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Old 01-09-2013, 07:57 AM   #1
 
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Talking Finally going CG!!!

I have been CG modified for a while but noticed that some products still had cones in them. Today I start my first attempt at pure CG no sulfates or cones. I would like to know what products have worked best and which ones really hold curls. I am looking to buy SM organic shea butter curl shampoo...has anyone tried it? Also about hair routines that have worked. Before and after pics would be much appreciated. Also if anyone knows of a good salon that knows how to cut curly hair in the miami, fl area. Im in desperate need of a haircut but i always get the pyramid effect. Thanks for the help & sorry for the long post.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:17 PM   #2
 
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Hello, longlivecurls! I love the Shea Moisture line. But products work differently on everyone. A good place to start is learning about your hair properties. That will help you narrow down what products will work best for your hair. Here are some links that helped me a great deal in understanding properties:
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Old 01-12-2013, 07:46 PM   #3
 
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I have some products from that line and I like them so far just havent tried this specific shampoo. I do like that it has protein even tho my hair is nowhere near fine (ive read protein works well on fine hair) it tends to love protein. Thanks for the links looks like i got some hw to do lol

oh by the way i love your hair hope my hair can look that nice one day
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Welcome to the CG journey. I do think it is a journey...finding out how your hair responds and which products to use. I loved the scent of the SM curl shampoo, but alas, my hair did not like it too much. Have fun!
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:37 AM   #5
 
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Welcome! For some advice that may help you avoid the whole "pyramid" hair cut, check out this link:

Basically, what's required is strategic layers, at least some of which are cut at a diagonal angle. The top-most layers (in the crown and around the face) should have angles cut short enough to relieve the curls of excess weight that might otherwise give you the "flat top" look, which when paired with the rest of the hair, creates that pyramidic east-west volume.

It's also a great idea to consider stylists who specialize in curly hair. If you haven't already, you could try having your hair cut dry instead of wet for more predictable results. Some salons offer the "Deva cut", for example.

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Thanks ladies for the advice. Today is the first day i will use the shampoo so ill update how it goes.

As for the haircut that's exactly what I always get flat top and poof around the neck area disaster lol even tho I get layers they always cut it like straight hair and wet I'm looking for a good Devacurl cut specialist in Miami. Know of any???

Any 2nd day tips n tricks? I'm having trouble finding a good method so far I just put it in a bun :\
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For finding salons in your area, you can try clicking on the "Salons" feature at the top of the page. It helps you to search by region and to check out salon reviews. You can also do a search on Yelp (can search under your area, and use keywords like "curly hair salon").

For 2nd day hair, purchase a silk pillow case. They help keep your hair from snagging and the curls from getting snarled or pulled out of shape. Alternately, some women use silk hair bonnets. ... One method for keeping curls protected at night as you toss and turn is something called the pineapple method.
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I do both the satin pillowcase and the pineapple (hubby calls it my "chicken head"). I know I look like a dork but it really does help. In the morning, I take the pineapple down and spritz with water or a mixture of water and aloe vera gel, scrunch a little and I'm good to go. Sometimes I put a few jaw clips in the top while the spritz dries for a little extra lift on the crown area. It's a pretty simple routine but it's gotten me 3rd and even 4th day hair.
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I do both the satin pillowcase and the pineapple (hubby calls it my "chicken head"). I know I look like a dork but it really does help. In the morning, I take the pineapple down and spritz with water or a mixture of water and aloe vera gel, scrunch a little and I'm good to go. Sometimes I put a few jaw clips in the top while the spritz dries for a little extra lift on the crown area. It's a pretty simple routine but it's gotten me 3rd and even 4th day hair.
I too have been doing both the satin pillow and pineapple and have been getting OK, not great, 2nd day hair. What kind of jaw clips do you use?
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Last night I tried the pineapple method with just a cloth scrunchie. It was ok but I ended up putting it in a high ponytail before lunch lol the bottom curls were nice but my hair is too long for the pineapple method to work effectively. I don't have a satin pillowcase so during lunch I hit Walmart and bought a satin cap. Can't wait to try it out and see if it helps.

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As far as pineappling long hair, you can simply place a second (or even third) scrunchie further down the length of your "pineapple". But whether or not you feel like trying that, hopefully you'll be happy with your new satin cap
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I use the simple, clips that can be purchased in any drug store. Sometimes called claw clips or butterfly clips. Like these only a little bigger:



I lift a little hair and randomly place them around the top of my head. Gives me nice volume.
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As far as pineappling long hair, you can simply place a second (or even third) scrunchie further down the length of your "pineapple". But whether or not you feel like trying that, hopefully you'll be happy with your new satin cap
I will give that a try and see how it goes ...any tips on how I can help my curls clump? I'm getting stringy hair and it's everywhere lol
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I use the simple, clips that can be purchased in any drug store. Sometimes called claw clips or butterfly clips. Like these only a little bigger:



I lift a little hair and randomly place them around the top of my head. Gives me nice volume.
Definitely need to buy some and give it a try I need volume at my roots
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Thank aqua_lily
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I will give that a try and see how it goes ...any tips on how I can help my curls clump? I'm getting stringy hair and it's everywhere lol
My hair naturally clumps like crazy and I can tell you there is one thing that will push it to clump even more:

Raking excess conditioner through my dripping wet hair (finger combing it through). It creates cyclonical clumps of slimy goodness, whether or not I rinse most or all of that conditioner out (I always leave some in).

And then I've heard some people say just the act of scrunching conditioner and gel into their wet hair works ... But then again, some say that actually breaks up their curls (?). I don't bother scrunching because I'm too lazy too, plus nothing but an act of God (or a bad chemical process) will keep my hair from curling up.

Some people use the Super Soaker method.
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yea I've had that problem too some days it helps and others gel makes my hair stringy which even tho it does curl its not the look I'm going for. I don't know if it has anything to do with the fact that i squeeze the water out and then apply a cream and gel...I wonder if i should try applying the products while still in the shower??? i love your curls wish my hair looked like that

aqua_lily I didn't see the your pictures till now (for some reason they didn't show on my phone before) your curls are amazing and soft looking...whats your styling method?
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Curly hair is such an unpredictable animal LOL ... I completely think you're right, that squeezing the water out of hair can reduce it's clumping action! Yeah, you may find it easier to just do your hair while in the shower - at least I have because you don't have to worry so much about all that water getting everywhere But it sounds like right now you're in experimentation mode and are learning exactly the sort of routine that's going to work best for you ... Thanks so much for the hair compliment! I'm sure your hair is lovely
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Yea definitely experimental mode it's a bit frustrating cause you gotta try so many things but I'm hoping that once I get it right my hair will look awesome and it'll all be worth it...still on the search for a stylist I think that will improve a lot of my issues especially since my ends are dry...can't wait to try out the new routine and see how it goes
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