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Congress should not regulate airline baggage fees. If I don't like that Delta or United charges a fee, then I should drive or fly Southwest. There's a place for regulation, but this is over-reach IMHO.
I wish they would. If you're going to charge a fee, then it should be included in the price of the ticket. That way, you can fairly compare prices on the travel sites. Now that they charge so much, it takes forever to board the plane because EVERYBODY has a carry-on and some end up getting checked for free anyways. When we went to San Diego, my boyfriend and I only checked one bag for the both of us to save money. We then crammed our two carry-ons and two personal items full...it was a nightmare carrying all of that stuff through the airport.
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I hate that you needed that disclaimer!

Being anti-big government and anti-unneeded regulation doesn't mean you are anti-humanity, as are so many of the loudmouths claiming to be conservative right now.

I have a strong libertarian side to my beliefs, only I believe that we won't take care of everyone if it's left truly independent of the government so I tend to lean more Democrat in voting. (I'm registered Republican so I can vote in their primaries, for the saner candidates.) I'm not sure how I feel about baggage fee regulation - it kind of feels like collusion on the part of the airlines, but I don't know if the official definitions would say it is or not. To me that's the deciding line on whether or not there should be regulation.

What most bothers me about the baggage fees is it's a pretty anti-family policy. If you are traveling with an infant especially, and you need fluids of some sort - you HAVE to check bags, especially with the stupid 3oz fluid rules they have. It's annoying for me traveling because my contact solution doesn't come in small bottles, but I just buy it on the other end - but it's not bad for me like it is for a family, and really contacts are a luxury anyway!
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U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez is calling on Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood to mandate an advance listing of all fees that go into airline ticket prices, and to bar any fee increases once the sale is made.
I don't see anything wrong with this. Fees should be transparent. That being said, I don't agree that this should be our priority right now. When social and human services are being cut right and left, this is the least of my worries.

What most bothers me about the baggage fees is it's a pretty anti-family policy. If you are traveling with an infant especially, and you need fluids of some sort - you HAVE to check bags, especially with the stupid 3oz fluid rules they have. It's annoying for me traveling because my contact solution doesn't come in small bottles, but I just buy it on the other end - but it's not bad for me like it is for a family, and really contacts are a luxury anyway!
Originally Posted by NetG
That's not exactly true about the baby formula. According to the TSA, formula, breast milk, baby formula and medication don't need to meet the 3 oz rule if they're declared at the security checkpoint.
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U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez is calling on Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood to mandate an advance listing of all fees that go into airline ticket prices, and to bar any fee increases once the sale is made.
I don't see anything wrong with this. Fees should be transparent. That being said, I don't agree that this should be our priority right now. When social and human services are being cut right and left, this is the least of my worries.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
ITA here.

What most bothers me about the baggage fees is it's a pretty anti-family policy. If you are traveling with an infant especially, and you need fluids of some sort - you HAVE to check bags, especially with the stupid 3oz fluid rules they have. It's annoying for me traveling because my contact solution doesn't come in small bottles, but I just buy it on the other end - but it's not bad for me like it is for a family, and really contacts are a luxury anyway!
Originally Posted by NetG
That's not exactly true about the baby formula. According to the TSA, formula, breast milk, baby formula and medication don't need to meet the 3 oz rule if they're declared at the security checkpoint.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
In theory, that's fine... but I've seen multiple cases in which that wasn't followed. If it always were, it might be different.
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I have mixed feelings about this kind of legislation. I'm socially liberal but I do have a lot of conservative views (or libertarian???). I think industries need to be held accountable...and I believe regulation is a necessary evil in a lot of cases...it can go overboard at times...but it is necessary if an industry is abusing the rights of others or is misleading them for their own benefit.
Charges must be transparent...informed consent should be a right for the consumer.
However, I agree with mrspoppers, there are bigger fish to fry right now.
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What's not transparent? You buy a ticket in 2011 and you know there will be additional fees. Then you know some airlines charge for bags, some don't. I don't like the fees but if there is legislation to stop them, I bet ticket prices will rise across the board. Then will ticket prices will regulated? There's a place for free will and free enterprise.
Flying in general has become pretty anti-family IMO. If my family wants to visit my sister's family the typical lowest ticket price from CA to AL is $300. So that's $1,200 for 4 tickets. Add $30 per bag both ways and we're at $1,440. Just to fly.
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The airline industry has always been regulated. All industries that are monopolies are regulated. And since the airline industry has moved into this recent trend of trying to trick-and-trap consumers with hidden fees, they should have that regulated too.
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My feeling of baggage fees in general is that there are certainly things that are assumed to be a part of the price of the ticket, and baggage transit is one of those things. It's an integral part of flying, checking a bag, and the cost of doing so should be part of your ticket.

Over-weight bags, I get the fees for those. Tons of bags, I get that. I'd even say a second bag is reasonable to charge for.

Seems to me, though, that up to a certain weight of baggage should be mandatory to include in the price of the ticket.
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The airline industry is not only heavily regulated, but it is also heavily subsidized. Governments at the federal, state, and local levels all have supported airports and other parts of the industry.

The baggage fees - which are outrageous - have led people to carry on more stuff than is necessary. One consequence is the clogging of security lines. So, the federal government is spending more because the airlines are charging outrageous prices for baggage.
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Yep--the government has subsidized the airline industry, so I wish it WOULD put caps on fees for having bags. Of COURSE we are going to check a bag when we travel. Put it in the total price of the ticket, and let us compare prices. I hate being nickeled and dimed after I've already paid for a ticket. I'm tired of everything being ala carte when it comes to flying.
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