GIRLFRIENDS who try and COPY your style?

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i have influenced many many people in my time and find it flattering. some i have quite teaching and they tend to stalk me for attention, which is extremely annoying.
If you look good in them, why not wear them? I think it IS valuing yourself to have confidence that you look good and feel good and can be yourself. It's not valuing yourself to hide your assets and try to be inconspicuous.

There is a middle ground between inconspicuous and tasteless. Bodies have surpassed brains in terms of value for many women. It does not empower women to be praised only for their beauty and bodies. It devalues them, and it devalues women as a group.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
But how can you assume that Zaria is, or wants to be, "praised only for her beauty and body" just because she wore a lot of tube tops one summer, or that she doesn't value brains? Who says she doesn't value both? Let's face it, looks can get one ahead as much as brains, and having both is great!
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Tub tops are also kind of "out" aren't they? At least I haven't seen them on anyone for a while.

I saw a whole group of tube tops at the mall last week...on girls about 14-15 years old. I don't usually shop late so I guess I don't usually see the late-night mall crowd, but I needed just a few things for the holiday, so I was there at near-closing time. I was appalled at the young girls who obviously spent ALL day putting on makeup and push-up bras so they could pose for the boys at the mall that night. I would call myself a failure as a mother if my daughter thought her value was tied up in her breasts and mall walking.

BTW, the girls were dressed mostly alike...ultra-low jeans, exposed midriffs (that's an understatement...more like exposed from ribs to pubic mounds), tube tops or tank tops (it's winter here ), ultra-straightened hair and too-much makeup. I'm sure a few of them thought THEY started the trend and were mad at their girlfriends for copying their "style"...
Let's face it, looks can get one ahead as much as brains, and having both is great!

Looks are great...but they really don't need to be displayed in a tube top to be appreciated. That's just trashy...
Tub tops are also kind of "out" aren't they? At least I haven't seen them on anyone for a while.

I saw a whole group of tube tops at the mall last week...on girls about 14-15 years old. I don't usually shop late so I guess I don't usually see the late-night mall crowd, but I needed just a few things for the holiday, so I was there at near-closing time. I was appalled at the young girls who obviously spent ALL day putting on makeup and push-up bras so they could pose for the boys at the mall that night. I would call myself a failure as a mother if my daughter thought her value was tied up in her breasts and mall walking.

BTW, the girls were dressed mostly alike...ultra-low jeans, exposed midriffs (that's an understatement...more like exposed from ribs to pubic mounds), tube tops or tank tops (it's winter here ), ultra-straightened hair and too-much makeup. I'm sure a few of them thought THEY started the trend and were mad at their girlfriends for copying their "style"...
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Ah...I haven't been out recently in a place that has a lot of people like that. I imagine that there are teens here that dress like that as well.

ITA that if you do indeed have both looks and brains, the looks do not need to be flaunted all over the place. Even if you look decent in a tube top, who would want to wear one?
What is so much worse about a tube top as opposed to a halter top, tank top, tight T-shirt, bustier etc. etc. etc?
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What is so much worse about a tube top as opposed to a halter top, tank top, tight T-shirt, bustier etc. etc. etc?

I guess context would be the deciding factor.
What is so much worse about a tube top as opposed to a halter top, tank top, tight T-shirt, bustier etc. etc. etc?

I guess context would be the deciding factor.
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
Yeah, and you don't have any context as to Zaria's situation or any pictures or anything to back up your assertion that she must look like a hooker or whore or be trashy.
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Yeah, and you don't have any context as to Zaria's situation or any pictures or anything to back up your assertion that she must look like a hooker or whore or be trashy.

Unless the tube top is silk and a part of formal attire to attend formal events (every day?), I think there is enough context...
I am not getting involved in the debate over tube tops, but RCW - I think you're initial comment was out of line, off-topic and intentionally hurtful. I can see the initial poster whom you attacked is not much involved but I can imagine your comments to be hurtful. There was no talk on hooker-clothes before you brought it up, entirely randomly. It was very agressive with no prompt for such aggression, so perhaps it'd be best if we ended this conversation on whore-ish clothes?

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Are you the new board monitor, Jennyfurrens? I didn't know...
Wow ok, I can see there's more aggression than just toward tube tops.

I don't spend much time on the Non-hair boards, and when I do I usually read the news threads, about recent events. So I rarely see the disputes that go on, and the Monitor's role in them. But I just saw something nasty breaking out and thought someone should try calm the situation down.

But what is your problem RCW? Why all the agro and spitefulness? I feel you've proven my initial point with your response...

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My older sisters had friend like those. Suffice it to say, the group dwindled down significantly. One girl would even go back home to change, or not go at all if she showed up and thought my sisters looked 'better' than her. She had some real issues.

I had a friend who would criticise every single thing I did...one I had on a white dress (very modest) to go to my best friend's funeral ---the girl looked me up and down, made a funny face and went, "That's what you are wearing?"
I think what it was was that she didnt know how to give a compliment without thinking it would take something from her, so instead what she did was made cutting remarks or just stared and stared but said nothing.
Jenny, darling...I did not call the poster a whore or trash or anything else. That's your assumption. I merely pointed out that a style of dress is whorish and trashy, etc.

I already have a mother, and I don't listen to her either, so don't try to slap my wrists.
As long as you don't patronise me, 'sweetie'.

The poster told us she wore a red top, and her friend copied her with a red top. Then you stated 'red must be the new colour for hookers' or something similar. Therefore, I read it as 'red' and 'hooker' as synonymous in your statement, and as Zaria was wearing red you were calling her a hooker, or implying it at least.

Don't try change interpretation or back down. You said what you said and it was obviously more than me who interpreted wrongly if Amneris is also trying to defend Zaria against your random statement.

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I don't think tube tops are whorish. Some can be I'm sure, as can most anything. But I don't see the problem.

I guess I win, I get to enjoy tube tops
Stephen Fry on "respect" and being "offended".
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Some of you sound like bickering children. My kids whine like that "Mooooooom, she's copying me", "Wah, he's copying me".
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves
wow. That was unecessary.
What is so much worse about a tube top as opposed to a halter top, tank top, tight T-shirt, bustier etc. etc. etc?
Originally Posted by Amneris
The fact that your boobs can flop out with just a little tug.
I used to have a signature but it disappeared and I just couldn't be bothered writing another so please feel free to ingore this.
What is so much worse about a tube top as opposed to a halter top, tank top, tight T-shirt, bustier etc. etc. etc?
Originally Posted by Amneris
The fact that your boobs can flop out with just a little tug.
Originally Posted by CGE
I have never seen anyone's boobs flopping out of a tube top. It's never happened to me all the times I have worn one. There are built in bras. There are strapless bras. There is common sense. There is making sure your clothes are well-fitting/well-tailored. There is being in shape and/or naturally built or surgically altered so you aren't "floppy." Obviously, you would only wear something you are comfortable and confident in. If you feel you might flop out of something, then you wouldn't wear it. The people who are wearing it obviously aren't worried about that. And if it happens, it happens - not the end of the world.

So are strapless dresses no-nos, too? Strapless prom gowns or evening gowns or wedding gowns? I've seen tons of people in these and worn these and no one's boobs ever flopped out with dancing, etc. etc. People here have posted strapless dresses they want to buy all the time and no one has said the dresses are "whorish."

Can't boobs also technically flop out of a bustier or a Marilyn Monroe style dress or top or a bikini or any number of things?
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If she doesn't, who else will? More people should think they are fabulous and then there wouldn't be so many miserable, bitter folk walking around carping on other people.
Originally Posted by Amneris
Indeed

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