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TON of useful information for new curlies!! =)

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Oops! Wrong thread, but thank you for posting a link to the Conditioners thread!
This is kind of embarrassing, but I sometimes have a hard time remembering what I'm supposed to do in the morning

Here's my remedy!




What is that? Well, I wrote down all of my steps on a piece of paper and stuck it in a snack-size ziploc bag. Now I can take my steps with me all over the bathroom, even in the shower!
Originally Posted by wowohwow
Great idea, I would do the same! BTW I see you put this in your signature: Curl Cream: about to try AG re:coil!!!

What is AG? Thank you in advance!
What is AG? Thank you in advance!
Originally Posted by Curladelphia
It's a hair products brand! Here is a link!
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


Ahhh, thank you!

Wow, expensive stuff! But if it works miracles I bet it's worth every penny!
Ahhh, thank you!

Wow, expensive stuff! But if it works miracles I bet it's worth every penny!
Originally Posted by Curladelphia
Woman, you have no idea. I hate getting expensive stuff because I don't like not knowing if it will work, but OMG. I tried re:coil for the first time this morning and AHHHHHHHHHH. It's definitely my new HG. There are a couple of kinks I need to work out (pun intended lol), like amount to use (VERY little) and what mousse to layer over, but it's definitely worth the $$. Try getting it off the swap board - that's what I did - it was about $10 cheaper than retail!
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


Oooh thanks for that idea. I can also check out Ebay, too! I keep forgetting about Ebay! That's where I got the Abba Pure Curl Shampoo.
That's where I got the Abba Pure Curl Shampoo.
Originally Posted by Curladelphia
Oh yeah? How do you like that line?
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


This is awesome information. My curls are so
mis-informed
Hello curlies! =)

I’m writing this post because it took me forever to find all the information on this website. With no offense to anyone, the information on this site is scattered, making it difficult trying to learn about new techniques/products as they happen! Soo this is an attempt to make a post about some general techniques and ideas you can start with, a “base camp” shall we say

First, figure out your hair type - make sure to look through the pictures so that you get an accurate description! Additionally, read through this thread!

Here are ALL the steps to a CG routine. I’m emphasizing the word ALL here, because not ALL of these steps work for everyone. Becoming CG is an experimental process over a few weeks while you figure out what your hair likes best =) Trust me, in the end, it’s SO worth it. If you don’t believe me, check out the before/after thread!

Before you start becoming CG, wash your hair one last time with a clarifying shampoo so that you can start with a “clean slate,” so to speak. This will (hopefully) be the last time you use shampoo – rejoice!

1. Cowash
What does it mean to cowash? You wash your hair with conditioner. I know, it sounds gross. However, your hair doesn’t need all the nasty sulfates in your shampoo – they just strip your hair of essential oils =( If you want more convincing, most shampoos contain a sulfate called “sodium laureth sulfate.” What else has this same sulfate? DISHWASHING LIQUID. Know that horrible feeling on your hands if you ever accidentally wash your hands with dishwashing liquid? Now imagine that on a million strands of hair on your head! =( In essence, washing your hair with conditioner is enough. Just be sure to use LOTS of friction so that you “rub out” all the dirt, oil, grime, etc. =)

2. Baking soda; ACV rinse

A lot of people use baking soda and an ACV (apple cider vinegar; you can also use regular vinegar) rinse to get that “squeaky clean” feeling, and for a naturally clarifying effect. I don’t want to say anything more here that is incorrect, so I’m going to quote some nc.com users =)

The baking soda is alkaline (as are soap and most shampoos), so you need the acidity of an ACV or citric acid rinse to restore you hair's pH.
(With the baking soda wash and ACV rinse you don't get the volcanic reaction of mixing straight vinegar and baking soda, BTW.)
Here's a recipe from Live Curly, Live Free:
Baking Soda Clarification
With some silicone-based products, clarification must be done to remove the product that builds up over time on the hair shaft. Rather than resort to sulfate-based shampoos to remove this build-up, which can damage and dry the hair, a baking soda cleanse is preferable:

Combine:
1 tablespoon baking soda
3 tablespoons silicone-free conditioner

Apply mixture to the scalp and massage firmly, then continue to massage the mixture down the hair shaft to the ends. Work into hair well. Rinse thoroughly with warm water and follow IMMEDIATELY with an apple cider vinegar rinse.

Note: you MUST follow any baking soda cleanse with an apple cider vinegar rinse. Baking soda is alkaline -- meaning it will raise your cuticle and open up your hair shaft. The apple cider vinegar is acidic and will close your cuticle back down. If you don't follow the cleanse with an ACV rinse, you'll be leaving your hair shaft open and setting yourself up for more frizz than you'd probably like.
Originally Posted by curlymaybe
3. Honey rinse

I’m not sure exactly where I found this idea/recipe, but I do know that it works! Mix a tablespoon of honey into a cup of water (that’s the ratio; multiply as needed) and pour it on to your hair. Let your hair soak for a few minutes, then rinse to get an extra shot of moisture and shine! =)

4. Condition – icequeen method

At this point, rinse everything out of your hair, and condition as you usually would. You can try the the icequeen method, created by nc.com user "icequeen."
Here’s the gist of her method:



Here is the link to a thread about her method. There are a few variations, so be sure to check those out =)

5. The “in-shower” part of your CG routine is now complete - I thought I’d throw this step in there for clarification!


6. Leave in

A lot of people just use their cowash conditioner as a “leave-in” conditioner. Basically, you scrunch a small amount of conditioner into your hair after you're out of the shower. This is step one of your "base coat" (as Rudeechick calls it).


7. Curl cream

This is step two of your base coat. Curl creams promote curl formation and give your curls extra hold. NOTE: If you use a curl cream that has humectants in it, DO NOT use it over your conditioner and skip the leave-in step. If you mix the two, you’ll be left with little white flecks all over your hair – don’t say you weren’t warned!

Side note: here are two articles about humectants – article one and article two.

8. Comb your hair with a fine-tooth comb or a denman.

I know this sounds counterintuitive, but this promotes clumping, for whatever reason! Play around with it though, because it doesn’t work for everyone.

9. Super soaker

Another revolutionary method!! Naturallycurly.com user Rudeechick created this method. Here is the link to the thread and her video!


10. Gel/mousse

This is another experimental realm. Some people like gel, some people like mousse! Search your hair type thread to find out what people with your hair are using =)

Here is a link to a wildly popular flax seed gel!

11. Plopping/plunking

Another great technique! Here is a link to the how-to article, and here is a link to a great video by Jessie of the Jessicurls brand. =) Jessie uses a special towel, but you can just use an old t-shirt!

12. Diffuse – pixiecurl method

Another technique! I’m not sure if the user “pixie curl” created this technique, but here is the link to the thread if needed, and here are the general directions:


Pixiecurl is a method of drying your hair using a diffuser. You press the diffuser into your hair so the bowl is scrunching your curls, then you turn the dryer on. Before moving the dryer, turn it off. It is a lot of turning on/off, and some do get annoyed/ask if there is something wrong with your dryer, but it keeps your hair from blowing around and helps prevent frizz.
Originally Posted by rejoicingcurlygirl
13. For 2nd day…3rd day…etc hair!

Use the pineapple technique to “set” your hair when you sleep at night, and then spray your hair in the morning with a curl spray. (I just use water )

To continue from the quote above…

Pineapple is done to dry hair at the end of the day before going to bed. You loosely gather the hair at the very top of your head, and put it in a ponytail. Because it sticks up and flops over your head resembles a pineapple.
Originally Posted by rejoicingcurlygirl
In addition! Here are some helpful links =)

Here is a link to help out with abbreviations that people on this site use.

Here is a link to start out CG on a budget.

Here is a link to the “best of the best” products available!

Here is a ink to some useful curly links.

Here is a link to great summer vs. winter seasonal changes.

Here is a link to a lot of great curly blogs!

Here is a link to the Spritz and Condish Method!

Here is a link to an article about dew points - veryyy important when it comes to styling!

*** ALSO, PLEASE ADD INFO AS NEEDED ***
Originally Posted by wowohwow
Wow! This is a lot of information. Thanks so much for taking the time out to help out the newbies :-)

Jonsey23
This is awesome information. My curls are so mis-informed
Originally Posted by MsSexycurl
Wow! This is a lot of information. Thanks so much for taking the time out to help out the newbies :-)

Jonsey23
Originally Posted by Jonesey23
No problem! Glad to be of service
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


I just found this site yesterday and I love it! Thank you for all the information, I never knew that there was so much to do with curly hair. I never realized how much I neglected my hair. I'm going to try everything on the list! Thank you again!
umm, if I dont feel comfortable not using any shampoo, is it okay to use a shampoo that doesn't contain sulfates?
And, should i condition daily?
3 a/b. Dark-medium brown.
Natural products: eggs, lemon juice, honey, aloe vera gel. Cone free stylers.
Suave and VO5!!!
umm, if I dont feel comfortable not using any shampoo, is it okay to use a shampoo that doesn't contain sulfates?
And, should i condition daily?
Originally Posted by Smooch
absolutely! and yes, condition daily

if you want sulfate-free shampoo suggestions, let me know!
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


I do want suggestions! Thanks

I bought a shampoo that I thought was sulfate free, but I looked back over the ingredients and it has sulfates that are supposed to be milder than the regular ones used in shampoos....is it okay to use or should i ditch it?
3 a/b. Dark-medium brown.
Natural products: eggs, lemon juice, honey, aloe vera gel. Cone free stylers.
Suave and VO5!!!
I do want suggestions! Thanks

I bought a shampoo that I thought was sulfate free, but I looked back over the ingredients and it has sulfates that are supposed to be milder than the regular ones used in shampoos....is it okay to use or should i ditch it?
Originally Posted by Smooch
Well sulfates in general are harsh and drying, so you want to try and stay away from them.

And as far as shampoo suggestions, if there's a Whole Foods near you, I highly suggest the "Whole Foods 365" organic shampoo! For whatever reason, it's about $2.50 a bottle (same as sulfate-filled shampoo) and it works great! This is the least expensive option I've found so far. If you want to venture into more expensive products, you can try Mop c-curl, Deva, etc.

Oh oh! And if Whole Foods is too far away or something, Target has an organic line called Giovanni that's aweeesome as well it's a little more expensive, like $8, but it's awesome too!
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817



Last edited by wowohwow; 06-30-2010 at 08:21 PM.
Thank you! can I bother you one more time about conditioners? Cause i think my conditioner has proteins in that my hair doesn't like. :/
3 a/b. Dark-medium brown.
Natural products: eggs, lemon juice, honey, aloe vera gel. Cone free stylers.
Suave and VO5!!!
Thank you! can I bother you one more time about conditioners? Cause i think my conditioner has proteins in that my hair doesn't like. :/
Originally Posted by Smooch
No problem Well, proteins are usually unnecessary for those with anything but babyfine hair. Your hair doesn't look fine from your pictures...

The two conditioners I loooove are in my signature: GVP Conditioning Balm (from Sally's) is a very very thick conditioner that I use during low dew points for extra moisture, and the Tresemme Naturals Moisutre is thinner but still moisturizing, and I use it for high dew points

I've found that for my hair, thick conditioners + high dew points gives me that product-y, "gooey" feeling, if you know what I mean? blech!

Let me know if were thinking of something else
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


Thank you! I don't know why I thought my hair was fine, lol. But I have switched to using a conditioner with no protein and seems to be working better.
3 a/b. Dark-medium brown.
Natural products: eggs, lemon juice, honey, aloe vera gel. Cone free stylers.
Suave and VO5!!!
Thank you! I don't know why I thought my hair was fine, lol. But I have switched to using a conditioner with no protein and seems to be working better.
Originally Posted by Smooch
Ahaha :P Yay! that's awesome Hope you find products that work!!
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


omg, thanks a million for taking such time and effort on writing this. I recently posted a thread regarding confusion on the cg method and now im starting to understand it more. And i love your idea on writing down the steps that is something i will consider... But the gel you use does it have to be specificly for curly hair or can it be just a regular one..With no silicones. Thanks, im going to start cg soon so need all the info i can get and your post was fab

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