Go Back   CurlTalk > Announcements and introductions > Newbies info/introductions

Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By coilynapp

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-25-2011, 08:51 AM   #1
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5
Default methosulfate good or bad?

I know sulfates are bad for curly hair. But I keep seeing the ingredient: Dipalmitoylethyl hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate or methosulfate by itself. Is this a bad ingredient for curly hair?

I have a Phytojoba intense hydrating mask that has this ingredient and I would like to know if it is safe to use on my 3b, dry, highlighted curly hair. Thanks for your support!!!
Rulitos03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2011, 01:36 PM   #2
 
WurlyLox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,791
Default

Not familiar with this particular methosulfate, but I know many curlies love products that contain bhentrimonium (sp?) methosulfate - I don't believe methosulfates in general are the enemy like sodium lauryl or laureth sulfate, ammonium lauryl or laureth sulfate, TEA lauryl sulfate, etc.
__________________
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett
WurlyLox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2011, 02:32 PM   #3
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5
Default

Thank you so much for your reply, it helps me a lot!
Do you think that it the following ingredient words appear by themselves like, sodium, lauryl, laureth, sulfate, ammonium they are bad ingredients, too?
I'm starting to get familiarize with curly hair ingredients.

Thanks !
Rulitos03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2011, 03:03 PM   #4
 
coilynapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 4,213
Default

Dipalmitoylethyl hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate is not bad. It is a quaternary ammonium salt derived from palm oil. It's good for conditioning and detangling. You will find methosulfates in your conditioners. It is not a harsh cleansing sulfate like SLS or ALS

hth
ebonyrose31626 likes this.
coilynapp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2011, 03:45 PM   #5
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by coilynapp View Post
Dipalmitoylethyl hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate is not bad. It is a quaternary ammonium salt derived from palm oil. It's good for conditioning and detangling. You will find methosulfates in your conditioners. It is not a harsh cleansing sulfate like SLS or ALS

hth
Thank you soooo much! I feel more calm seen this ingredient in my products.

Thanks!!!
Rulitos03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2011, 04:48 PM   #6
 
coilynapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 4,213
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rulitos03 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by coilynapp View Post
Dipalmitoylethyl hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate is not bad. It is a quaternary ammonium salt derived from palm oil. It's good for conditioning and detangling. You will find methosulfates in your conditioners. It is not a harsh cleansing sulfate like SLS or ALS

hth
Thank you soooo much! I feel more calm seen this ingredient in my products.

Thanks!!!
you're welcome!
coilynapp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2011, 03:17 PM   #7
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5
Default Phyto Products

Does anyone know if these two products are good for curly hair?

Phytojoba Intense Hydrating Mask
Ingredients:
Angelica Archangelica Root Extract, Cetearyl Alcohol (Dérivé D'huile De Coco), Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Dipalmitoylethyl Hydroxyethylmonium Methosulfate, Decyl Glucoside, Dimethicone, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Oil (Huile Essentielle D'orange Douce), Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride (Dérivé De Gomme Guar), Ceteareth-20, Limonene, Linalool, Fragrance / Parfum, Amodimethicone, Tetrasodium Edta, Benzophenone-4, Citric Acid, Trideceth-12, Methylisothiazolinone, Sodium Benzoate.

Phyto Oil Treatment
Ingredients:
Calendula Officinalis Flower Extract, Peg-35 Castor Oil (Dérivé D'huile De Ricin), Sodium Lauroyl Oat Amino Acids (Dérivé D'acides Aminés D'avoine), Palmitoyl Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein (Dérivé D'acides Aminés De Blé), Salvia Officinalis (Sage) Oil (Sauge), Citrus Medica Limonum (Lemon) Peel Oil (Citron), Rosmarinus Officinalis ( Rosemary) Leaf Oil (Romarin), Juniperus Communis Fruit Oil (Baie De Genièvre), Zea Mays (Corn) Oil (Huile De Germe De Maïs), Vinegar / Acetum, Limonene, Citral, Beta-Carotene, Water /Aqua, Phenoxyethanol, Methylisothiazolinone, Methylchloroisothiazolinone.

Since I do highlights I don't want to damage my hair even more with the wrong products. Your help is greatly appreciated!
Rulitos03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2011, 01:02 PM   #8
 
Rusycurly's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 716
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rulitos03 View Post
Does anyone know if these two products are good for curly hair?


Since I do highlights I don't want to damage my hair even more with the wrong products. Your help is greatly appreciated!

With the first product I would be careful with the Dimethicone since it's a silicone. This one might coat your hair and might not let any moisture into your hair. It might just give you the appereance that your hair is moisturized but in reality the silicone sucks moisture out of your hair.

The second product has hydrolized protein. While it can be great if your hair needs protein, it could also mess up your hair if it alreadly has enough protein (So chek if other products you use have that ingredient)

Hope that helped a little
Rusycurly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2011, 06:34 PM   #9
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusycurly View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rulitos03 View Post
Does anyone know if these two products are good for curly hair?


Since I do highlights I don't want to damage my hair even more with the wrong products. Your help is greatly appreciated!

With the first product I would be careful with the Dimethicone since it's a silicone. This one might coat your hair and might not let any moisture into your hair. It might just give you the appereance that your hair is moisturized but in reality the silicone sucks moisture out of your hair.

The second product has hydrolized protein. While it can be great if your hair needs protein, it could also mess up your hair if it alreadly has enough protein (So chek if other products you use have that ingredient)

Hope that helped a little
I'm sorry for taking so long to thank you for your comment. I just got my internet connection back.
... THANKS for the tip Rusycurly! I was just reading carefully the ingredients on the Phytojoba mask and the actual box doesn't have the Dimethicone ingredient which is pretty good. So I guess I'm good to go! the other one it does have the protein, so I guess I'll see how it goes with that one.

Is too much protein bad? how do I know if my hair has to much protein in it already?

Thanks girl!
Rulitos03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Trending Topics[-]hide

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2011 NaturallyCurly.com