thin curly hair needs help!

helloo guys, Im new here, and I terribly need help! Ive tried the co wash process for a while, and uh, not motivated at all, I dont see big changes and I miss my hair on silicone, I used to go for Shwarzkopf or Garnier. Lately, I couldnt resist a herbal essence conditionner ( it smells so good). Anyway anything changed.. I am totally desesperate cause, I dont understand my hair at all.. sometimes its really pretty, it was actually before Ive started carring too much on silicone and stuff...
My hair get dried quickly, around the second day after washing it.. also several hairdressers told me I have very thin hair and that was surprising for them.. also I see a decrease on my volume, also I have any routine.
I told you I am TOTALLY LOOOOST!
The only routine I have, is when I know Ill use shampoo ( once a week), I pre-poo with ricin oil or amla oil.
Please HELP! As soon as I can post pictures I will show you guys..
What is your hair routine?

Post everything you use and things like whether you are very sporty or not, as this will help us to help you.

Also post the country you are in as it will help stop people recommending products you can't get.

On the thin hair - There are a lot of people around with curly hair who have thin hair. It's not a big deal. Just because you are a particularly ethnic group doesn't mean your hair will automatically be thick or dense. Some people are born with thinner hair due to genetics while others end up with it due to genetics, hormones, illness etc.

Hairdressers/stylists who don't know this are inexperienced and should be avoided particularly if you want any form of chemical treatment on your hair whether it's dying or more.
First of all thank you for your answer, I used to have this routine:
prepoo with oils : Amla, Ricin or Homemade hair mask : egg + honey+ olive oil + argan oil + ylang ylang essential oil or lemon essential oil
low poo (once a week): Giovanni 2chic Tangerine and papaya butter ultra volume or Down under naturals NUDE volumizing shampoo for fine hair
Conditioner : down under naturals for dry and damaged hair with fruit proteins
Leave in: Vita-profusion protective moisture from Giovanni
Styling: Down under naturals fruitkicks Curl gel with pomegranate

I diffuse or let it air dry, but my hair is always frizzy so I put a little of olive oil everyday ( it is helping a lot) and...Thats it, but I didnt see any difference in my hair, except that it was better back to silicone time ( like I said swarzkopf and Garnier).
Why giovanni and down under naturals ? cause there are the only natural products I can find here, I am currently studying in Istanbul (Turkey) but I am originary from Morocco. Also at home, I have aussie products and Herbal Essence conditionner and Cadum shampoo AND Pantene conditioner that I dont use anymore because of the composition except for Herbal Essence, I used it only once last week, it smells like heaven *-*
The fact is, I feel like I don't understand my hair at all...
maybe I should forget and go back to old silicone times ?

here is my current hair :
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Do you have colour in your hair? If so what type of colour is it e.g. permanent, semipermanent, bleach ?
I think its permanent.. but my hair were fine, I did it like 4 month ago. I color my hair once a year usually to get blond reflects, this time I did an ombré tie and dye.
3 days ago I've rinsed my hair with apple cider vinegar, I loved it and it is getting better, I wonder if I can do it everytime I wash my hair..
Any routine suggestion ? )
. . .I've rinsed my hair with apple cider vinegar. . .
Originally Posted by Souki
(I'm new to having curly hair. Before this, it was long with a weak, limp wave and frizz. So, I'm trying to learn about it.)

Why a vinegar rinse? That sounds harsh to me and irritating to one's skin and eyes.
hey ! not at all ! it is super super amazing ! for me it works, my hair are really smoother, only I dont know if there are any reverse or bad effects using it everytime you wash your hair.. one friend told me she was using it twice a week and she got dry hair aroung 2 months, but her hair are not curly.. I think, I'll use it like twice a month you should give it a try at least once, apple cider vinegar (not any vinegar) is very good for your hair, and also for your health

10 Ways to Use Apple Cider Vinegar for Hair | Babble
Permanently dyed hair especially if it's lighter than your natural colour will leave you with hair that is drier and more porous. This would explain why it's prone to being frizzy. Putting vinegar on it, which is acidic and not at the pH level of hair, while it will remove some of the o will actually make the hair drier. This explains why your friend ended up with dry hair.

I wouldn't be surprised if you have a build up problem.

You should use a clarifying shampoo - one with no silicones- and it says clarifying on it. (Sorry I don't live in your country so can't recommend any products)

You should condition your hair before and afterwards.

Before hand use a pre-poo like olive oil, coconut oil, almond oil or castor oil. You need to leave this oil on your hair for at least 12 hours to get the maximum benefit. This is so it can be absorbed into the hair shaft.
wow this is a lot 12 hours ?? what did i do to my haaair :'(
its not too much lighter I used to have this colour naturally when I was a child..I will follow what you said, and give you feedbacks. For the apple cider vinegar, should I totally forget about it ?? it didnt make my hair dry..for now..
Anyway thank you for your advices !!!
before I go, I have a sulfate free shampoo is it enought ? there is no shampoo written clarifying on it here unfortunately...I have giovanni sulfate free and nude under naturals sulftate free ( and silicone free of course).
Also, what do you mean by build up problem ? that I cant define my curls, or I cant get rid off the build up ??

Last edited by Souki; 02-20-2015 at 10:46 AM.
wow this is a lot 12 hours ?? what did i do to my haaair :'(
Originally Posted by Souki
It's nothing to do with your hair it's the length of time some scientists who have studied hair have found it takes to ensure the oil molecules have penetrated your hair as much as possible.

You can easily do it over night and wrap your hair in a satin/silk scarf/bonnet to prevent it going on your pillows. So while you may not have it on for 12 hours you will have it on for around 8 hours.

The amount of oil you need is this much linky

Another article on penetrating oils is here

its not too much lighter I used to have this colour naturally when I was a child..I will follow what you said, and give you feedbacks.
Originally Posted by Souki
I know lots of people of all ethnicities who had lighter hair as a child. It doesn't mean much now they are adults as they have to use permanent hair dye/bleach to get the same colour. Permanent hair dye/bleach damages hair.

You probably have to do the pre-poo and deep conditioner routine a few times. Though you should only need to use the particular clarifying shampoo once so the next few times use your normal shampoo. Some people do it twice a week until their hair isn't as dry then go down to once a month.

If olive oil doesn't work then you can try a whole range of other oils. Just have a look in your food stores as well has pharmacy to see what oils are available.

For the apple cider vinegar, should I totally forget about it ?? it didnt make my hair dry..for now..
Anyway thank you for your advices !!!
Originally Posted by Souki
Some people on here love using apple cider vinegar but if you hair is dry I would avoid using anything that is much more acidic or alkali than the hair's pH level as it would make it drier.

before I go, I have a sulfate free shampoo is it enought ? there is no shampoo written clarifying on it here unfortunately...I have giovanni sulfate free and nude under naturals sulftate free ( and silicone free of course).
Originally Posted by Souki
Most clarifying shampoos I've found have sulphates in them. They are very harsh so you only want to use one very occasionally.

This is why I mentioned pre-pooing before and deep conditioning afterwards otherwise if you use one you will end up with extremely dry hair.

Also, what do you mean by build up problem ? that I cant define my curls, or I cant get rid off the build up ??
Originally Posted by Souki
Some product ingredients don't wash of your hair when you shampoo the same way water insoluble silicones don't. They then build up on your hair shaft leaving you with drier, duller and harder to style hair including hair that refuses to curl.
thank you for your precious tips ! Ill follow your advices.. I dont really have greasy hair or too much build up so I hope only a sulfate free shampoo twice a month will be okay ? for clarifying Ive heard that rhassoul can work as a clarifying shampoo, Ill try at least once I get it.
Thank you Blueblood )
hey, I was thinking about something, if all the no silicone process is done from cleansing to conditionning, is it really harmfull to use them in styling ?? because if we cleanse with a shampoo like twice a month, the silicone from styling should be eliminated.. isnt it logic?

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