View Poll Results: What are you doing about flu shots this year?
Flu shots, shmu shots! I'll take my chances. Besides, getting the flu means time off from work! 23 40.35%
I can't get a flu shot due to medical conditions 1 1.75%
Already got mine 15 26.32%
I plan on getting one 15 26.32%
I'm relying on homeopathic products, like Airborne 3 5.26%
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Flu Shot Nightmare

The poll is there because I'm extremely curious about how people handle the flu season. I'd really appreciate it if you voted, even if you think my embarrassing story sucks. I don't really expect to get any actual comments.

Anyway, on to the story. I tend to be really flinchy when I'm "punctured." When I'm getting blood drawn, this can mean 5 or 6 misplaced pricks before they finally hit a vein (sorry if you're squeamish). So, I close my eyes and try to relax whenever I get an injection. Right after I got my flu shot on Thursday, the nurse yelled, "Are you with me?!" in my ear. Extremely confused and somewhat annoyed, I opened my eyes. "What?" "ARE YOU STILL WITH ME!" "Yes?" I was handed a juicebox, and the nurse started escorting me to a chair in the corner. Everyone was staring at me, and one woman was clearly talking about me on her cell phone . I finally realized what was going on. "Um, I'm not going to faint, if that's what you're thinking." "Of course, ma'am. Just sit here for a few minutes." At that point, I was pretty angry--it's not like I had turned gray or anything. What the heck was the nurse thinking? So I tugged my arm away from her, and walked out with a free juicebox--score!!


Oh, and by the way--a flu shot cannot give you the flu. A dead virus is used. It does take 2 weeks for the flu shot to take effect, so you could develop the flu from prior exposure during that period. This information is straight from the waiver I signed, so if it's not true, there's a vast government conspiracy Also, if you're expecting and are worried about materials in the shot that could harm your baby, they have a special formulation for pregnant women.
I've never gotten a flu shot, and I've never gotten the flu either. I won't be getting a flu shot, but might take my sons to get them. My youngest has gotten sick twice already from his playgroup, so I don't want him to pick up the flu there either.
We skip flu shots. We're all very healthy, no chronic illnesses, and I don't feel we're at risk even if we do happen to get the flu.

Plus, I don't necessarily trust the medical industry that makes the flu vaccine. It's just a crap shoot whether it will help anyway. The scientists guess on the the strains that they put in their brew each year. I don't want to be their guinea pigs when the risk doesn't seem to outweigh the potential benefits. I'm old enough to remember the "swine flu" debacle from the 1970s...where hundreds of people DIED from the vaccine. No thanks.

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I started getting the flu vaccine last year because I work with little kids. I've had flu before and couldn't get out of bed for a week and lost a lot or weight, I was very ill. Also my dad's had cancer so he's at a greater risk of getting flu and I don't want to possibly pass it on to him.

I hate it when people have bad colds and say it's flu, especially when they're out and about, if you have flu you cannot get up.
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Nope, no flu shot for me. I don't think I've ever had one. And none for my kids either. There are enough vaccines that we HAVE to get, I'm not going to sign up for ones that are offered to us. It's not about the actual shot, I'm okay with needles, but I don't need my kids exposed to any more vaccinations, and I don't see it necessary for me or my husband to get them.


My daughter never gets sick. She totally has her fathers immune system. They say kids get like 8-10 colds a year, or something like that. She's had a bad cold/virus MAYBE 3 times in over 2 years. And she's only had a little sniffle cold another 2 or 3 times.

But she's not in daycare, I run her from sick people, and she already knows how to rub the antibacterial gel into her hands when we get in the car.
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I have never gotten a flu shot-I can't remember the last time I had the flu
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Eilonwy, they may be having trouble finding veins big enough to stick a needle in. It happens to me, too.

There are vaccines I would get (e.g tetanus, etc), but that flu shot is shady, IMO.
Eilonwy, they may be having trouble finding veins big enough to stick a needle in. It happens to me, too.

In a healthy young woman, any decent phlebotomist should be able to draw blood with one stick, two at the most. 5-6 sticks is a bad phlebotomist...there are plenty of them out there.
I stopped getting normal illnesses like the flu years ago. I would never get a vaccine nor would my kids, if I had them. These are HORRIBLE (poison) to your health. Your best bet is to take good quality supplements daily and to have a cold formula (with echinacea, garlic, vitamin c, etc.) available when you feel just a touch of a scratch in your throat or are around others that are sick or for those in cold climates, throughout the winter. I was sick throughout my whole entire childhood and had bronchitis & UTIs constantly, among other things. Then I stopped taking meds and healed myself and I wasn't even eating healthy back then.
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Eilonwy, they may be having trouble finding veins big enough to stick a needle in. It happens to me, too.

In a healthy young woman, any decent phlebotomist should be able to draw blood with one stick, two at the most. 5-6 sticks is a bad phlebotomist...there are plenty of them out there.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
I've been told by quite a few of them that I have "skinny" or hard-to-find veins. You're saying this is BS?
No way. No how. Ain't gonna happen. I only do shots in life or death situations. Long story short - too many needles in one day.
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Eilonwy, they may be having trouble finding veins big enough to stick a needle in. It happens to me, too.
In a healthy young woman, any decent phlebotomist should be able to draw blood with one stick, two at the most. 5-6 sticks is a bad phlebotomist...there are plenty of them out there.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
I have the worst time with needles too and it's hard to find someone that knows what they're doing. Very rarely can I have a stress-free blood test, so I try to never get them anymore. The last time was so awful.
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Go Flu Shot! J/K but yes, I get the flu shot. No, I don't think it's evil or dangerous in any way. I think I had the flu once or twice when I was a kid, and it was awful. I don't think I'll actually get the flu, but I don't think I'll actually get tetanus or measles either, and I get those vaccines!

And again, the flu is the influenza virus, which is a totally different situation than taking echinacea or something if you start to feel a little scratch in your throat or a sniffle.
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I've been told by quite a few of them that I have "skinny" or hard-to-find veins. You're saying this is BS?

If you're a healthy young woman who has normal use of her arms, yeah, it's probably BS. I've seen lots of really crappy phlebotomists. There are no licensing or training requirements for phlebotomists...anyone off the street can be a phlebotomist with just a little OTJ training. To be fair, I've seen lots of great ones too, but "skinny" and "hard-to-find" veins are just silly non-medical excuses, which tells me that these particular vampires are going by what they see, not what they feel. When you can't see veins on the surface, and that's the case for most women, you gotta feel a little deeper. The veins are there...or your arms wouldn't be working too well...

I've done phlebotomy for a living, and taught it too.
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I've been told by quite a few of them that I have "skinny" or hard-to-find veins. You're saying this is BS?

If you're a healthy young woman who has normal use of her arms, yeah, it's probably BS. I've seen lots of really crappy phlebotomists. There are no licensing or training requirements for phlebotomists...anyone off the street can be a phlebotomist with just a little OTJ training. To be fair, I've seen lots of great ones too, but "skinny" and "hard-to-find" veins are just silly non-medical excuses, which tells me that these particular vampires are going by what they see, not what they feel. When you can't see veins on the surface, and that's the case for most women, you gotta feel a little deeper. The veins are there...or your arms wouldn't be working too well...

I've done phlebotomy for a living, and taught it too.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
This is great info! I am sooo ready for the next time I have to have blood drawn
This is great info! I am sooo ready for the next time I have to have blood drawn
Well, it may not help if there is no choice of who sticks you. Don't let someone stick you over and over and over. Request a new phlebotomist (although that may not help either, since one in the office probably taught the other one). When I have blood drawn, they get ONE stick. ONE. If they eff it up, there better be very good reason, and I'll let them have ONE more try. Everyone makes mistakes, even good vampires can have a bad day and blow a vein, stick the needle through the backside of the vein and cause infiltration, etc...but they damned well better not try to put the blame on me and my veins.
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This is great info! I am sooo ready for the next time I have to have blood drawn
Well, it may not help if there is no choice of who sticks you. Don't let someone stick you over and over and over. Request a new phlebotomist (although that may not help either, since one in the office probably taught the other one). When I have blood drawn, they get ONE stick. ONE. If they eff it up, there better be very good reason, and I'll let them have ONE more try. Everyone makes mistakes, even good vampires can have a bad day and blow a vein, stick the needle through the backside of the vein and cause infiltration, etc...but they damned well better not try to put the blame on me and my veins.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
I'm giving them 2 chances with careful instructions (I'm no expert but I can sound like one) then I'm out.
Mine are fairly easy to find. I haven't ever had too much of a problem w/ them sticking me, although sometimes they stick it wrong and they can't get the blood to flow, and they end up moving the needle around in cirlces, and pulling it out and in to try to get it to flow. My husband was there for it once and he nearly passed out.

When I came out of my appendectomy though, my left arm was this HUGE mass of black and blue. It was disgusting. I was like, man, what did they do to me when I was under?
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I'm giving them 2 chances with careful instructions (I'm no expert but I can sound like one) then I'm out.

LOL...I give plenty of pointers to someone who is about to stick me with a needle. I'll usually tell them: "Right arm, ante-cubital, I have a nice plump vein on the thumb side, feel it right here, give me your hand...see? nice and bouncy".

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