MUAC Toner and Aubrey Face Wash update

Just thought I would pop in and update. It is soo much better. Still not perfect but so much better than it was and that makes me feel better. I have not used the aubrey face wash at all-other than that one time. I am still using the Pomega5-the teen version and the MUAC toner 2x a day. I have thrown in peter thomas roth pumpkin enzyme peel a couple of times as well. I have done the MUAC 40% lactic acid peel a couple of times as well.

I still have my 1st derm appt in October. So we will shall see what happens at that as well.
Originally Posted by xcptnl
wow...I'm so happy for you! My face literally looks hideous. If I didn't have to go to work everyday, I'd hide under a rock. It has NEVER looked so bad. I went to the doc and she put me on metronidazole, but I think the cream's too heavy for me - I'm going to ask her for the higher strength gel version that you only use once a day - and I don't know what she really thinks I have (I need to ask her) - acne? rosacea? perioral dermatitis? - I'm not sure. They're all in the running. I have some lesions that look like regular pimples; some are tiny pustules; and I also have a gazillion little tiny bumps that just look rashlike. My retin-A has ceased to help. I started using my differin again last night and I'm thinking about giving your toner a try. It's called Acne Pore Minimizer w/Sepicontrol A5? Sorry for the "woe is me" post, but I don't think I've ever felt so awful. OK, enough of that - no more feeling sorry for myself!
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
Awww VTmom-that stinks!! And I can totally relate!

The toner is the one you mentioned and I would really recommend it. Between that and just using the green tea soap MUAC sent with the lactic acid peel I ordered from them I could see results. I used that soap until I tracked down the pomega5 soap. But I would have continued to use that soap if I was not determined to try the pomega5.

I did pick up some mario badescu drying cream the last time I was in Ulta. I had the buffering lotion in my arsenol already. I have been using the drying cream after the MUAC toner at night.

I so understand your frustration-feel free to vent away anytime you want!!
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
Awww VTmom-that stinks!! And I can totally relate!

The toner is the one you mentioned and I would really recommend it. Between that and just using the green tea soap MUAC sent with the lactic acid peel I ordered from them I could see results. I used that soap until I tracked down the pomega5 soap. But I would have continued to use that soap if I was not determined to try the pomega5.

I did pick up some mario badescu drying cream the last time I was in Ulta. I had the buffering lotion in my arsenol already. I have been using the drying cream after the MUAC toner at night.

I so understand your frustration-feel free to vent away anytime you want!!
Originally Posted by xcptnl

Me, too. Since using it, I literally never have to use my Metro Gel anymore.

Still haven't gotten the Pomega5 yet. I'll make a trip for it once I've used up my Boot's cleanser, which I'm actually pretty happy with.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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Me, too. Since using it, I literally never have to use my Metro Gel anymore.
Originally Posted by auntnett
What symptoms did you have that caused the doc to put you on metro gel? my MD gave me the metro cream, but I don't like it and was thinking of asking her for the gel.

I ordered the toner from MUAC last night. It was shipped today, so I will probably get it tomorrow or wednesday...their shipping is really fast and I'm not too far away from where they're located.
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
I have roseacea and was having a particularly bad spell with pustules and papules. I couldn't honestly tell it did a whole lot - seabuckthorn seed oil was what finally did the trick. I haven't needed it either in quite some time - well before I started using the MUAC toner. Since using it, the roseacea, adult acne, and even my seborrheic dermatitis have all calmed down. I'll be interested to see if the latter's flaking, etc. acts up in colder weather.

It rarely takes more than 2 days for me to receive MUAC orders, and I'm not near them. They just have really excellent customer service all around.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
auntnett,
do/did you take the seabuckthorn oil orally or topically? I got my toner tuesday (i love their quick shipping) and have been using it all week. So far, I'm liking it...thanks to you and xcptnl for the rec! My face is improving some...not quite as scary looking...but I still have a ways to go.
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
I am not auntnett but I was asking her about the seabuckthorn too. I believe she used the oil on her face. That is why I bought the Aubrey face wash - sea buckthorn & cucumber with Ester C. I have used it 1-2 times but I was concerned that is noted it is for combo-dry skin. It felt almost too moisturizing for me but like I said I have used 1-2 times. I have used it with my Pretika since that could be a bit irritating to my sensitive skin so I figured a more moisturizing face wash could offset that.

I am not much help am I? I am still interesting in trying the oil to see if I could clear up my cheeks even more.

I have seen much improvement but it's weird - the areas that were bad prior have faded but around my period they get a bit redder and more irritated looking but not like they were before. But you can definitely still see the spots where it was bad. And they are still red looking.

I hope the toner continues to help you!!!
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~

Last edited by xcptnl; 10-04-2009 at 03:45 PM.
Yes, I used oil - didn't know you could ingest it. I also had some shampoo since with the really bad breakout I had pustules and papules up in my hair, too. Those went away more quickly than the ones on my face, and I didn't at all like what it did to my hair, so I immediately discontinued it. I only used the oil during accute breakouts - I don't use it all the time because it is quite oily and I already have oily skin. It did the trick on the rosacea bumps, though.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
I wanted to add that I have decided to use the Aubrey face wash at night with the Pretika. I used it last night and the redness on my 'old' spots subsided a lot. I had noted the same thing when I used it last week. And I was reading some of the reviews on the Aubrey site and there were quite a few comments from readers that had roseaca. I will keep an eye on it to see how it goes. I do get dryness on my cheeks but I am still not sure that I would consider my face dry other than those areas that is why always called it combo - but I meant dry/oily where this face wash indicates combo-dry.

I will update how it goes.
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
Now, what is Pretika??
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
Now, what is Pretika??
Originally Posted by auntnett
It's the cheaper version of the clarisonic face brush.
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
Oh, OK, not for me, then. Thanks.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
update, if anyone's interested my face really has improved quite a bit from its "hideous" state, thank the Lord. all the pustules/lesions/rashiness, etc. have healed. I just hope that too much damage was not done. I'm using the MUAC toner (still liking this), metrogel (I got my doc to change my rx from the cream to the gel), spot treating only w/DY's 2% BHA, and am sometimes spot treating w/BP over the metrogel. After I put my makeup on in the a.m., I almost look decent!

xcptnl -- when is your derm appt.?
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
Congrats, VTmom!
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
Fantastic VTmom. My face has cleared up a lot but like I posted earlier I still have the redness and those areas are very quick to flare up.

My derm appt is in 2 weeks.
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
Thanks! Don't misunderstand--I'm not looking great or anything, but at least I'm not embarrassed to leave the house...I work in an elementary school and I was petrified one of the little munchkins was going to ask, "what's wrong with your face?"...out of the mouths of babes!...but thankfully that didn't happen. If I could just stay clear for an extended period of time, I think the texture and clarity of my skin would improve. Here's to hoping!
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
I came across this and thought some of you with rosacea might find it helpful. It's from Paula Begoun's website Hope it helps....

What is Rosacea? What are the symptoms?

Rosacea is a stubborn, chronic, and pervasive skin disorder that is not only frustrating but extremely tricky to treat. It is thought to afflict an estimated 14 million Americans alone, with women being affected at a slightly greater rate than men. Despite its prevalence, rosacea is often misdiagnosed by physicians and even dermatologists, and most people don’t even know the disorder exists. According to a survey commissioned by the National Rosacea Society, 78% of respondents did not know what rosacea was and, it follows, how to identify it.

In simple terms, rosacea is a very distinctive skin problem of the face identified at first by a characteristic pattern of redness which often appears in a butterfly pattern over the nose and cheeks. In the beginning this "blushing" can be intermittent, but eventually, it almost always increases in severity, sensitivity, and can be accompanied by rashes, enlarged pores, blemishes, and noticeable surfaced capillaries.

If you notice any extreme facial redness that comes on suddenly (and is not from overexposure to sun or wind) and does not dissipate within a short period of time you may want to consider consulting a dermatologist. Other warning signs include a constellation of broken capillaries (often in a webbed pattern on the cheeks) and bumps or blemishes on the skin that respond minimally, if at all, to standard acne treatments.

What causes Rosacea?

What causes rosacea? After much research and conjecture, we still don't know. It has long been suspected that some kind of microbe (likely Demodex folliculorum) under the skin is responsible for the symptoms but there are other theories about a generalized vascular inflammatory disorder. Regardless of the etiology, one of the classic and effective treatments is the topical drug metronidazole found in MetroGel, MetroLotion, and MetroCream. There are also studies showing adapalene (Differin), topical benzoyl peroxide with erythromycin gel, or azelaic acid are also good options to consider. What is most important is starting treatment as soon as the condition is identified to keep problems from getting worse, particularly the occurrence of surfaced capillaries (Sources: Cutis, March 2005, pages 27-32; International Journal of Dermatology, March 2005, pages 252-255; Dermatology, February 2005, pages 100-108; Expert Opinion on Pharmacotherapy, January 2004, pages 5-13; Journal of Dermatology, August 2004, pages 610-617; Archives of Dermatology, November 2003, pages 1444-1450).

Other possible causative factors that have seen their fair share of speculation, include hereditary links, environmental causes, vascular problems, miscellaneous inflammatory factors and the stomach ulcer-causing microorganism Helicobacter pylori (Sources: Dermatology, February 2005, pages 100-108 and Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology, September 2004, pages 327-341).

Skin Care for Rosacea

Whichever method of treatment or combination therapy you and your physician decide on, it is important to take steps in your regular skin-care routine to ensure it is as gentle as possible. For those with rosacea, reducing any risk of irritation or sensitizing reactions will help reduce the risk of flare-ups and exacerbations. Fragrance- and irritant-free products are paramount but avoiding topical scrubs, washcloths, at-home facial peels, products containing alcohol, hot water, or steam rooms can also be significant (Sources: Cutis, March 2005, pages 17-21 and March 2004, pages 183-187; and Dermatologic Therapy, 2004; 17 Supplemental 1, pages 26-34).

Generally speaking, it is best for those with rosacea to stick with the basics:

Gentle, non-drying water-soluble cleanser (absolutely no bar soap or bar cleansers)
Sunscreen with SPF 15 or higher containing the active ingredients of titanium dioxide and/or zinc oxide (other sunscreen agents can prove irritating). Those with rosacea and oily skin may find using a foundation and pressed powder with sunscreen is a great alternative.
Moisturizer formulated with antioxidants and barrier-protecting ingredients (to improve skin function).
Salicylic acid (BHA) exfoliant.**

Until your rosacea is under control, you may want to avoid all sources of flare-ups, including strenuous exercise, cooking over a hot stove, spending too much time outdoors when the weather is summer-hot or winter-cold, alcohol consumption, or anything that causes your skin to feel hot and redden. Many patients find it helpful to keep a diary of their rosacea triggers, and that includes noting what causes their flare-ups or reactions to skin care and cosmetics used. As much as possible, try to minimize sources of stress; you may want to consider alternative methods of stress control, including meditation and controlled, focused breathing. Talk to your dermatologist about which over-the-counter, anti-inflammatory medications (aspirin, naproxen, ibuprofen) may be suitable for calming flare-ups.

Ingredients to Avoid

While it is almost impossible to list all of the ingredients that can potentially trigger reactions for those with rosacea, the following is a good general list to consider. Keep in mind that not everyone reacts the same to any of these elements:

Acetone
Alcohol or SD alcohol followed by a number (Ingredients like cetyl alcohol or stearyl alcohol are standard, benign, waxlike cosmetic thickening agents and are completely nonirritating.)
Ammonia
Arnica
Ascorbic acid
Balm mint
Balsam
Bentonite
Benzalkonium chloride
Bergamot
Camphor
Chamomile
Cinnamon
Citrus juices and oils (such as grapefruit or orange)
Clove
Clover blossom
Cocoa butter
Coriander
Cornstarch
Eucalyptus
Fennel
Fennel oil
Fir needle
Fragrances of any kind
Geranium
Horsetail
Lavender
Lemon
Lemongrass
Lime
Marjoram
Melissa
Menthol
Mint
Oak bark
Papaya
Peppermint
Phenol
Sandalwood oil
SD alcohol, ethanol alcohol or isopropyl alcohol
Sodium C14-16 olefin sulfate
Sodium lauryl sulfate
TEA-lauryl sulfate
Thyme
Wintergreen
Witch hazel
Ylang-ylang
The Rosacea Review, an online newsletter of the National Rosacea Society, at www.rosacea.org/rr/, is an excellent source for detailed and ongoing information concerning treatment and research for rosacea.

*As effective as an oral antibiotic can be when you begin taking it, after a period of time bacteria can become immune to the antibiotic, causing symptoms to return. Most of the research about antibiotic bacteria-resistance is based on research regarding other uses such as acne and infections. Whether or not this is a concern for rosacea should be discussed with your physician. (Sources: International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents, March 2004, pages 209-212; Dermatology, January 2003, pages 54-56; Expert Opinion on Pharmacotherapy, March 2005, pages 409-418; and American Journal of Clinical Dermatology, April 2003, pages 813-831).

**BHA is an interesting option for rosacea, not only does it exfoliate skin and improve pore function, it has anti-inflammatory action (due to its relationship to aspirin—acetyl salicylic acid), which may help reduce the facial redness caused by the papules and pustules that can accompany rosacea. BHA also has antimicrobial properties that can reduce the presence of the microbe thought to be causing the problem. Just like any other rosacea therapy, salicylic acid won't work for everyone (indeed, some rosacea patients find it intolerable) but it is comparably inexpensive and worth a try (Sources: Dermatology, January 1999, pages 50-53; Pain, September 1995, pages 339-347; and Archives of Dermatology, November 2000, pages 1390-1395).
2Poodles Southeast PA
fine, med porosity, normal elasticity
Currently using the following 2 - 3 x/week:
Living Proof Perfect Hair Day suphate-free Poo, cone-free CO and styling treatment, plus KCCC

Here's the rest - it couldn't all fit in one message....

Acne Rosacea

For years, this skin condition was simply referred to as "acne rosacea." Unfortunately, pustules (pimples) and papules (red, raised bumps) are often present, which makes rosacea look like acne. Rosacea is rarely, if ever, accompanied by blackheads and many sufferers deal with persistent dryness (flaking) over the affected areas. These polar opposite symptoms can be extremely confusing because the dry, flaky skin responds minimally to moisturizers and the bumps and whiteheads do not respond to typical acne treatments. Further complicating matters, when doctors misdiagnose rosacea, the medications prescribed usually make matters worse. Fortunately, due to a new classification system of four rosacea subtypes, more physicians are becoming familiar with how to recognize and properly diagnose rosacea (Source: www.rosacea.org).

Keep in mind that when rosacea first develops, it may appear, disappear, and then reappear a short time later. This series of visible problems and spontaneous remissions also make a precise diagnosis difficult. Despite its mysterious nature, the condition rarely reverses itself and almost always becomes worse without treatment. Rosacea most often starts with skin that stays persistently red and doesn't return to its normal color. Other symptoms, such as enlarged blood vessels, flaky patches, oily skin, skin sensitivity, and breakouts, become more and more visible. As rosacea progresses, pimples appear on the face in the form of small, solid red and pus-filled bumps. In more advanced cases of rosacea, a bulbous, enlarged red nose and puffy cheeks (rhinophyma) may develop. However, rhinophyma, for some reason, rarely occurs in women.

Rosacea Treatments

The treatments for rosacea are varied and all these options are to be considered because what works for you may not be the same as for someone else. But finding one that does work for you is critical to keeping this problem at bay and reducing (or potentially eliminating) all symptoms. Unfortunately, all of the topical treatments for controlling rosacea are only available by prescription. They include:
MetroGel, MetroCream, MetroLotion, and Noritate (active ingredient metronidazole)
Azelaic acid (Azelex, a cream, or Finacea, a gel)
Topical sulfur preparations (Klaron, Plexion)
Adapalene (Differin)
Benzoyl peroxide with erythromycin applied topically
Oral antibiotics (tetracycline) prescribed in combination with topical treatments.*
isotretinoin
Laser treatments
(Sources: Cutis, March 2005, 13-16; Journal of Drugs in Dermatology, May-June 2004, pages 251-266; and www.emedmag.com/html/pre/cov/covers/121503.asp).

It should be noted that some patients cannot tolerate metronidazole. If you cannot tolerate it, don’t despair: research has shown an alternate treatment consisting of the disinfectant benzoyl peroxide with topical antibiotic erythromycin can be a very effective alternative (Source: The Journal of Dermatology, August 2004, pages 610-617). Another study compared results of 0.75% topical metronidazole (MetroLotion) to 15% azelaic acid (Finacea) and the 251 patients who completed a 15-week treatment regimen found success with both options, though azelaic acid had a slight edge (Source: Archives of Dermatology, October 2004, pages 1282-1283).

If the inflammation and redness of rosacea is accompanied by numerous papules and pustules, there is research showing that the topical prescription Differin (active ingredient adapalene) can be of significant help. However, Differin doesn’t have an effect on facial redness, so for best results, it is used in combination with metronidazole (Source: International Journal of Dermatology, Volume 44, Issue 3, March 2005, pages 252-255). Some dermatologists may also prescribe tretinoin (Retin-A, Renova) though most rosacea patients find the side effects of this vitamin A medication intolerable (Source: www.drnase.com/Prescipt_ions.htm).

For extremely stubborn or unresponsive cases of rosacea, the powerful oral medication isotretinoin (isotretinoin, also available as a generic) may be worth considering. It has been shown in several studies to be effective for those with treatment-resistant rosacea, and it is effective in an extremely low dose. No one is quite sure how or why isotretinoin works for rosacea, but the success rate is positive, and after treatment, the swelling and distortion of the oil glands are often resolved (Source: Archives of Dermatology, July 1998, pages 884–885; and Total Skin, David J. Leffell, M.D., Hyperion, 2000, page 337).

In conjunction with topical and oral prescription medicines, non-ablative laser and Intense Pulsed Light (IPL) treatments have shown great promise in helping to restore rosacea-afflicted skin to its natural, non-reddened coloring and healthy appearance. Whereas prescriptions such as MetroCream or Azelex work to control the theoretical cause of rosacea and minimize symptoms, they are not all-encompassing solutions. For example, facial flushing and telangiectasias are typically not affected by topical rosacea treatments (Sources: Journal of Drugs in Dermatology, September-October 2004, pages 12-22; Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology, October 2004, pages 592-599; British Journal of Plastic Surgery, June 2004, pages 303-310; and Journal of Drugs in Dermatology, June 2003, pages 254-259). Although laser and light-emitting procedures hold much promise, keep your expectations realistic and remember that you will most likely see a reduction (not elimination) of bothersome facial redness. In addition, keep in mind that upwards of six treatments are generally required to produce satisfactory results.
2Poodles Southeast PA
fine, med porosity, normal elasticity
Currently using the following 2 - 3 x/week:
Living Proof Perfect Hair Day suphate-free Poo, cone-free CO and styling treatment, plus KCCC

thanks 2poodles...very interesting read. The reason I question whether or not my problem is rosacea, is because I don't have any "blushing." I have the rashiness/pimples, mostly around my mouth and chin, although this go-round tended to move up my face more. I've wondered about dermatitis, but I don't know. I'm thankful that it's subsided and hope that what I'm using now will continue to work for me.
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
Thanks very much, 2poodles, but I've already covered all this in my own rosacea research over the years - practically lived on the rosacea.org boards for a while, LOL. It's a very individual thing - most of the "rules" don't fit mine. For instance, I've never had the flushing that most people identify with rosacea.

My biggest problem with it is and always has been, except during a couple of acute bouts, the telangiectasias - broken capillaries. Alas, little helps them permanently for me - I've already been the laser and IPL route.

VTmom, I've had seborrheic dermatitis on my face and scalp since I was a child, but it presents as flaking and scaling, not pimples or a rash. Of course, that may be atypical with me, too, LOL!

Four different dermatologists are quite insistent that I have both SD and roseacea, though I still have my doubts about the latter at times
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett

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