View Poll Results: What do you prefer?
Mutt 34 73.91%
Pure breed 12 26.09%
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Mutt or Pure Breed dog?

Just don't help keep those horrible pet store/puppy mills in business...whichever you decide.
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There's a Petsmart near me that has cats and dogs, but they're "last stop" animals. They're dogs who were at shelters, but didn't get adopted by the the euthanizing deadline. Some group gathers them up and takes them to the Petsmart's last stop. The animals are well cared for and each gets a little write up card on his/her window with a clear explanation that if she/he isn't adopted there aren't more chances.

So, I suggest people check at their local PetSmart. If I hadn't just adopted Phoebe, I would have taken one of the PetSmart cats or kittens.
It is terrible that there are dogs that are put down even if they are healthy good dog. It hurts too much to think about.

There's a Petsmart near me that has cats and dogs, but they're "last stop" animals. They're dogs who were at shelters, but didn't get adopted by the the euthanizing deadline. Some group gathers them up and takes them to the Petsmart's last stop. The animals are well cared for and each gets a little write up card on his/her window with a clear explanation that if she/he isn't adopted there aren't more chances.

So, I suggest people check at their local PetSmart. If I hadn't just adopted Phoebe, I would have taken one of the PetSmart cats or kittens.
Originally Posted by Discgirl
The PetSmart in our area has adoption day nearly every weekend. The local animal shelter brings cats and dogs there. I don't think they are "last chance" but it's a good way to reach families that might not go to a shelter.
You're right...Petsmart is one of the exceptions to the pet store rule--thanks for mentioning them. The organization for which I volunteer does monthly adoption events at local Petsmarts, and the pets available for adoption there are all rescues (they could in fact, sometimes be from puppy mills, but they would have been rescued from a mill that had thankful been shut down, rather than purchased and sold for profit), so it's probably a good place to consider. I was talking about pet stores that literally "stock" puppies and kittens, as if they were products on a shelf, rather than living creatures. It's really a deplorable practice, and the more people that choose not to patronize pet stores that sell puppies and kittens, the more chance we'll have of ending it for good.
Or Australian Kelpie. (Another great dog!) It comes in different colors and that red color of your dog is one of them.
Ohhh could be --- I've never heard of that breed before !! Off to research...
There was a pet supply store near me that also stocked puppies and kittens along with rabbits, birds and small animals (hamsters, etc.). I'm not sure what happened, but they don't have puppies and kittens anymore. I HATE that the other animals are still there, though.

The DC Shelter isn't a no-kill shelter. They just don't have the space to house the animals indefinitely. When I went there to get Phoebe, I was really impressed. They knew all of the animals well personality-wise for the most part. (My Phoebe hadn't been there long, but they told me she was sweet and lovie. Which she is. She's also a little pig.) They also had a whole list of off-site adoption events posted. They need better conditions for what they do.

Anyway, I voted mutt. I think shelters are worth checking out right now for both types of dogs (or cats). A worker at the shelter told me they've had a pretty good increase in animals coming in b/c so many military people are getting deployed and can't take their animals with them and don't know when they'll be back.
Just don't help keep those horrible pet store/puppy mills in business...whichever you decide.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
Yes they are awful. I can't believe people still buy pets from those places. My SO's family's dog is from a pet store. They were going to put him down just because no one had bought him yet so he was growing past the adorable cuddly puppy phase. So they bought him and saved his life--but that means their money will help make sure this abysmal treatment of dogs continues.

And it's awful that nice, healthy dogs get put down but a lot of shelters don't have many other options. They are underfunded, understaffed and overpopulated with unwanted pets. That's why I would always feel guilty if I bought another pet from a breeder. The way I see it, there will always be people to buy purebred puppies and kittens from breeders, but if I buy one, that's one less animal at the pound that gets a happy ending.

You're right...Petsmart is one of the exceptions to the pet store rule--thanks for mentioning them. The organization for which I volunteer does monthly adoption events at local Petsmarts, and the pets available for adoption there are all rescues (they could in fact, sometimes be from puppy mills, but they would have been rescued from a mill that had thankful been shut down, rather than purchased and sold for profit), so it's probably a good place to consider. I was talking about pet stores that literally "stock" puppies and kittens, as if they were products on a shelf, rather than living creatures. It's really a deplorable practice, and the more people that choose not to patronize pet stores that sell puppies and kittens, the more chance we'll have of ending it for good.
Originally Posted by kjean2
Yeah. I completely forgot about Petsmart too for adopting dogs and cats. I really don't like Petsmart, but I forgot they did help to place dogs and cats for adoption, which is great. But for any other animals they sell like birds, hamsters, fish, etc., be careful 'cause sometimes those aren't that well taken care of and wind up becoming sick.
"It's a matter of taking the side of the weak against the strong, something the best people have always done."- Harriet Beecher Stowe
Just don't help keep those horrible pet store/puppy mills in business...whichever you decide.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
Yes they are awful. I can't believe people still buy pets from those places. My SO's family's dog is from a pet store. They were going to put him down just because no one had bought him yet so he was growing past the adorable cuddly puppy phase. So they bought him and saved his life--but that means their money will help make sure this abysmal treatment of dogs continues.

And it's awful that nice, healthy dogs get put down but a lot of shelters don't have many other options. They are underfunded, understaffed and overpopulated with unwanted pets. That's why I would always feel guilty if I bought another pet from a breeder. The way I see it, there will always be people to buy purebred puppies and kittens from breeders, but if I buy one, that's one less animal at the pound that gets a happy ending.
Originally Posted by iris427
Yup.
"It's a matter of taking the side of the weak against the strong, something the best people have always done."- Harriet Beecher Stowe
I put mutt b/c my first dog (we put her down on March 1st) looked like a pure bred yellow lab, but had pointer in her. She was the most awesome dog, she didn't pay attention to other dogs, she never had to be on a leash, and would stay with you, didn't get underfoot, and listened when you told her to do something (sit, stay, go see frankie (my bro)). Aww I miss her. My dog now is a pure breed, Chocolate Lab, male. He's a goofy moron, but can figure his way out of any situation. We had to twist tie the sides of the kennel he slept in as a puppy b/c he could get out of it when it was locked. ~~jax
2c or 3a Cut most of my hair off in July '12 and am working on regrowing it.
<on soapbox>
a rescue, be it mutt or purebred.

If people had to help county shelter workers euthanize animals on kill day, I don't think people would keep buying animals.

It's not the shelter's falut, county shelters have to take every animal that comes through their doors. No-Kill shelters don't work. It just isn't reality.
There are way too many homeless animals, and not enough homes.
No-Kills end up warehousing animals that are either unadoptable due to behavioral problems that can't be worked out, or they let animals that should be put down due to health reasons, just languish...
Some of the no-kill shelters, while the people have good hearts, they get in way over their head and start to become hoarders. And pray you never see THAT type of situation, it is heartwrenching.

The best thing anyone can do is to adopt a homeless animal from a shelter or breed rescue. Some people are scared thinking that animals from shelters are all whack jobs. So not true. Rehabilitation works in most cases. So many wonderful, wonderful animals sitting in shelters.

Don't support the breeding industry or puppy mills. period.

Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
I say this having BOUGHT my dog from a backyard breeder 12 years ago. NEVER AGAIN.

There is NO SHAME in ignorance, however there is shame when you are made to be aware of your ignorance and you do nothing to educate yourself.

Don't shop, adopt.

<off soapbox>
and for the love of God,
SPAY/NEUTER YOUR PETS!
Don't support the breeding industry or puppy mills. period.

Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
I say this having BOUGHT my dog from a backyard breeder 12 years ago. NEVER AGAIN.

There is NO SHAME in ignorance, however there is shame when you are made to be aware of your ignorance and you do nothing to educate yourself.

I don't think there's any shame in buying a purebred dog from a reputable breeder, if I'm looking for specific characteristics in a pet and am willing to pay for it. Just because so many other people mistreat their animals, doesn't obligate me to only take their often-ill-bred castoffs as pets.
I don't think there's any shame in buying a purebred dog from a reputable breeder, if I'm looking for specific characteristics in a pet and am willing to pay for it. Just because so many other people mistreat their animals, doesn't obligate me to only take their often-ill-bred castoffs as pets.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves

But you are part of society, are you not?
Of course, you're not obligated...but I don't see how you can have such a funk attitude about this.

I said there was shame in being made aware of your IGNORANCE and not doing anything about it to EDUCATE yourself. Don't twist my words.

It's too bad you see shelter animals as "often ill-bred castoffs". you are really missing out on some truly wonderful animals.

Your kind of attitude towards this problem only makes things worse and causes the ignorance to spread. In the end, it is the animals that suffer.

THAT is a shame.
But you are part of society, are you not?
Of course, you're not obligated...but I don't see how you can have such a funk attitude about this.

I said there was shame in being made aware of your IGNORANCE and not doing anything about it to EDUCATE yourself. Don't twist my words.

It's too bad you see shelter animals as "often ill-bred castoffs". you are really missing out on some truly wonderful animals.

Your kind of attitude towards this problem only makes things worse and causes the ignorance to spread. In the end, it is the animals that suffer.

THAT is a shame.

Shelter dogs often are ill-bred. And they're definitely cast-off, or they wouldn't be there. They are often the result of puppy mill and backyard breedings, the very thing you are railing against. That doesn't mean there aren't good/healthy/sound dogs there, of course there are. But the chances of me finding what I want in a dog in a shelter are virtually nil. If I use a reputable breeder...one who only breeds their stock on a limited basis, and only after a dog is 2 or more years old, one who gets health checks and follows up on the health of every puppy produced, one who has studied the lineage and only has conducts a breeding to better the breed in general, and one who will always take a puppy back if the adoption doesn't work out... that is not ignorance or shameful. That's responsible breeding, and responsible dog-ownership. I assure you, I am NOT ignorant about dogs or breeding practices. Sounds like you are though.
Your kind of attitude towards this problem only makes things worse and causes the ignorance to spread. In the end, it is the animals that suffer.

If we were to adopt every single shelter pet...wouldn't that just encourage more puppymill and backyard breeding? Perhaps your ideal method might actually be encouraging the animals to suffer.
Shelter dogs often are ill-bred. And they're definitely cast-off, or they wouldn't be there. They are often the result of puppy mill and backyard breedings, the very thing you are railing against. That doesn't mean there aren't good/healthy/sound dogs there, of course there are. But the chances of me finding what I want in a dog in a shelter are virtually nil. If I use a reputable breeder...one who only breeds their stock on a limited basis, and only after a dog is 2 or more years old, one who gets health checks and follows up on the health of every puppy produced, one who has studied the lineage and only has conducts a breeding to better the breed in general, and one who will always take a puppy back if the adoption doesn't work out... that is not ignorance or shameful. That's responsible breeding, and responsible dog-ownership. I assure you, I am NOT ignorant about dogs or breeding practices. Sounds like you are though.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Where do you get your data?
Do you realize that if you do not spay/neuter, the chances for breast and testicular cancer are much, much higher?
People are not doing animals any favors by breeding them.

When is the last time you visited a dog rescue facility? What exactly are you looking for in a dog, where you are willing to look past tens of thousands of wonderful animals based on the fact that the dogs mother and father are not the same breed? Do you not understand that mixed breed dogs are often times more healthy than purebred? Because overbreeding has caused genetic mutations?

The percentages of shelter animals that are "the result of puppy mills or backyard breeding" are actually lower than you would think. This is a throwaway society, people give up their animals for the strangest reasons, animals in shelters are seized from hoarder situations, from abuse cases, from neglect cases, abandonment, the list goes on and on. You really need to do your research.
If we were to adopt every single shelter pet...wouldn't that just encourage more puppymill and backyard breeding? Perhaps your ideal method might actually be encouraging the animals to suffer.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves

That was a pretty ignorant comment.
You should spend some time in an animal rescue facility.
Where do you get your data?
Do you realize that if you do not spay/neuter, the chances for breast and testicular cancer are much, much higher?
People are not doing animals any favors by breeding them.

When is the last time you visited a dog rescue facility? What exactly are you looking for in a dog, where you are willing to look past tens of thousands of wonderful animals based on the fact that the dogs mother and father are not the same breed? Do you not understand that mixed breed dogs are often times more healthy than purebred? Because overbreeding has caused genetic mutations?

The percentages of shelter animals that are "the result of puppy mills or backyard breeding" are actually lower than you would think. This is a throwaway society, people give up their animals for the strangest reasons, animals in shelters are seized from hoarder situations, from abuse cases, from neglect cases, abandonment, the list goes on and on. You really need to do your research.

You are obviously letting your emotions run your argument, which seems to be "Oh, the poor poor dogs...lets spay/neuter every quality animal and only let the dirtbags breed and then we'll adopt them all as pets and live happily ever after". Please...

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