the outside third of your lid and see what look you get!
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Well my felt-tip pen is crappy, I'm glad it only cost me 3.

I will have a go with putting it on the outside 1/3. I'm off to get an angled eyeliner brush today and some dark brown/black powder to play with.
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I have not read the whole thread, so forgive me if what I say is repeated.

For eyeliner, what I like to do is gently pull the corner of my eye (in line with the end of my eyebrow) and slightly look down in a mirror. Since I am right handed, I like to start with my left tear duct and line outward. When I use liquid, I do it in sections. With pencil, I do little strokes as there is more room for error. When I reach the end of my eyelid, I tend to wing the eyeliner up so that it does not close off my almond eyes.

Some tips:
1. Make sure you get as close to the lash line as possible. Spaces do not look too good.

2. If you want a full eyelash effect, lightly place your finger on your eyelashes and pull up, so that your lashes are flush with your brow bone. Line UNDERNEATH the lashes. *Caution* - be careful if you wear contacts and find a product that is suitable for sensitive eyes. Lining your waterline is not recommended, but I like using MAC technakohl in Graphic Black as my lashes are really, really dark.

3. As I stated in another thread, if I line my bottom lashes with eyeshadow, I always use Urban Decay Primer Potion as it really sets the eyeshadow.

4. I dont wear mascara on my bottom lashes. It always makes me look like a raccoon!

5. If your liner is pulling on your lid, you may want to try blasting it with a hairdryer for a tiny bit to soften the tip.

Definitely experiment. When you have a day off go crazy and experiment with bold and thin lines! I found that thin lines look best on me, because I have a deep crease.

Have fun!
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Last edited by Sadecki; 05-09-2008 at 02:22 AM. Reason: Deliriously Tired
Curlylaura - I use pencil or apply eyeshadow with a brush for eyeliner. I draw a very faint line on the lower lashline, on the outer two thirds. I then stand back to see how it looks. Eyeliner (I find) looks stronger when you aren't standing right up close against the mirror. I then just keep on putting slightly stronger lines, checking again and again. You don't even need to go all the way to the corner of the eye - just make sure the line is blended so it doesn't look odd.

For the eyelid, I put the eyeliner on the outer two thirds again. I generally put it a bit thicker towards the outer corners.
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Thanks everyone. I'm going to practice tomorrow.
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Try looking up a few YouTube videos, on how to apply eyeliner, I know I had a problem doing the cateye look with black eyeliner and those video's really helped me.
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I have been using eyeliner since grade school, so maybe I can help.

I prefer pencil for day. I gently pull the outer corner of my eye with my ring finger. My gramma does this and she has like no wrinkles. Anyway, I kinda raise my eybrows as I apply the liner almost in dashes. I go back and kinda connect the dots. I also have round eyes, so I almost do a cateye. Just a little though, unless that's the look you're trying to achieve. Then, because of my skin type, I dust with translucent powder and apply eyeshadow.

I do almost the same thing for liquid. I don't do the powder because the liquid liner doesn't run. I keep a Q-tip dipped in eye makeup remover handy because I almost always mess up in one way or another. Hope this helps!

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