Tell me about being a nurse...(and also my issues...beware)

Slinky,
I honestly can say that I have never seen a person so ugly, they deserve to be made fun of.
I can't imagine an entire office making fun of someone, that is unacceptable.
Sorry for that. Hugs.
Dear Slinky -

I am terribly sorry for everything you've had to endure -- I hope you can get a job you deserve that will enable you to fix the problems that have been plaguing you. No one deserves to experience the things you've described, you truly are a strong person for surviving it. On a perhaps unrelated note, I'd sue their asses for emotional damage and discrimination and use the money toward surgery.

I've never been a nurse, but I've spent quite a lot of time in hospitals and can simply say I am *so* grateful for those who choose the profession. What a debt we all owe to these individuals!

I wish you the best of luck with whatever you choose to do.
I don't know what would be worse...the stress and responsibility of nursing, or the stress of not being able to make ends meet for the rest of my life...combined with the stress of doing work that is not even useful...If I'm not doing useful work, or contributing something useful to society, I have absolutely nothing going for me.

That's really it. I have absolutely nothing going for me, and there is an EXCELLENT chance that I never will. Me working in an office for the rest of my life pushing papers, being totally disposable...would make me be a total drain on society, waste of space forever. That's the way I'm going right now. I'm good for nothing.
Originally Posted by slinky1
Slinky, I haven't read all of the posts so I maybe repeating...but how about volunteering? You could volunteer at a nursing home to see how it is working with older people. Also, do hospitals still have candy stripers? I bet they have a different name by now. That will also get you in the hospital setting.

But volunteering...anywhere...can help you feel better about contributing to society AND maybe lead to a different job.

I wish you well....and don't be so down on yourself. You don't have to be a Pollyanna, but being so negative can actually keep people away from you.

Have you tried looking for office work with different companies? Join some organizations geared toward women helping other women?

Good luck!
Life shrinks or expands according to one's courage. Anais Nin
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So the chemo pill could have given her the leukemia...didn't know that.
Originally Posted by slinky1
Anyone know anything about this
That's terrifying to me
So the chemo pill could have given her the leukemia...didn't know that.
Originally Posted by slinky1
Anyone know anything about this
That's terrifying to me
Originally Posted by WileECoyote - Daddy's grl
I have read my response over and over regarding cancer and transfusions. I don't understand how Slinky came up with this interpretation from my response.

I was explaining why people get transfusions while going thru cancer treatment and that Leukemia is different than other cancers.

She commented her relative had been treated for cancer, received transfusions and was fine.

Then the relative was diagnosed with Leukemia and died within a few months.

Anyway, I was explaining that depending on what type of leukemia it can progress very quickly.
Leukemia is different than other forms of cancer.
I think slinky was questioning if her relative got better care with the original cancer.

Then bad care when diagnosed with Leukemia.
She was asking if the blood was better with the original cancer or if older patients don't get quality care.

I don't know...

Anyway, hope I cleared it up.
So the chemo pill could have given her the leukemia...didn't know that.
Originally Posted by slinky1
Anyone know anything about this
That's terrifying to me
Originally Posted by WileECoyote - Daddy's grl
I think Slinky misunderstood.
Chemo attacks WBC and RBC's (because that's what chemo does...attacks rapidly dividing cells). If your RBC's drops too low causing anemia you'll possibly need a blood transfusion. If your WBC's drop to low they'll alter your chemo dose or hold it. That's why they do frequent blood/lab draws to monitor what's going on. But I'm not an expert on cancer or chemo by any means...I'm sure others who have experience know more.
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The fact that the leukemia progessed very quickly was not the issue for me...or why cancer patients get transfusions.

I just wondered if a person could possibly get leukemia from receiving "bad" blood...If a person was in remission or something for years, and they gave blood...and the person who got the blood developed leukemia as well. But, like I said, to my knowledge, there is no way to distinguish blood that could be risky to give, and pure, "good" blood...so it isn't like my relative was delibrately given bad blood because of her age.

The part about bad blood wasn't addressed, just the nature of cancer and leukemia...which wasn't really my concern.

I'm sure if anyone does make a comment about the blood, it would be, "Everyone takes all the precautions necessary...it would be highly unlikely...blah...blah...blah." So I guess the conclusion I had drawn about the leukemia was pretty dumb.
slinky, you must live in los angeles or miami, where people are judged harshly by their appearance. girl, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. i'm not married and most men do not find me attractive. i'm alone and everyone seems to be married and happy. i'm broke and i struggle financially. i can really relate to your posts. i just think you've worked in a horrible environment. i too am considering nursing as a career. i'm already in research but in my field without a PhD i run the risk of being let go sooner or later. i think nursing would be a good change. i actually work at a university/hospital. i don't see beautiful nurses running around. everyone looks quite average and people really don't care about such superficial things. you are judged by your ability, not your looks. i'm sure you look just fine but the people you work with are probably evil. forget them!
Slinky, I think you really need some therapy for your self-esteem. I think you also need to realize that someone isn't going to care what you look like when you are administering care to them while they are sick. I can honestly say that I don't remember what any nurse that I have had looks like any time that I have seen one, except for the nurse at my general practioner.
Slinky, I'm not going to say that I know what you're going through, because I don't. But I do know that you don't *need* to be going through this. There are a bunch of random people on this message board who've never met you, but care enough about you to offer their personal experiences and advice. And I have to say, there are a lot of people in my area who have congenital physical disabilities, complete with atypical facial features. This goes beyond a crooked jaw. And you know what? Everyone here is treated with normal courtesy and respect. You don't need to think of perpetual disrespect as your lot in life.

If you did go to see someone, you probably wouldn't have to take pills or anything. That's a pretty common concern. There are a lot of people who don't like that idea, even though medications can help restore normal thoughts, rather than clouding them. But it really seems like you would benefit from having someone to talk to, because it sounds like you don't. A good therapist *will* understand what you're going through, and will be able to empathize with you. And going to see a therapist/psychologist/psychiatrist or whathaveyou isn't like the guys from Queer Eye ganging up on you with empty compliments (which is how you seem to be characterizing therapy in your posts). It's not Dr. Phil with a homespun, feel-good, all-too-pat message. You might have to do a little shopping around to find a good therapist, but that's a very worthwhile investment, just like going back to school or changing careers.

I know that what I'm writing is just a few lines of text out there on the internet, and it probably won't influence you in any way. But just like everyone else who's posted, I believe that the tiny chance that this could encourage you, is worth my time.
i don't see beautiful nurses running around. everyone looks quite average and people really don't care about such superficial things. you are judged by your ability, not your looks.
Originally Posted by frau
Something like this has been said a few times now. Do you really think it's all that different in office jobs? There a LOTS of unattractive people in the office I work in, and in other offices I interact with. But that doesn't affect how people interpret how they are doing there job! It may be different if we are talking about people who are the "face of the company", like phamaceutical sales reps or something, but for in general, I wouldn't expect attractiveness to be any less important in nursing than it is in an office job.
"I don't know! I don't know why I did it, I don't know why I enjoyed it, and I don't know why I'll do it again!" -BART SIMPSON
It seems to me that you are the one putting the importance on looks, not others. I tend to do the same thing, but it's not emotionally healthy for either one of us.

If people were that rude in your old job, I hope you cited every time something happened, every time you talked to HR/management, and every time they ignored you. I'm pretty sure you would have quite a legal case in your hands.
i don't see beautiful nurses running around. everyone looks quite average and people really don't care about such superficial things. you are judged by your ability, not your looks.
Originally Posted by frau
Something like this has been said a few times now. Do you really think it's all that different in office jobs? There a LOTS of unattractive people in the office I work in, and in other offices I interact with. But that doesn't affect how people interpret how they are doing there job! It may be different if we are talking about people who are the "face of the company", like phamaceutical sales reps or something, but for in general, I wouldn't expect attractiveness to be any less important in nursing than it is in an office job.
Originally Posted by Who Me?
How I understand it is that slinky believes that nursing is a more worthwhile profession - not that nursing necessarily puts less of a value on looks (I personally don't see how either environment puts a lot of emphasis on looks). She'll be able to make more money to get her surgery done sooner, while helping others. Something else that she may or may not have thought about is that being in the medical field will bring you into contact with surgeons who understand her condition and could at least give some advice. The medical field is a lot like the legal one in that once you get in with the right people, it gives you more opportunities. Lawyers I worked for offered to help their employees out with legal situations all the time.

Slinky, I get what you're saying about therapy and pills - that they're not going to change your situation, but it's your reaction to the criticism that is the issue. I don't believe that your response to it is natural or normal. You should be optimistic about surgery, and about the career that will get you there - from what I understand, it's not a permanent condition. It's a hard road to get where you need to be, but you have to be strong to get there.
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I didn't want to post in this topic again, but...

It isn't like I go around and talk about how ugly I am all the time to people. But, at the same time, because I don't mention it...people feel like they have to tell me so that I do know.

Seriously, most people have no clue what I think...They just see me as a thin person with better clothes than a lot of people have, with hair that people complement, and they think I'm totally clueless that I have an ugly face. I know because I've overheard what people have said...things like, "She thinks she's beauuutful," or "Does she know? I don't think she knows..." Some people go on an on about how a good face is so important...just to throw me hints about why my life is so bad, I guess. All this is what kills me.

I walk around with my head down or my hair in my face all the time to minimize comments, but people don't even get why I'm doing that. So many people lack emotional intelligence and miss social cues completely.

Argh. So I bumped this pointless conversation again.
you know what, slinky? i dont think that anyone has the right or reason to make you feel like you need to walk around with your head down. you are a beautiful (yes, beautiful!) woman who deserves to be around people who respect you and truly see how totally sweet you are! I am sickend that people make you feel this way! yuck!

i dont know your personal situation, but i think you should give anyone who makes you feel unworthy the finger, (figuratively, of course), and keep your head held high knowing that you are a better and bigger person! have some confidence, love! everyone here knows how gorgeous you are as a person, and i think you should accept it too! now go kick some butt!
If Im honest I have to tell you I still read fairy-tales and I like them best of all ~Audrey Hepburn~
date a black man. i know that sounds weird, but i think that will help improve your self-esteem.
date a black man. i know that sounds weird, but i think that will help improve your self-esteem.
Originally Posted by frau
I guess that's a cheaper alternative to therapy or nursing school.

Since this thread is about being a nurse, I have a question. My cousin is a freshman in college, and is trying to decide b/w nursing and early childhood education. She's outgoing and loves people, but she's not very book smart. She's socially smart. Is it true that nursing is pretty difficult? The comments from people here lead me to believe that it's not, but I've heard that there is a lot of science involved. I'm not sure if that's for the 2-year or 4-year, or both. I just knew students in the nursing program at my college that had a heck of a time, but I think that's mainly because it was tiring. They would do a lot of these lab instructional classes.

My cousin is gravitating toward nursing because she thinks she'll make more $$ and there's a greater demand, but she's unsure about the classes. She's got various people on both sides trying to influence her. I have no idea what to tell her since I've never had nursing or education classes.
It's only "difficult" if one doesn't understand the material. I don't think we can say that nursing school is "easy" though...because nurses certainly are expected to know a lot of complicated science and medical fundamentals. You don't want a non-book-smart nurse, do you?
date a black man. i know that sounds weird, but i think that will help improve your self-esteem.
Originally Posted by frau
I guess that's a cheaper alternative to therapy or nursing school.
Originally Posted by Kenzie_06
lol! yeah, bad advice. sorry slinky!

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