Confused newb... Chemicals to stay away from?

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Hi! My name is Bernadette and I'm sooo excited about this site. I have Curly hair but have been straightening (frying it BADLY) for years, I also have stuck with the same old Head N Shoulders routine for years because no one ever told me certain chemicals can cause dandruff, as well as make my hair fall out!!

But I ran across a vlog about Curly hair routines (get glammed up on youtube). She suggested checking out this site for help.

In my attempt to get my hair back to a natural and healthy state I'm slowly changing over all my products. Here are my question:

Which chemicals in products can cause hair loss?

When I start using all natural products, will the Vinegar Baking soda do as a clarifying wash before I start using natural shampoos and going on a Co-Wash regimen? Or will I HAVE to by a clarifying shampoo (if so, any recommendations)?

Also after years of torturing my hair is there anything else I can do to speed up the process of having healthy thick hair? My ponytail is half the size it was 8 years ago.

Thanks for all your help!!
Welcome! You've come to the right place.
First of all, you MUST stop straightening your hair. I, too, was a flatiron addict for years. It's hard, but your hair will thank you!
Second, your dandruff problem may stem from the yucky chemical buildup FROM your shampoo/conditioner. The key to knowing what regimen is right for you is by simply experimenting and getting to know your hair in its natural state. I can use Wen (a cleansing conditioner--expensive but my whole family of curlies refuses to use anythng but!) as little as once a week, depending on how dirty/sweaty my hair gets. If you have an oiler scalp, you may have to go the lo-poo route.
Steer clear of silicones and sulfates. Most popular brands contain these, with the exception of a few.They initially make your hair look shiny and healthy, but they end up doing long term damage. You can find plenty of recommendations on this site for good silicone/sulfate free shampoos. You may even find that you don't even need shampoo once you have rid your scalp of all the nasty chemicals!
Hair loss is categorized in a few ways. I had three periods where I lost large amounts of hair (due to illness). This type of hair loss (biological) has nothing to do with the condition of the physical hair. The second type is due to excessive chemical treatments/hair coloring/heat damage/other physical stressors (for example, ponytails or buns that are too tight). I am guessing you are the second one.
Poor nutrition can affect the state of your hair. If you are not getting all of your essential nutrients, your new, virgin hair may grow in dull and weak. I have a problem getting all of my vitamins, so I take a daily multivitamin in addition to Healthy Hair, Skin, and Nails by Andrew Lessman. Hair growth typically takes a while to start, but you'll soon begin to notice faster, healthier hair growth. It also causes my nails to grow crazy fast, which is an added plus You can find these supplements at Target, Walmart, or Walgreens.
Otherwise, there aren't a whole lot of routes to make your hair grow faster. You may consider starting "fresh" with a new haircut to chop off any yucky ends. You will be shocked at how much thicker, healthier, and maybe even longer your hair looks! Try to find a hairdresser with curly hair experience. There's a "Salon Finder" tool on this site that will help you find someone in your area. Spur-of-the-moment trips to any open hairdresser usually doesn't end well for curlies.
Finally, experiment with products and oils to maximize your curls without stripping your hair. I use a combination of products, from a standard jar of extra virgin coconut oil to curl-specific mousse. I would recommend steering clear of any popular, commercial, "general-use" hairspray. These typically contain bad alcohols (there's a list on this site somewhere that lists "good" and "bad" alcohols) and all sorts of other nasty chemicals.
Have you discovered your hair type? Exact typing is not essential to taking care of your curls (hair is hair, after all!), but knowing whether you're a 2b or a 4b can help you figure out a good product regime. Look for profiles of people with similar hair as you have, and then see if their regime can work for you.

***Keep in mind that your hair may change as it gets healthier and if you cut it. Mine was more of a 2c when I was frying it, and now it's slowly creeping towards 3b as it goes longer without excessive heat or chemical damage. Do not get stuck on a particular type, but knowing the properties of your hair can help!***
3a w/ 3b underlayers
Low-normal porosity, regular-coarse
Recovering from TE
Products: Suave Naturals (co-wash), Kenra Moisturizing Conditioner, Fast Food (leave in), SM Curl Milk, Devacurl Light Defining Gel, coconut oil
(Product use varies according to weather, time constraints, and desired look )
Hi! My name is Bernadette and I'm sooo excited about this site. I have Curly hair but have been straightening (frying it BADLY) for years, I also have stuck with the same old Head N Shoulders routine for years because no one ever told me certain chemicals can cause dandruff, as well as make my hair fall out!!
Originally Posted by BernadetteJ

Which chemicals in products can cause hair loss?
Originally Posted by BernadetteJ
If you're experiencing hair loss, especially acute, please visit your primary care physician and/or a dermatologist (preferably both) right away. Hair loss is has many causes, many of which are health-related. A primary care physician and dermatologist can help figure out what is causing the problem. I highly highly recommend this! Sometimes our hair thins naturally as we age, but you won't know until you seek a professional opinion.

A dermatologist will also be able to look at your scalp and diagnose the flakes (could be dandruff, could be something else) and prescribe something as well.

Before you get started trying a bunch of new things on your hair/scalp please seek a professional opinion!
2BC/f/II. fine - low/normal porosity - medium density - normal elasticity.

Currently using:
Low-poo: Jason Mango bodywash
Cowash: Cure Care diluted with water 1:1
RO: Cure Care, V05 Kiwi Lime
Styler: UFD CM (old formula), FSG + CNPF
PT: IAgirl's gelatine

light moisture, hydrolized protein, jelly stylers
guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, sulfates, jojoba oil
Neutral on cones.

iherb discount code: CFN646
Hi! My name is Bernadette and I'm sooo excited about this site. I have Curly hair but have been straightening (frying it BADLY) for years, I also have stuck with the same old Head N Shoulders routine for years because no one ever told me certain chemicals can cause dandruff, as well as make my hair fall out!!

But I ran across a vlog about Curly hair routines (get glammed up on youtube). She suggested checking out this site for help.

In my attempt to get my hair back to a natural and healthy state I'm slowly changing over all my products. Here are my question:

Which chemicals in products can cause hair loss?

When I start using all natural products, will the Vinegar Baking soda do as a clarifying wash before I start using natural shampoos and going on a Co-Wash regimen? Or will I HAVE to by a clarifying shampoo (if so, any recommendations)?

Also after years of torturing my hair is there anything else I can do to speed up the process of having healthy thick hair? My ponytail is half the size it was 8 years ago.

Thanks for all your help!!
Originally Posted by BernadetteJ
Please don't put baking soda anywhere near your hair or scalp, it is alkaline so damaging to both. Skin likes pH ~5.5 and hair likes pH ~4.5 so try to have all your products in this range. Other damaging ingredients include sulphate surfactants and soap, but anything that causes irritation or inflammation can cause or contribute to hair loss in susceptible people - what you are sensitive or allergic to is highly personal so a list cannot really be created.

What is the medical diagnosis for your scalp? Without that you can't really build a routine, what is an effective treatment for one scalp condition can worsen another. You can remove product build up with a shampoo based on cocoamidopropyl betaine, you don't need sulphates.

Beneficial ingredients for damaged or porous hair include coconut oil, hydrolysed protein, ceramides and panthenol. For the scalp consider sea kelp bioferment and/ or ale vera inner leaf gel. Massage and daily physical activity (get your 10,000 steps) may both help speed growth perhaps by increasing circulation.

Lastly review your diet making it as anti inflammatory and nutrient dense as possible, healthy skin and hair are dependent on the full range of nutrients being available. Good diet can strengthen the skin barrier, reduce systemic inflammation, calm inappropriate immune responses, alter the composition and amount of your sebum - all can positively influence the common scalp complaints.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Thank you all so much for all the info!!! I'm getting a few inches cut off tomorrow and I have a natural clarifying shampoo (As I Am), vitamins (hair skin and nails) and virtually the entire line of Curls products! I think I'm ready to retire the straightener!!

Thanks!!

Bernadette
Thank you all so much for all the info!!! I'm getting a few inches cut off tomorrow and I have a natural clarifying shampoo (As I Am), vitamins (hair skin and nails) and virtually the entire line of Curls products! I think I'm ready to retire the straightener!!

Thanks!!

Bernadette
Originally Posted by BernadetteJ
Hair skin and nails supplements are not balanced or complete product. Pills do not substitute for an anti inflammatory nutrient dense diet, they are supplements only.

CURLS is a nice line, I hope you get on with it.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
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Hair skin and nails supplements are not balanced or complete product. Pills do not substitute for an anti inflammatory nutrient dense diet, they are supplements only.
Originally Posted by BernadetteJ
Completely agree, and will go further and say that unless there is a specific, diagnosed deficiency, vitamins are pretty much a crock. Always look to your diet. There is no vitamin or supplement on earth that can replace healthy food.
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3a/b, F, normal porosity

I've gotten my routine down to the bare essentials, finally
Wash: Suave Tropical Coconut
Leave-in: Suave Everlasting Sunshine, detangle with Denman brush
Gel: LAL Sport or Wet Look
Scrunch with flour sack towel, plop 10 minutes, air dry
Refresh with either plain water or Suave/water mix

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