Britney collapses in New Year stupor

It seems like we're a nation who makes too many excuses for idiotic behavior, esp for those we favor. If you pass out at a club on NYE, your birthday, whenever from alcohol, you're an alcoholic, imo.
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I'm still on the Defend Britney train.

I've seen plenty of people her age have to be carried out of bars, or even thrown up in bars - and I don't mean in the bathroom.

And yes, she has children, but I don't think anyone should assume that she acts the same way with her kids as she does when she's out partying.

I say - poor girl, she's trying to shove all of her 20's of partying that she missed into a very short time. She'll grow tired of it eventually.
Originally Posted by babywavy
I agree. I had to durned near carry out a friend of mine out of a club on New Year's one year. She got plastered and she was NOT an alcoholic. As a matter of fact, she NEVER drank and just went balls to the wall that night.

The media is just watching her every move. People go through periods of not making the best choices. Haven't we all?
I'm still on the Defend Britney train.

I've seen plenty of people her age have to be carried out of bars, or even thrown up in bars - and I don't mean in the bathroom.

And yes, she has children, but I don't think anyone should assume that she acts the same way with her kids as she does when she's out partying.

I say - poor girl, she's trying to shove all of her 20's of partying that she missed into a very short time. She'll grow tired of it eventually.
Originally Posted by babywavy
I agree. I had to durned near carry out a friend of mine out of a club on New Year's one year. She got plastered and she was NOT an alcoholic. As a matter of fact, she NEVER drank and just went balls to the wall that night.

The media is just watching her every move. People go through periods of not making the best choices. Haven't we all?
Originally Posted by Meghuney
Exactly. Why people are making a scene out of this is beyond me.
Stephen Fry on "respect" and being "offended".
Calgon take me away.
If you pass out at a club on NYE, your birthday, whenever from alcohol, you're an alcoholic, imo.

That's rather broad. I have known many people (myself included) who have passed out once or twice from over-indulging in alcohol who are definitely NOT alcoholics.

Today's psycho-babbling experts have convinced people that any abuse of alcohol is addiction, and that's simply not true.
It seems like we're a nation who makes too many excuses for idiotic behavior, esp for those we favor. If you pass out at a club on NYE, your birthday, whenever from alcohol, you're an alcoholic, imo.
Originally Posted by mandyv
I don't agree. I nearly passed out once in my refried beans after drinking half of a frozen Texas marguerita.

And then another time I fell asleep at a college party after a few spiked punches.

It was an indication of how little I usually drink rather than my drinking too much on a regular basis and being an alcoholic.

I just don't think that passing out from alcohol makes one an alcoholic automatically. If they do it every day or every week or every month, then yes, it's probably an alcohol problem.
If there were more people on earth who desired their own happiness more than the unhappiness of others we would have a paradise ~ Bertrand Russell
It seems like we're a nation who makes too many excuses for idiotic behavior, esp for those we favor. If you pass out at a club on NYE, your birthday, whenever from alcohol, you're an alcoholic, imo.
Originally Posted by mandyv
I don't agree. I nearly passed out once in my refried beans after drinking half of a frozen Texas marguerita.

And then another time I fell asleep at a college party after a few spiked punches.

It was an indication of how little I usually drink rather than my drinking too much on a regular basis and being an alcoholic.

I just don't think that passing out from alcohol makes one an alcoholic automatically. If they do it every day or every week or every month, then yes, it's probably an alcohol problem.
Originally Posted by KatieCoolLady
To add: the state of your health (cold, etc.), how much is in your stomach, your mood, how strong the drinks are made, etc. etc. etc.

These can all affect how much your "usual" can be. To fully know your limits you would need to know how alcohol affects you in all of these situations, not all of which are controllable by the person drinking. There are just too many variables. Most of us I'm assuming have had too much to drink at one point or another, and I doubt the intention was as such.

To put it simply, **** happens.
Stephen Fry on "respect" and being "offended".
Calgon take me away.
We are not talking about some random, anonymous person who out of the blue drinks too much on NYE. This is just one of several public humiliations that she has put herself through recently.


She is going through what will probably be a very difficult divorce and custody battle. You would hope that she'd have someone in her life that could help her make some better choices.
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We are not talking about some random, anonymous person who out of the blue drinks too much on NYE. This is just one of several public humiliations that she has put herself through recently.


She is going through what will probably be a very difficult divorce and custody battle. You would hope that she'd have someone in her life that could help her make some better choices.
Originally Posted by solange
To be quite honest, if the media broadcasted every bad mistake I made, I finally kicked my husband to the curb and was now facing single-parenthood alone..in the face of the media who eats up my every mistake - I may get drunk as a skunk on New Year's too.
We are not talking about some random, anonymous person who out of the blue drinks too much on NYE. This is just one of several public humiliations that she has put herself through recently.


She is going through what will probably be a very difficult divorce and custody battle. You would hope that she'd have someone in her life that could help her make some better choices.
Originally Posted by solange
To be quite honest, if the media broadcasted every bad mistake I made, I finally kicked my husband to the curb and was now facing single-parenthood alone..in the face of the media who eats up my every mistake - I may get drunk as a skunk on New Year's too.
Originally Posted by Meghuney
I guess this begs the question - Has celebrity made her more erratic or would she still be carrying on like this (on a smaller scale) if she had never become famous?
3C, BSL Unstretched -
We are not talking about some random, anonymous person who out of the blue drinks too much on NYE. This is just one of several public humiliations that she has put herself through recently.


She is going through what will probably be a very difficult divorce and custody battle. You would hope that she'd have someone in her life that could help her make some better choices.
Originally Posted by solange
To be quite honest, if the media broadcasted every bad mistake I made, I finally kicked my husband to the curb and was now facing single-parenthood alone..in the face of the media who eats up my every mistake - I may get drunk as a skunk on New Year's too.
Originally Posted by Meghuney
I guess this begs the question - Has celebrity made her more erratic or would she still be carrying on like this (on a smaller scale) if she had never become famous?
Originally Posted by solange
Good question. We don't see Reese Witherspoon's hoo-ha all over the place and she's about to be a divorced single mother of two as well.

I think Brittney is trashy and would be the same even if she weren't famous.

That said, I don't think she has an alcohol problem just because she's been out partying lately, I think it's kind of a normal thing to do after a break up. I just don't think she should be out getting wasted on a regular basis with two babies at home. To me that's her trashiness coming out.
If you got nothing to bring to the table - don't even bother sitting down.
We are not talking about some random, anonymous person who out of the blue drinks too much on NYE. This is just one of several public humiliations that she has put herself through recently.


She is going through what will probably be a very difficult divorce and custody battle. You would hope that she'd have someone in her life that could help her make some better choices.
Originally Posted by solange
To be quite honest, if the media broadcasted every bad mistake I made, I finally kicked my husband to the curb and was now facing single-parenthood alone..in the face of the media who eats up my every mistake - I may get drunk as a skunk on New Year's too.
Originally Posted by Meghuney
I guess this begs the question - Has celebrity made her more erratic or would she still be carrying on like this (on a smaller scale) if she had never become famous?
Originally Posted by solange

Good question, Solange. Personally, I think she probably would.
I think the girl has been in the public eye, and famous, since she was 16. She's been constantly on tour, and promoting/releasing albums. The first time she ever went out on her own and had some fun, or made her own decisions, was when things were doing downhill w/ KFed.

Now she's spent the early part of her 20's pregnant and home w/ babies while her "husband" got to spend her money and ride on her coattails.

She's a mother, yes, and she chose that, yes, but I don't think it was her choice for her husband to be a deadbeat, and her to divorce him and have 2 kids on her own.

She's exercising a little bit of irresponsibility now, but she'll settle down when she gets it out of her system.

I KNOW she's a mom, but she's also a human being, and going through stuff like this isn't any easier just b/c you have kids.

Personally I think it's better that she go through this phase now, rather than when the kids are old enough to notice.
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If she didn't know she was marrying a broke scumbag, she must have been deaf, blind and crazy. The girl had to buy her own engagement ring. He had a pregnant fiance when they got together. She chose to marry him.

No one is saying leaving your husband and divorcing is made easier by having two children. I could imagine that only makes it harder. What I understand people to be saying is that when you have kids, you need to cowboy it the eff up and be a woman. She's not a little girl anymore. She's made adult choices since she hit 18. If she's going to make adult choices, she needs to act like one.

Like I said, the point isn't that she got trashed on NYE. That happens. It's all the other stupid, immature and irresponsible crap thrown in. If she thinks having money will be the determining factor, she needs to wake up. Courtney Love lost custody of her daughter, granted she was a drug addict. I think she and her now deceased husband also lost custody at one point.

For many people, this sort of behavior is a phase. For many others, it's just a sneakpeak at the sort of behavior they'll exhibit at 40. The only thing ickier than a sloppy drunk 25 yo woman is a sloppy drunk 40 yo trying to party like it's the day before Prohibition.

I doubt anyone would be saying poor Britney if she was 20, living in a trailer park and on welfare. People would be telling her to put her children first, stop partying all the time and do something productive with herself.
To be quite honest, if the media broadcasted every bad mistake I made, I finally kicked my husband to the curb and was now facing single-parenthood alone..in the face of the media who eats up my every mistake - I may get drunk as a skunk on New Year's too.
Originally Posted by Meghuney
I think that turning to alchohol when life gets tough reveals a problem or potential problem.

I hope she learns that when the haze clears, the problems will still be there.
"Honey, you're so uptight, you need to do a number 7" Samantha to Charlotte on SATC
I think the girl has been in the public eye, and famous, since she was 16. She's been constantly on tour, and promoting/releasing albums. The first time she ever went out on her own and had some fun, or made her own decisions, was when things were doing downhill w/ KFed.

Now she's spent the early part of her 20's pregnant and home w/ babies while her "husband" got to spend her money and ride on her coattails.

She's a mother, yes, and she chose that, yes, but I don't think it was her choice for her husband to be a deadbeat, and her to divorce him and have 2 kids on her own.

She's exercising a little bit of irresponsibility now, but she'll settle down when she gets it out of her system.

I KNOW she's a mom, but she's also a human being, and going through stuff like this isn't any easier just b/c you have kids.

Personally I think it's better that she go through this phase now, rather than when the kids are old enough to notice.
Originally Posted by babywavy
Once again, I agree with the wonderful Babywavy.
If she didn't know she was marrying a broke scumbag, she must have been deaf, blind and crazy. The girl had to buy her own engagement ring. He had a pregnant fiance when they got together. She chose to marry him.
Originally Posted by Discgirl
I agree. She knew exactly what she was getting. K-Fed wasn't some con-man, the red flags were all right there for her to see.
If you got nothing to bring to the table - don't even bother sitting down.
But just because you "knew what you were getting into" doesn't make it any less hard to get out of it or any less sad. I'm sure she feels like a failure and a fool and knows the world is laughing at her/ talking about her. Perhaps she isn't going about it the right way, well obviously she isn't..lol... but she's probably just going through some serious regret, depression and all that fun stuff.
There are plenty of people who make mistakes and struggle to deal with them. I bet the majority of them don't go around in a micro mini flashing their hooha. People are laughing at her and making her the butt of jokes b/c she's acting like an idiot since she had the class to text her husband she was filing for divorce.

The "support" of Britney in this thread is interesting given the previous revulsion people were expressing about what she and K-Fed did on the balcony while they were married.
There are plenty of people who make mistakes and struggle to deal with them. I bet the majority of them don't go around in a micro mini flashing their hooha. People are laughing at her and making her the butt of jokes b/c she's acting like an idiot since she had the class to text her husband she was filing for divorce.
The "support" of Britney in this thread is interesting given the previous revulsion people were expressing about what she and K-Fed did on the balcony while they were married.
Originally Posted by Discgirl

......can't argue with that.....
If she didn't know she was marrying a broke scumbag, she must have been deaf, blind and crazy. The girl had to buy her own engagement ring. He had a pregnant fiance when they got together. She chose to marry him.

No one is saying leaving your husband and divorcing is made easier by having two children. I could imagine that only makes it harder. What I understand people to be saying is that when you have kids, you need to cowboy it the eff up and be a woman. She's not a little girl anymore. She's made adult choices since she hit 18. If she's going to make adult choices, she needs to act like one.

Like I said, the point isn't that she got trashed on NYE. That happens. It's all the other stupid, immature and irresponsible crap thrown in. If she thinks having money will be the determining factor, she needs to wake up. Courtney Love lost custody of her daughter, granted she was a drug addict. I think she and her now deceased husband also lost custody at one point.

For many people, this sort of behavior is a phase. For many others, it's just a sneakpeak at the sort of behavior they'll exhibit at 40. The only thing ickier than a sloppy drunk 25 yo woman is a sloppy drunk 40 yo trying to party like it's the day before Prohibition.

I doubt anyone would be saying poor Britney if she was 20, living in a trailer park and on welfare. People would be telling her to put her children first, stop partying all the time and do something productive with herself.
Originally Posted by Discgirl
I agree.

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