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Old 09-13-2010, 01:28 PM   #21
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I love them, as well as the entire "Save the Ta-tas" campaign. But then, I also loathe the word "breasts" so that's no surprise. When I hear "breasts" I think of people overintellectualizing and heaping seriousness on some random fleshy protuberances which are, I am full aware, *both* sexual and biologically pragmatic. I don't think you can separate one from the other with boobs -- it's not more important that they be sexual, neither is it more important that they be regarded as a food source for infants. I don't think that putting them on a pedestal, sexual or intellectual, has any point whatsoever, and I take them about as seriously (in their physical form) as my buttcheeks. They're pretty and squishy and fun to play with and, yes, they're attractive and if I had a kid they'd be useful. I don't understand why people, particularly women, feel so compelled to imbue them with greater profundity than any other body part, and I love that the boobies and tatas campaigns relieve them of their 24/7 seriousness. While breast cancer certainly *is* serious, it seems to me that boobs needed to be liberated from the semantics of a particularly nasty affliction.

And I certainly don't presume that someone with a "Save the boobies/tatas" bumper sticker would be ok with some disembodied **** in a jar of formaldehyde, unbothered by the death of the owner of said ****.
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At the breast cancer walk everyone had shirts like that 'Save the Boobies' or 'Save the Ta Tas'

Or my personal favorite: 'Save Second Base!'
Not offended by any of those and I would wear the bracelet or shirt to work.
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Old 09-13-2010, 01:52 PM   #23
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Not offended at all...
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Old 09-13-2010, 01:56 PM   #24
 
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I'm not offended either.

And apparently my school doesn't have any issue with it--One of my friends showed up at school in a neon pink tee that said Save the Ta-Tas on it the other day. Nobody said anything to her....

The only one I'm mildly offended by is "Save Second Base". In that case, I do feel that it is basically suggesting that a woman's boobs are nothing but play things.
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:06 PM   #25
 
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What a dumb campaign.

I don't find the word "boobies" to be anymore sexually explicit than "breasts." But breast cancer is a gravely serious matter. Why make a mockery of a serious medical condition that kills thousands every year...why try to make it something people chuckle about?

It only diminishes the perceived seriousness of the situation IMO.
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:12 PM   #26
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What a dumb campaign.

I don't find the word "boobies" to be anymore sexually explicit than "breasts." But breast cancer is a gravely serious matter. Why make a mockery of a serious medical condition that kills thousands every year...why try to make it something people chuckle about?

It only diminishes the perceived seriousness of the situation IMO.
I don't know, I have a serious medical condition and if everyone was so gravely serious about it all the time I think I'd kill someone.

Laughing about it is the best way to get through the day sometimes, IMO it doesn't take away from the seriousness of the condition and it can actually make it easier to deal with.

I think that was the point of the campaign.
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What a dumb campaign.

I don't find the word "boobies" to be anymore sexually explicit than "breasts." But breast cancer is a gravely serious matter. Why make a mockery of a serious medical condition that kills thousands every year...why try to make it something people chuckle about?

It only diminishes the perceived seriousness of the situation IMO.
I don't know, I have a serious medical condition and if everyone was so gravely serious about it all the time I think I'd kill someone.

Laughing about it is the best way to get through the day sometimes, IMO it doesn't take away from the seriousness of the condition and it can actually make it easier to deal with.

I think that was the point of the campaign.
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Not offended at all...I even bought my teenage son one, and YES he wears it to school...not a problem for me or the school!!
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When I hear "breasts" I think of people overintellectualizing and heaping seriousness on some random fleshy protuberances which are, I am full aware, *both* sexual and biologically pragmatic.
I don't want to argue about the connotations that that word holds for you... But I think it's pretty easy to use a slightly more formal name without over-intellectualizing something.

Heck, "breasts" is a pretty fun word to say. It's a one-syllable tongue twister.

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Boobs, boobies, breasts, bosoms, ****... whatever you want to call them are no different from any body part yet we treat them as if they need special censorship which increases the fascination (sexual or otherwise) with them, and makes them more of something kids want to know about.
If I walked around with a bracelet that said "I love skin" that also had smaller writing signifying that the bracelet was part of a fundraiser for skin cancer research no one would think twice about it's appropriateness. Not only that but the stretchy band with the slogan on it seems geared towards the teenager-- it's colorful, it doesn't take itself too seriously and it garners attention. Some may see this as bad, or deceitful marketing but I (as a seventeen year old) believe it would encourage deeper awareness in the young adult population.
I mean... honestly... what do you think your middle/high schoolers are learning about in science and health classes? This bracelet is about awareness, not anatomy.
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I'm gonna hunt down a "save second base" t-shirt and BUY IT!!!!
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:37 AM   #32
 
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What a dumb campaign.

I don't find the word "boobies" to be anymore sexually explicit than "breasts." But breast cancer is a gravely serious matter. Why make a mockery of a serious medical condition that kills thousands every year...why try to make it something people chuckle about?

It only diminishes the perceived seriousness of the situation IMO.
I don't know, I have a serious medical condition and if everyone was so gravely serious about it all the time I think I'd kill someone.

Laughing about it is the best way to get through the day sometimes, IMO it doesn't take away from the seriousness of the condition and it can actually make it easier to deal with.

I think that was the point of the campaign.

I don't think it's really about any coping mechanisms you or anyone who suffers from these illnesses employ. It's about keeping it at the forefront of someone's research agenda. Other types of cancer aren't trivialized in that way. Just a type of cancer that (primarily) affects women. I don't see anyone wearing bracelets that say, "I love winkies" or "I love peepees" to promote prostate cancer research.

It all goes back to how women are objectified...and how parts of the female anatomy are regarded as toys and relegated to joke status.
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What a dumb campaign.

I don't find the word "boobies" to be anymore sexually explicit than "breasts." But breast cancer is a gravely serious matter. Why make a mockery of a serious medical condition that kills thousands every year...why try to make it something people chuckle about?

It only diminishes the perceived seriousness of the situation IMO.
I don't know, I have a serious medical condition and if everyone was so gravely serious about it all the time I think I'd kill someone.

Laughing about it is the best way to get through the day sometimes, IMO it doesn't take away from the seriousness of the condition and it can actually make it easier to deal with.

I think that was the point of the campaign.

I don't think it's really about any coping mechanisms you or anyone who suffers from these illnesses employ. It's about keeping it at the forefront of someone's research agenda. Other types of cancer aren't trivialized in that way. Just a type of cancer that (primarily) affects women. I don't see anyone wearing bracelets that say, "I love winkies" or "I love peepees" to promote prostate cancer research.

It all goes back to how women are objectified...and how parts of the female anatomy are regarded as toys and relegated to joke status.
I would agree with that . . . IF boobs weren't just as much fun for their owners as they are for the people playing with them (assuming, in that instance, that said person is not one in the same). I mean, I, as the proud owner of a set of tatas, appreciate and cultivate some good handiwork on the part of my SO. I'm not sacrificing anything when my boobs are treated like toys; quite the contrary, actually.

I'd also totally wear a "Save the weiners" t-shirt -- though that'd have to be for ED, or penile cancer or something, rather than prostate cancer, which is a separate thing. That the prostate has no cutesy nickname (of which I'm aware) seems more like an oversight -- possibly a lack of appreciation -- than a deliberate taking-serious of mens health issues.
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I'm offended by it.

I like boobs. So do, y'know, a lot of other people. But I think there are reasons to care about women's lives beyond the fact that women have boobs. If people disagree, they can wear bracelets that say "I love my walking sex toys." It's ridiculously misogynistic.

Not to mention that a lot of men get breast cancer, too. This isn't ovarian cancer or something.
I agree with this, completely.

I also resent the public fascination with breasts because as a small-chested woman (32A until last year, now 32B) I've been socialized to feel inadequate about my own. In high school, I dabbled in eating disorders and compulsive exercise because I thought the only excuse for having such small boobs was to be very, very thin. Obviously those are my own issues, but behind them is the same problematic sexualization of women that Eilonwy refers to.

Not to mention that the word "boobies" is, as others have said, infantilizing and demeaning.
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I also resent the public fascination with breasts because as a small-chested woman (32A until last year, now 32B) I've been socialized to feel inadequate about my own.
I'm a 30B. If one of us gets breast cancer, we clearly don't need to be saved because we contribute nothing to the ta-taness of society.

Wearing one of these bracelets just contributes to the view that a woman is nothing more than her body parts, and if her body parts aren't attractive, she's nothing.

It's about SAVING LIVES, not saving "boobies."

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It's about SAVING LIVES, not saving "boobies."

And sometimes, breasts must be removed to save a life. How are those women supposed to feel?
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I also resent the public fascination with breasts because as a small-chested woman (32A until last year, now 32B) I've been socialized to feel inadequate about my own.
I'm glad to hear that your eating disorder has gotten better.

I want to add that girls and women with large breasts tend to face a lot of sexual harassment aimed at their breasts. A lot of men really do see them as nothing more than walking sex toys, and this can lead to major body image issues. And don't forget that this can start as soon as a girl has developed large breasts, which could be around the age of 13. Plus, it's really difficult to find clothes that fit a figure like that.

Basically, unless you have medium-sized breasts, society will tell you that there's something wrong with your body.
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What a dumb campaign.

I don't find the word "boobies" to be anymore sexually explicit than "breasts." But breast cancer is a gravely serious matter. Why make a mockery of a serious medical condition that kills thousands every year...why try to make it something people chuckle about?

It only diminishes the perceived seriousness of the situation IMO.
I don't know, I have a serious medical condition and if everyone was so gravely serious about it all the time I think I'd kill someone.

Laughing about it is the best way to get through the day sometimes, IMO it doesn't take away from the seriousness of the condition and it can actually make it easier to deal with.

I think that was the point of the campaign.

I don't think it's really about any coping mechanisms you or anyone who suffers from these illnesses employ. It's about keeping it at the forefront of someone's research agenda. Other types of cancer aren't trivialized in that way. Just a type of cancer that (primarily) affects women. I don't see anyone wearing bracelets that say, "I love winkies" or "I love peepees" to promote prostate cancer research.

It all goes back to how women are objectified...and how parts of the female anatomy are regarded as toys and relegated to joke status.
I think that part of the reason there isn't other cutesy cancer gear is because no other form of cancer is quite as commercial as breast cancer.
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Nope, but I don't think it's appropriate for school.
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