I'm an OCM victim

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Wild hair, unfortunately OCM did ruin my skin by changing it's type and sensitivities, that's what my derm said. That's so sad because I could kill to get the skin I had a year ago.

Mrspoppers, I'm really picky about my cosmetics. I look up reviews, ingredients, colours and everything before going to the stores. My skin actually likes petroleum jelly/mineral oil in tiny amounts, however I'm not using it right now due to humid weather. I'm quite sure that my foundation, sunscreen and powder don't make my skin break-out, because I have done tests for each one(yes, I was obsessed).

I think my skin likes that neutrogena bar, it feels smoother and I didn't get a new pimple for 3 days...like I said, my skin doesn't like "gentle" cleansers
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Wild hair, unfortunately OCM did ruin my skin by changing it's type and sensitivities, that's what my derm said. That's so sad because I could kill to get the skin I had a year ago.
Originally Posted by Domino

My apologies to your derm, but that is complete and utter nonsense.

You did OCM for three weeks. Even if you did it for three years, it would not permanently alter your skin [save any scarring you might have had from the breakouts].

As I said earlier, your skin will change throughout your life. This will happen no matter your routine. You're 18, right? Yeah, your skin changed. Of course it did, you're 18! That's exactly what skin does at 18. And 35. And 48. Etc.

And you might want to find yourself a new derm. He or she sounds like an idiot. I have had several idiotic derms in my life — one was convinced I would have perfectly clear skin if I simply washed it with Dial soap every day. Because it's "antibiotic," don't you know. I am completely serious, that is what he said. Even worse? I was young and naive and I followed his stupid recommendation and I had dry, tight skin that overproduced oil to compensate and then broke out anyway. Fun!

Just because it says "Dr." before their name does not mean they are particularly smart people. There's book smart and then there's life smart. If they don't know how to apply all their book learning, then they should probably be off doing research somewhere rather than treating patients.

When I was your age, I believed in derms too. Then I learned they really don't know what they're talking about, most of the time.

So I took it upon myself to figure out my skin on my own. Your job is to find a routine that works with the skin you have now, then adjust your routine accordingly when [not if] your skin changes as you get older.

Some really good reading, when you're ready to get serious about skin care. Learn what really causes acne, how long it takes for a pimple to form [hint: it's longer than 3 days], and what to do about it all.

Listen, I'm very sorry you're having skin troubles. They suck. But you can work it out, lots of us have.

GL!
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wild~hair, great post and i love your new avatar!!
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Domino, derms really do vary wildly in skill. I have several unnecessary scars due to the over-zealous removal of harmless moles, thanks to a lousy dermatologist.

Sometimes a second opinion makes all the difference.

HTH
wild~hair, great post and i love your new avatar!!
Originally Posted by luvmylocs
Thanks! And yours as well I totally recognize that photo!
Noxzema *shudder*

There's always someone who says it's the best thing ever and I don't doubt it is for them but for most it is evil!
Originally Posted by wild~hair
I have a friend who was permanently disfigured when she was a child because she got into her mom's noxema. All that mentholatum and lord knows what else burned the skin around her mouth and fused her lips at the side.
wild~hair, great post and i love your new avatar!!
Originally Posted by luvmylocs
Love the avatar, too, and I totally agree with everything you had to say! I've had some doozy dermatologists, too. They are largely clueless, especially the men - at least in my experience.
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I have a friend who was permanently disfigured when she was a child because she got into her mom's noxema. All that mentholatum and lord knows what else burned the skin around her mouth and fused her lips at the side.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Gah!

I've had some doozy dermatologists, too. They are largely clueless, especially the men - at least in my experience.
Originally Posted by auntnett
Yes, all mine were men too and to a person, they were all extremely, uh, unhelpful [to put it diplomatically].

The derms that I have come across that know what they are doing are women, and they introduce skin care lines that actually work.
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The derm who scarred me is a woman, and the best one I've ever had the privilege of visiting is a man.

Just saying, for the sake of accuracy.

Noxzema scarring! How....horrible!

I hated that stuff.
I've always heard those urban legends of Noxzema disfiguring. I've never bought it. It always seems to be someones friend, or cousins friend, friend of a friend.

Just seems to me that a product wouldn't be around for 80 years if it was so dangerous.

But I don't own the company, so I don't care. I love it!
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BW, it doesn't leave a weird glaze on your skin?

I loved scooping my fingers into a fresh jar, but hated the way it made my skin look.
The derm who scarred me is a woman, and the best one I've ever had the privilege of visiting is a man.

Just saying, for the sake of accuracy.
Originally Posted by ninja dog
And another stereotype, debunked!
BW, it doesn't leave a weird glaze on your skin?

I loved scooping my fingers into a fresh jar, but hated the way it made my skin look.
Originally Posted by ninja dog


As opposed to being squeaky clean? Sure. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the main idea of this board based on people who use conditioner to clean their hair?

I know the film that you're talking about. I guess I just got over it. It doesn't dry my skin out and it makes it look great!
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bw:

No, it wasn't a clean thing. Just......it left behind bits of white stuff in my pores. Which was icky.

w~h:

the male derm I referred to is amazing. You don't even have to mention a problem; he notices first. And, he remembered me from a visit I made more than 20 years ago. Best doctor I've ever had.

But, the female derm not only gave me a ring I admired (go figure, and she was wearing it at the time), but she was Russian, and made great malapropisms, like, "For a patient to look good, the doctor must suffer!"
I agree that your skin just changed due to your age, Domino. And that you should check your other products as well.

I went to a few stupid (male) dermatologists that just pushed pills and gave me horrible cleansers to try. I finally found one (also male) that helped me deal with and mostly cure my acne.

I have been using a lavender soap bar (like kathymack's) on my face and body for about 8 months now. It has organic palm, olive, rice bran, organic coconut and shea butter but does not break me out.

Acne sucks. good luck!

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I don't know if this will help, but make sure your rinse your face thorougly..

When i do the OCM 3 times a week , i rinse my face a few times apply the olive oil, steam my face, then rinse off..use a gentle cleanser if i put on too much olive oil and pat dry..this worked for me..my sister uses this one soap when she does the ocm i will ask her what soap she uses and her skin cleared up a lot..

i hope the neutrogena works for you..
I agree you have to look at *everything* you are putting on your face. Better yet, stop doing ALL of it. Go gentle on your skin, using as little as possible on it. Maybe finding something that agrees with your skin to cleanse/remove makeup and be done with it.

My skin is pretty sensitive to specific ingredients, so I feel your pain. Right now what works for me is removing makeup with sesame oil, cleansing with the PSF Castile Cleanser, toning with witch hazel, and moisturizing with Jojoba Cream.

Has your diet changed?
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I have been thinking about going back to using Pond's cold cream and plain cold water..my grandmother had flawless skin unti the day she died..even while at the nursing home she would cleanse her face with this..my aunt just told me her secret as well..so when i use up my stash i will buy this.
I've always heard those urban legends of Noxzema disfiguring. I've never bought it. It always seems to be someones friend, or cousins friend, friend of a friend.

Just seems to me that a product wouldn't be around for 80 years if it was so dangerous.

But I don't own the company, so I don't care. I love it!
Originally Posted by babywavy
Being as it is my friend that I still know and I can still the scarring, I don't personally see it as an urban legend. Of course, you don't know me from Adam, so I understand you thinking I'm making it up. If it works for you, you should continue to use it. Why stop?
I have been thinking about going back to using Pond's cold cream and plain cold water..my grandmother had flawless skin unti the day she died..even while at the nursing home she would cleanse her face with this..my aunt just told me her secret as well..so when i use up my stash i will buy this.
Originally Posted by pandoraspoxx


I love good old fashioned Ponds cold cream.

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