Black People Possibly Not As Smart As White People

According to this third year Harvard Law student and member of the Federalist Society.

http://abovethelaw.com/2010/04/hls-3...goes-national/

Also, it seems like the people at Above The Law are angry at the person who actually forwarded the email and angry at the BLSA for naming the originally letter writer?


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Just FYI, the Federalist Society is basically the law school version of College Republicans (the club, not just republican college students in general). Like the CRs, they tend to be racist, sexist, xenophobic. They have branches at many law schools, just like the ACLU.
Just FYI, the Federalist Society is basically the law school version of College Republicans. They have branches at many law schools, just like the ACLU.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy
I know.


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Honestly, I am not really suprised by this at all. I don't think one has to even subscribe to being a Republican or Conservative to have these views.

I think on average many white people feel the same way. They may not put it in the way she did but if asked in a certain setting where the ish wouldn't blow up on them.. I think MANY white folks would say, "Yeah I do think white people are usually smarter than blacks."

I actually think many blacks have bought into it too especially in America.

I think the reasons for this supposed disparity is really because a lot of blacks do not have or get a chance to have the same educational or economic advantages that whites attain.

So it can come off like blacks are just not as smart. I noticed..and I don't mean any disrespect to any group of people so I hope I don't offend anyone and if I do, I am sorry in advance..

BUT, I notice that when blacks get an opportunity at higher education they usually are REALLY on top of their game and many times out perform everyone else. Now I don't know if that it's because they feel like they have something to prove and work twice as hard or what but it is something I have observed.

I'm saying that to say that it's obvious that blacks have just as much intellectual potential as whites if given the right opportunities and circumstances. But the simple fact is a lot of black (at least in the USA) don't even get the darn chance!

So I don't think the woman said anything that a lot of people don't already think anyway...given I am sure she didn't mean for this to create the firestorm it has...
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Typical.
Yikes. That was just not a smart move to send an email stating that opinion. The legal industry is a small world, so this student has probably screwed up his/her future.
According to the story you linked, the Federalist Society says neither woman is a member and this wasn't said at one of their events.
Honestly, I am not really suprised by this at all. I don't think one has to even subscribe to being a Republican or Conservative to have these views.

I think on average many white people feel the same way. They may not put it in the way she did but if asked in a certain setting where the ish wouldn't blow up on them.. I think MANY white folks would say, "Yeah I do think white people are usually smarter than blacks."


I actually think many blacks have bought into it too especially in America.

I think the reasons for this supposed disparity is really because a lot of blacks do not have or get a chance to have the same educational or economic advantages that whites attain.

So it can come off like blacks are just not as smart. I noticed..and I don't mean any disrespect to any group of people so I hope I don't offend anyone and if I do, I am sorry in advance..

BUT, I notice that when blacks get an opportunity at higher education they usually are REALLY on top of their game and many times out perform everyone else. Now I don't know if that it's because they feel like they have something to prove and work twice as hard or what but it is something I have observed.

I'm saying that to say that it's obvious that blacks have just as much intellectual potential as whites if given the right opportunities and circumstances. But the simple fact is a lot of black (at least in the USA) don't even get the darn chance!

So I don't think the woman said anything that a lot of people don't already think anyway...given I am sure she didn't mean for this to create the firestorm it has...
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi
Honestly...I think you and I think wa-aaay too much alike. LOL!

Some white people tend to relate to black folks best in a "teacher/student" type relationship...meaning they're teachers, and we're students. They don't think they can possibly learn anything of value from us, and they often think we don't know quite as much as they do. I see it all the time.

Now, I'm not saying ALL white people are that way, but many are.

I remember a white guy, who commented on a blog about Michelle Obama...Princeton/Harvard educated Michelle Obama. He was chuggin' away, at full speed, about how she "wasn't quite as bright as her peers"...based on no actual FACTS mind you, but just his "gut feelings" that there was no way possible she was as scholarly as her white classmates.

I know...that's just ONE example. But honestly, I don't think he's so alone in his thinking. The internet allows folks to clown incognito, and no one's the wiser.
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Honestly...I think you and I think wa-aaay too much alike. LOL!

Some white people tend to relate to black folks best in a "teacher/student" type relationship...meaning they're teachers, and we're students. They don't think they can possibly learn anything of value from us, and they often think we don't know quite as much as they do. I see it all the time.

Now, I'm not saying ALL white people are that way, but many are.

I remember a white guy, who commented on a blog about Michelle Obama...Princeton/Harvard educated Michelle Obama. He was chuggin' away, at full speed, about how she "wasn't quite as bright as her peers"...based on no actual FACTS mind you, but just his "gut feelings" that there was no way possible she was as scholarly as her white classmates.

I know...that's just ONE example. But honestly, I don't think he's so alone in his thinking. The internet allows folks to clown incognito, and no one's the wiser.
Originally Posted by NEA

LOL.. told you were must have been separated at birth! LOL!

And I've heard that SAME foolishness about Mrs. Obama. It's clear to me that these people are haters and just trying to base this stuff on her race.

Check this out.. I have a friend.. He's a very educated published psychologist. He told me that he was having a discussion with his other very educated well to do peers and some how this very subject came up.. about blacks being less smart than whites.

He said the general consensus was that whites are definitely more intelligent than blacks. He said he felt more it was blacks don't get the same opportunity that a lot of whites get and expressed that to the group... And then out of the blue, a man turns to him and says, "Well.. personally I think it's you Jews that are the smartest.. you people run everything!"

My friend said he was absolutely shell shocked because here he is thinking.. " But I'm white!" I told my friend.. "Oh so NOW you know how it feels don't you.. TOLD YOU!"

He and I had been having sort good hearted heated debates about blacks, Jews, white privledge, etc. I was trying to explain to his overly educated dumb a$$ that certain white people still don't view Jews as exactly white... among other things.

Like I said.. there are a WHOLE BUNCH of white folks..educated and non that think black people couldn't possibly be as intelligent as them.
survival of the fittest is the game, not who's got the highest SAT score.

here is the problem. how are we measuring intelligence? by IQ tests? they don't really measure intelligence, they measure other things like class and income.

i'd argue in the universal more worldly tally of things, IQ is only important if you are able to breed more successfully than others.

if high school drop out fuquan in jail had 15 babies with 13 different baby mamas, while harvard law grad has 1 baby with his wife, i think fuquan has out accomplished mr. harvard.
hi IQ does not mean that you will be rich, handsome, successful or loved.

a big dick trumps his test scores.

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I think on average many white people feel the same way. They may not put it in the way she did but if asked in a certain setting where the ish wouldn't blow up on them.. I think MANY white folks would say, "Yeah I do think white people are usually smarter than blacks."
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi


I don't think that's fair.

Sure, there are lots of jerky white people, but I think they are in the minority. I don't think the "average" white person thinks whites are smarter than blacks.
BUT, I notice that when blacks get an opportunity at higher education they usually are REALLY on top of their game and many times out perform everyone else. Now I don't know if that it's because they feel like they have something to prove and work twice as hard or what but it is something I have observed.
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi
Well, that's a stereotype, too.

As for the racist email, I'm kind of shocked that the linked source blames the person who outed the racist. Huh? This, specifically, got my goat (a "tipster" quoted in the linked article):

It’s pretty sad that a short and blunt conversation could have taught DNA about the false notion of biological race, but instead those involved decided to take off on the road of the destructive politics of personal destruction.
Yay, it's the old "if only you black people would teach racists not to be racist" argument! It's an unpaid part-time job. I'm sorry but, if a 3L hasn't figured out by now that arguing that black people are genetically intellectually inferior to white people is racist, I doubt a "short and blunt conversation" is going to convince her! She absolutely should be called out and publicly shamed if she's on her way to a federal clerkship. It's not as if she's been hired by some prestigious architectural firm or something; her racist opinions will affect people's lives.
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who cares???
any working person knows that pen and paper intelligence has little to do with real life success!

I don't think that's fair.

Sure, there are lots of jerky white people, but I think they are in the minority. I don't think the "average" white person thinks whites are smarter than blacks.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Well RCW, perhaps in some eyes it's not very fair.. but I personally do believe it's accurate.

And as far a jerky people.. goodness.. they come in all races. LOL!

I don't think that's fair.

Sure, there are lots of jerky white people, but I think they are in the minority. I don't think the "average" white person thinks whites are smarter than blacks.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Well RCW, perhaps in some eyes it's not very fair.. but I personally do believe it's accurate.

And as far a jerky people.. goodness.. they come in all races. LOL!
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi

So, you're prejudiced, then. Glad you're so comfortable with it.
"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.
According to the story you linked, the Federalist Society says neither woman is a member and this wasn't said at one of their events.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Yeah, that's what they say. That's not the buzz around here (the Harvard community) thinks that what the Federalist Society says isn't accurate. I guess time will tell.


Obamacare is not a blueprint for socialism. You're thinking of the New Testament. ~~ John Fugelsang



So..... stupid people can get into Harvard, then? Good to know!

Oh, wait... I knew that anyway. Never mind.

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So, you're prejudiced, then. Glad you're so comfortable with it.
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
Hmm.. I don't know how what I said in this instance would make me neccessarily prejudice. I just expressed how I think many whites feel in reguards to their intelligence in comparison to blacks.

I know I am bigoted in some sense though on certain issues. I think most people are they just won't admit it just like most will go all around robin hood's barn to say they do not have racist tendencies or opinions because they think that will sit better with the group.

I guess I don't play the go along to get along game. And I understand how that doesn't sit well with a lot of folks either.
So, you're prejudiced, then. Glad you're so comfortable with it.
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
Hmm.. I don't know how what I said in this instance would make me neccessarily prejudice. I just expressed how I think many whites feel in reguards to their intelligence in comparison to blacks.

I know I am bigoted in some sense though on certain issues. I think most people are they just won't admit it just like most will go all around robin hood's barn to say they do not have racist tendencies or opinions because they think that will sit better with the group.

I guess I don't play the go along to get along game. And I understand how that doesn't sit well with a lot of folks either.
Originally Posted by Marah Mizrahi
Okay, whatever.
"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.

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