Potentially heated topic about white women...

GB, I'm not trying to validate its veracity, I'm just a little stunned that this particular sterotype, which is what we are taling about here -- is a great shocker. the 'to whom' doesn't matter. I've also heard that our white counterparts tend to be more "freaky" or open to being freaky.

Geeky's point, however, makes sense and I can see it not being discussed within the community.
Originally Posted by FreeCurls
It's not discussed I think because most white people don't have anything to compare themselves to and are not exposed to what minorities think of them, at least not to the extent that minorities are exposed to the opinions and thoughts of the majority.
Originally Posted by geeky
EXACTLY.
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Except in cases where there's a strong stereotype to the contrary (like the supposed impotence of Asian men), I think there are a lot of stereotypes about people not of your race or nationality making better lovers.


What I think is more interesting than a stereotype I've never heard of, is that no one is getting angry about this thread since white women don't generally have to worry about these stereotypes doing them harm.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy
So, being promiscuous and seeing that white women are seen as "sluts" doesn't do us harm?
Being overweight or non attractive and not getting promoted due to those things aren't doing us harm?

Do those things make me angry to think that since I am white, I must be promiscuous? Sure, but knowing that I am NOT like that, I guess it's not making me angry. I don't think that it's true, but I also don't buy into many of the stereotypes out there about other races/religions/cultures, either.

Or maybe, since I am white, I am just being passive-agressive about the whole thing and just kind of shrugging my shoulders.
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It's not discussed I think because most white people don't have anything to compare themselves to and are not exposed to what minorities think of them, at least not to the extent that minorities are exposed to the opinions and thoughts of the majority.
Originally Posted by geeky
Exactly. Very well and succinctly put.
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My cousin's pet peeve is white women who think they have (in their words "ghetto booty" and therefore will be attractive to Black men when they are, in his words "just fat.") Thickness/curves etc. are not the same as fat.
Originally Posted by Amneris
I've heard other minority men say the same thing. Never a white male, though. I recently heard something from some white men about how a female's booty should never be larger than the male's hips. My fiance and our friend almost died laughing. They said, "you mean it should never be SMALLER than your hips, right?"
Originally Posted by Munchy
What? Okay, I've seen some women who's hips were the same size as their boyfriends, and unless the man has a curvaceous set of hips on him, it just doesn't look right seeing a man and woman both with narrow little skinny hips. You can't tell who's who from behind!
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aren't here songs written about it though, Like the Beach Boys' "California girls"?
Originally Posted by FreeCurls
I thought that had to do with blonde white girls being the cutest?
Originally Posted by internetchick
Oh yes, blondes have more fun and gentlemen prefer them too............. But there's a dark, shadow side. Dumb blonde jokes and not always being taken seriously and being seen as a sexual play thing or, conversely, being seen as an icy b*tch. That particular stereotype definitely cuts in different ways.

But Madonna was onto something with the notion of "blonde ambition." Since so many women dye their hair to achieve the effect, it's definitely aspirational, and culturally self perpetuating.
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ok, I have to ask, to the white women responding on this thread that they have never heard this sterotype - are you sure? Where I'm from it's a pretty common stereotype that white women "put out". It' asjust as common as many of the other ones tossed around this board so I'm surprised that it's so unheard of among white women. How is that so? Is there a but of denial going on here?
Originally Posted by FreeCurls
In my case, I don't think it's denial. I didn't grow up in a very diverse environment, so I wasn't really exposed to many stereotypes about my race.

Then, once I moved into a more diverse environment, and started making more friends, stereotypes didn't really play into it. I made a friend, I learned things about him or her, and I assumed those things held true for just him or her, not for the entire race he or she was a part of.

I don't know if that answers your question, but I've honestly been sitting here trying to think if I'd heard it before. I just really really haven't.
Originally Posted by Little Miss Snarky Booyah
I am not in denial, either.

I grew up in a predominately white neighborhood, white schools, etc. And maybe that's why I never heard it.
Now that I am older, and my community is HUGELY diverse, perhaps I still haven't heard it because now I am older and married, and I just don't talk about those things?
"california girls' just jumped to my mind as a quck example. I'm no music historian so don't look to me for more examples but I'm pretty sure that Beach Boys' weren't singing about black girls in that song. No offense. And yes it's a light, fun song but if you want to read between the lines I'm sure you could.
Originally Posted by FreeCurls
I don't think it was in the realm of cultural possibility when the song got released for them to be singing about anyone except various types of white girls. It's still a huge taboo in the media.
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It's not discussed I think because most white people don't have anything to compare themselves to and are not exposed to what minorities think of them, at least not to the extent that minorities are exposed to the opinions and thoughts of the majority.
Originally Posted by geeky
Exactly. Very well and succinctly put.
Originally Posted by Little Miss Snarky Booyah
Yup. Geeky is on a roll..... (like usual). Guardian B is having his moments too.

Bye for now........
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I've never heard this stereotype. I don't think it has any truth to it, just from my observations. Like LMCB, I'm a white woman who's only been with one person. Didn't wait until marriage (I don't know if it's sex before marriage that makes a person promiscuous or sex with multiple partners, or both), but I thought at first there would be a future commitment made. I'm pretty selective about who I date and sleep with - it's not that I haven't had opportunities, I just haven't taken them. Sex also has never been a huge priority for me. It has only been lately since I'm out of a relationship and don't have sex handy when I want it. If I would say, have sex with an ex or someone I'm not in a relationship with just to satisfy my craving, does that = promiscuity? "Promiscuous" is one of those words like "slut" that is relative and hard to define. I think it's one of those words that was created to make women feel bad about themselves. The only sex and race/ethnicity stereotype I've heard is that Latinas are more promiscuous than other women. I think it's because Latinas are portrayed as being more attractive and having better bodies than women of other races. They're made into sex objects by men.
"california girls' just jumped to my mind as a quck example. I'm no music historian so don't look to me for more examples but I'm pretty sure that Beach Boys' weren't singing about black girls in that song. No offense. And yes it's a light, fun song but if you want to read between the lines I'm sure you could.
Originally Posted by FreeCurls
I don't think it was in the realm of cultural possibility when the song got released for them to be singing about anyone except various types of white girls. It's still a huge taboo in the media.
Originally Posted by geeky

not trying to be a pain here, and the song doens't even really matter but there's along history of repression in the medio. Have you ever read, the celluliod closet about imagery of homosexuality in the movie industry from way back in the day when all that stuff was censored. Think Ben-hur, for example. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. Many thinkgs were and still are cloaked. Plus, original intentions aside, meaning can be ascribed. this song is still popular today and not just because we all are dreaming of those simpler times.
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I've never heard this stereotype. I don't think it has any truth to it, just from my observations. Like LMCB, I'm a white woman who's only been with one person. Didn't wait until marriage (I don't know if it's sex before marriage that makes a person promiscuous or sex with multiple partners, or both), but I thought at first there would be a future commitment made. I'm pretty selective about who I date and sleep with - it's not that I haven't had opportunities, I just haven't taken them. Sex also has never been a huge priority for me. It has only been lately since I'm out of a relationship and don't have sex handy when I want it. If I would say, have sex with an ex or someone I'm not in a relationship with just to satisfy my craving, does that = promiscuity? "Promiscuous" is one of those words like "slut" that is relative and hard to define. I think it's one of those words that was created to make women feel bad about themselves. The only sex and race/ethnicity stereotype I've heard is that Latinas are more promiscuous than other women. I think it's because Latinas are portrayed as being more attractive and having better bodies than women of other races. They're made into sex objects by men.
Originally Posted by Kenzie_06
That's not a stereotype, it's true!

(kidding)
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I've never heard this stereotype. I don't think it has any truth to it, just from my observations. Like LMCB, I'm a white woman who's only been with one person. Didn't wait until marriage (I don't know if it's sex before marriage that makes a person promiscuous or sex with multiple partners, or both), but I thought at first there would be a future commitment made. I'm pretty selective about who I date and sleep with - it's not that I haven't had opportunities, I just haven't taken them. Sex also has never been a huge priority for me. It has only been lately since I'm out of a relationship and don't have sex handy when I want it. If I would say, have sex with an ex or someone I'm not in a relationship with just to satisfy my craving, does that = promiscuity? "Promiscuous" is one of those words like "slut" that is relative and hard to define. I think it's one of those words that was created to make women feel bad about themselves. The only sex and race/ethnicity stereotype I've heard is that Latinas are more promiscuous than other women. I think it's because Latinas are portrayed as being more attractive and having better bodies than women of other races. They're made into sex objects by men.
Originally Posted by Kenzie_06
That's not a stereotype, it's true!

(kidding)
Originally Posted by Amneris
My boyfriend think that's true!

But the sex object thing, I can see being true...but there's always those types of men who think ALL women are sex objects, regardless of color, race, age, body type...disgusting.
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It's not discussed I think because most white people don't have anything to compare themselves to and are not exposed to what minorities think of them, at least not to the extent that minorities are exposed to the opinions and thoughts of the majority.
Originally Posted by geeky
There you have it.

it has to do with our Caribbean parents' 'sex talk' consisting of: "YOU HAVE SEX AND I'LL KILL YOU!!!!!!!" Yet our white girlfriend's parents, who are very open minded and laid back, probably had a very civil, sex talk with her, didn't use scare tactics, didn't threaten her life.
Originally Posted by DominicanaHeat
Gotta tell you, that was definitely the case with me.
I haven't heard it in the US, but definitely when I lived in Tanzania, which is predominantly Muslim. They would show movies which in the US are mainstream, and in Tanzania, they would immediately think, based on the movies, videos, etc., that white women are sluts, because Tanzanian women don't act/dress/talk that way. Alot of it also had to do with European tourists wearing mini skirts, tank tops, etc. which was not culturally acceptable to the Tanzanians at all.

And no, I am not in denial either, I have lived all over the US and not in predominantly white areas nor did I go to all white schools.
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As for CGE's post, it is an interesting one. Perceptions that white women are sexually easier could lead to higher incidents of sexual assault and rape of white women. But statistically speaking, rape occurs at the highest levels WITHIN the same racial or ethnic group. This is a very clear and well-documented pattern. Yet, you rarely see lots of news coverage about white women being raped by white men, be they strangers or spouses or boyfriends or casual dates. What you do see is a ton of coverage of black men sexually preying on white women that plays on historic and societal stereotypes.

Also, to the extent that white women are perhaps victimized in higher numbers than minority women (and it would be interesting to look at the stats there), the media has a clear pattern of covering those stories in huge proportion, thereby enshrining the cultural/societal value of young white women's lives, bodies and health.
Originally Posted by Matchless~Curls
I completely agree.
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it has to do with our Caribbean parents' 'sex talk' consisting of: "YOU HAVE SEX AND I'LL KILL YOU!!!!!!!" Yet our white girlfriend's parents, who are very open minded and laid back, probably had a very civil, sex talk with her, didn't use scare tactics, didn't threaten her life.
Originally Posted by DominicanaHeat
Gotta tell you, that was definitely the case with me. [/quote]

My mother's exact words were: "If you come home with a belly, you're on your own." I was barely 17 when she told me that. I believed her too.
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I haven't heard that white women are more promiscuious, though I have heard there are certain things sexually that black women won't do. I didn't think about it much - I guess I just thought those women were being uptight and rigid, and when your man is comparing your lack of adventurous sex to this white women who's more than willing to be exciting in bed, the best revenge is to start spreading rumors, or coming up with false stereotypes to bring down their character.

I'm not promiscuious by any means, but I am willing to get a little crazy in bed. It's my husband for God's sake - why wouldn't I want to do crazy porno things with him?

Frankly I think the only point of this thread is to try to piss people off by someone who obviously has a chip on their shoulder about the other thread - though it looks to me like the plan isn't working.
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it has to do with our Caribbean parents' 'sex talk' consisting of: "YOU HAVE SEX AND I'LL KILL YOU!!!!!!!" Yet our white girlfriend's parents, who are very open minded and laid back, probably had a very civil, sex talk with her, didn't use scare tactics, didn't threaten her life.
Originally Posted by DominicanaHeat
Gotta tell you, that was definitely the case with me.
Originally Posted by DominicanaHeat
My mother's exact words were: "If you come home with a belly, you're on your own." I was barely 17 when she told me that. I believed her too.[/quote]

YEP! My mama would say from the time I got my first period "If you get pregnant, I'm sending you back to Africa - BY YOURSELF. I'm not having you walk around here with a big belly."

I TOTALLY believed her.

I've been married for over 2 years and I'm terrified to tell her I'm pregnant!
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it has to do with our Caribbean parents' 'sex talk' consisting of: "YOU HAVE SEX AND I'LL KILL YOU!!!!!!!" Yet our white girlfriend's parents, who are very open minded and laid back, probably had a very civil, sex talk with her, didn't use scare tactics, didn't threaten her life.
Originally Posted by DominicanaHeat
Gotta tell you, that was definitely the case with me.
My mother's exact words were: "If you come home with a belly, you're on your own." I was barely 17 when she told me that. I believed her too.
Originally Posted by DominicanaHeat
maybe I"m falling into that category a bit as well. but I doubt any parent of any culture would be all "G'head get knocked up as a teen, no problem!" I'm pretty sure every parent would rather their child waits for adulthood to come before the become parents.
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it has to do with our Caribbean parents' 'sex talk' consisting of: "YOU HAVE SEX AND I'LL KILL YOU!!!!!!!" Yet our white girlfriend's parents, who are very open minded and laid back, probably had a very civil, sex talk with her, didn't use scare tactics, didn't threaten her life.
Originally Posted by DominicanaHeat
Gotta tell you, that was definitely the case with me.
My mother's exact words were: "If you come home with a belly, you're on your own." I was barely 17 when she told me that. I believed her too.
Originally Posted by DominicanaHeat
maybe I"m falling into that category a bit as well. but I doubt any parent of any culture would be all "G'head get knocked up as a teen, no problem!" I'm pretty sure every parent would rather their child waits for adulthood to come before the become parents.
Originally Posted by FreeCurls
Yeah, but you'll hear some white parents say things like "It's none of my business if you have sex - just use protection and be smart" or "After you turn 18, it's your life" and it's rare that Caribbean parents will say that.
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