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Old 11-17-2010, 09:28 AM   #41
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I had an internal ultrasound done at around 8 weeks with my first. Looked like a tiny pea with a halo which is why I asked earlier. Like said it can be done to prove pregnancy, etc. I was having severe back pain which is why I had mine. I don't believe they're routine though.
Sent a curious e-mail to my sister-in-law who happens to be a physicians assistant and she confirmed that they can be done early, but usually don't show much, just like you're saying. They're usually only to confirm the pregnancy, and usually only done in high-risk pregnancies or if a miscarriage is suspect because they're cost prohibitive. Doesn't sound like either of these is the case, though.
I saw him last night and the more I hear the weirder this whole thing seems.

She broke up with her boyfriend earlier this year whom she was in a 10 year relationship with. Turns out they were trying to have a baby and she misscarried .... bing bang boom she meets Dave and is all of a suddent pregnant again?

I had a look at the ultrasound is it is defnitely real ... she also started sending him messages while we were out for dinner last night (he just needed to talk) and he showed them to me.

While Dave was not being the most delicate in all his responses he said several times (without my advice) that while he has no interest in getting back together with her but that he has every intent to be there emotionally and financially for the child ... she just needs to be clear about what she needs and he will work with her. It was like she was wasn't even listening ... she just kept saying how he was in denial and was threatening to tell his family all these details if he didn't do the right thing ...

Turns out she has a doctors appointment today which he had to ask her almost a dozen times about before she told him when and where it was. He's planning on showing up to show her that he will be for her regarding the pregnancy and to hopefully get some answers.

The more I hear the more it sounds like she may have been upset about the earlier miscarrage and purposely got pregnant .. and then when reality set in she started freaking out.

I'll post an update once I find out how the doctors appointment goes. He really needs to see a lawyer.

ETA: I did tell him after he showed me initially that I didn't wannt him showing me any more of her messages because it was none of my business and made me uncomfortable. They are both being increbdibly selfish and immature about this whole thing .. This is not how two 29 year old adults should be acting.
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29 years old?!?! SHEESH! I assumed, like.....18 year olds or something since that's what it sounds like!

Wow.

I hope for the best for this situation, on all sides.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:43 AM   #43
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29 years old?!?! SHEESH! I assumed, like.....18 year olds or something since that's what it sounds like!

Wow.

I hope for the best for this situation, on all sides.
Ya, I had assumed she was in her early 20's based on the messages she had been sending ... I was shocked.

She has been saying she is cramping ... He suspects that she is actually going to the doctor about something else and will just end up telling him she miscarried.

Neither one of them believe in abortion (but they do believe in birthcontrol and pre-maritial sex, but that's a whole 'nother issue)

I feel very badly for this poor child should it make it to full term. Neither one of them are acting fit to be parents.
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I had an internal ultrasound done at around 8 weeks with my first. Looked like a tiny pea with a halo which is why I asked earlier. Like said it can be done to prove pregnancy, etc. I was having severe back pain which is why I had mine. I don't believe they're routine though.
Sent a curious e-mail to my sister-in-law who happens to be a physicians assistant and she confirmed that they can be done early, but usually don't show much, just like you're saying. They're usually only to confirm the pregnancy, and usually only done in high-risk pregnancies or if a miscarriage is suspect because they're cost prohibitive. Doesn't sound like either of these is the case, though.


First trimester ultrasounds are done not only to confirm pregnancy, but also to "date" the pregnancy. In fact, dating ultrasounds are much more accurate when done in the first trimester than when done later, so if a woman comes in without knowing good dates, a dating ultrasound can be done right away and can give very accurate dating of the pregnancy.
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First trimester ultrasounds are done not only to confirm pregnancy, but also to "date" the pregnancy. In fact, dating ultrasounds are much more accurate when done in the first trimester than when done later, so if a woman comes in without knowing good dates, a dating ultrasound can be done right away and can give very accurate dating of the pregnancy.
I found out I was 7w, 2d pregnant with my daughter by ultrasound.
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I had an internal ultrasound done at around 8 weeks with my first. Looked like a tiny pea with a halo which is why I asked earlier. Like said it can be done to prove pregnancy, etc. I was having severe back pain which is why I had mine. I don't believe they're routine though.
Sent a curious e-mail to my sister-in-law who happens to be a physicians assistant and she confirmed that they can be done early, but usually don't show much, just like you're saying. They're usually only to confirm the pregnancy, and usually only done in high-risk pregnancies or if a miscarriage is suspect because they're cost prohibitive. Doesn't sound like either of these is the case, though.


First trimester ultrasounds are done not only to confirm pregnancy, but also to "date" the pregnancy. In fact, dating ultrasounds are much more accurate when done in the first trimester than when done later, so if a woman comes in without knowing good dates, a dating ultrasound can be done right away and can give very accurate dating of the pregnancy.
Good to know. Thanks!
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Nej, something very similar happened to my younger brother, though he broke up with his girlfriend because she had cheated on him several times. In her attempt to get him back, he made a dumb ass move and slept with her one more time.

Boom, pregnant, despite successfully using birth control throughout their four-year relationship. He was definitely at fault too, for not using a condom.

Neither believed in abortion, and she still wanted him back so they could be a "family." He planned to support her and the baby... but he made it clear that he didn't want to be with her because he couldn't trust her to be faithful.

She flipped the hell out and has been making his life miserable ever since, going on six years now. Every time he gets visitation, it's taken away a few months later or she just refuses to let him see his daughter. The family court continually favors her, despite marrying a known drug user, using drugs herself and serving six months in jail for shoplifting (her mother was granted temporary custody over my brother, for some ridiculous reason). She even got married, had another baby and divorced the guy, but her ire remains focused on my brother.

I would say, especially if your friend and his girlfriend haven't been dating long, a paternity test is necessary in case she tries to rake him over the coals legally. If/When it's established that the child is his, he needs to step up and take responsibility. He effed up, too. If he wants joint custody or visitation, he needs a good lawyer. My brother's endless line of county-appointed attorneys have been utterly useless. And, uh, use condoms in the future, even if his partner says she's taking the pill.

But I hope he's able to work with her on having a civil relationship for the baby's sake. It doesn't deserve to be the pawn of a resentful parent.
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Darn you, spammer! Now I want to know how this all turned out...
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Darn you, spammer! Now I want to know how this all turned out...
She had his baby. She took the baby away to live with her parents in another province. It's super cute. She still harasses him about getting bak together and holds it over his head. He is still stupid and dumb and has only seen the baby once as he had to travel by plane to see it. She has moved back and left the baby with her parents to raise.


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Darn you, spammer! Now I want to know how this all turned out...
She had his baby. She took the baby away to live with her parents in another province. It's super cute. She still harasses him about getting bak together and holds it over his head. He is still stupid and dumb and has only seen the baby once as he had to travel by plane to see it. She has moved back and left the baby with her parents to raise.


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Awwww what a sad outcome for that child!
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Yeah that's pretty awful. Hopefully these two 'parents' can get it together for the sake of that poor kid.
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I feel for her.

Sorry.

Im not condoning certain behaviour (if, like RCW said, all of it is true). But, she is probably freaking out. She is pregnant by a guy she has known 2 months, who even by your accounts, is a bit of an unemployed dead-beat. Her life has taken a complete u-turn, she may not want, be ready, or able to care for a baby. And it seems like she has little to no support. I don't blame her being desperate to get back together if she feels she needs someone in this with her. It may not be the best thing, but it sure is understandable.

He does need to be clear on his feelings for her. He needs to get a paternity test. And he also needs to man up, get a job, and start acting like a father. From now. If abortion is out, this woman is going to need support from him, whether he wants to be a couple or not.

She doesn't need to just make decisions for herself and her baby. They need to make decisions for their child.
You feel for her?? I don't! I can't tell you how many girls who "say" they're on birth control but WHOOPS get pregnant after 2 months of knowing someone. It just happens too often to feel sorry anymore. I mean yeah, maybe this kid IS making her feel crazy, because I know that feeling, but the whole getting pregnant sh1t is just uncalled for. MAYBE it truly WAS an accident, but I just don't buy it.
Yeah, but guys who sleep with women they've only known for 2 months and don't use condoms when they are supposedly committed to sport make their own beds. Why should the woman be responsible for all the birth control?
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Oh my. Well I guess she wasn't faking it.
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Darn you, spammer! Now I want to know how this all turned out...
She had his baby. She took the baby away to live with her parents in another province. It's super cute. She still harasses him about getting bak together and holds it over his head. He is still stupid and dumb and has only seen the baby once as he had to travel by plane to see it. She has moved back and left the baby with her parents to raise.

Wow...I had forgotten all about this. THANKS for the update!

That poor child, with TWO idiot deadbeat parents. I hope the baby-daddy is at least paying child support.
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Darn you, spammer! Now I want to know how this all turned out...
She had his baby. She took the baby away to live with her parents in another province. It's super cute. She still harasses him about getting bak together and holds it over his head. He is still stupid and dumb and has only seen the baby once as he had to travel by plane to see it. She has moved back and left the baby with her parents to raise.

Wow...I had forgotten all about this. THANKS for the update!

That poor child, with TWO idiot deadbeat parents. I hope the baby-daddy is at least paying child support.
As far as I know she hasn't asked him for anything. Poor thing is adorable, and is gonna have a a strange life.


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She had his baby. She took the baby away to live with her parents in another province. It's super cute. She still harasses him about getting bak together and holds it over his head. He is still stupid and dumb and has only seen the baby once as he had to travel by plane to see it. She has moved back and left the baby with her parents to raise.

Wow...I had forgotten all about this. THANKS for the update!

That poor child, with TWO idiot deadbeat parents. I hope the baby-daddy is at least paying child support.
As far as I know she hasn't asked him for anything. Poor thing is adorable, and is gonna have a a strange life.

So...because she hasn't asked for anything, that means he shouldn't help raise his own child, even monetarily? He's not only stupid and dumb, he's an ass-hole.
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Wow...I had forgotten all about this. THANKS for the update!

That poor child, with TWO idiot deadbeat parents. I hope the baby-daddy is at least paying child support.
As far as I know she hasn't asked him for anything. Poor thing is adorable, and is gonna have a a strange life.

So...because she hasn't asked for anything, that means he shouldn't help raise his own child, even monetarily? He's not only stupid and dumb, he's an ass-hole.
Thats how I feel. what kind of man is he??? I would contact the grandparents and work on getting a relationship with my kid adn eventually custody.

Anyone who leaves their kid behind to be raised by others are a-holes imo.
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Wow...I had forgotten all about this. THANKS for the update!

That poor child, with TWO idiot deadbeat parents. I hope the baby-daddy is at least paying child support.
As far as I know she hasn't asked him for anything. Poor thing is adorable, and is gonna have a a strange life.

So...because she hasn't asked for anything, that means he shouldn't help raise his own child, even monetarily? He's not only stupid and dumb, he's an ass-hole.
Oh, this was an old thread bumped by a spammer?
I really hope you're not still in love with / sleeping with this guy, Nej - he sounds like a complete idiot. No one is "on the cusp of a professional hockey career" at 29. And seems while he was sitting there saying this woman was a crazy liar, she was carrying his child... and because she hasn't asked for child support, he thinks he's not obligated to pay it anyway, let alone emotional support?

I don't think being raised by grandparents is so awful, either, if they are a stable influence.
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She had his baby. She took the baby away to live with her parents in another province. It's super cute. She still harasses him about getting bak together and holds it over his head. He is still stupid and dumb and has only seen the baby once as he had to travel by plane to see it. She has moved back and left the baby with her parents to raise.

Wow...I had forgotten all about this. THANKS for the update!

That poor child, with TWO idiot deadbeat parents. I hope the baby-daddy is at least paying child support.
As far as I know she hasn't asked him for anything. Poor thing is adorable, and is gonna have a a strange life.


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I think "as far as I know" are likely the key words here! Doesn't sound like he's the most trustworthy source around.
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