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Old 01-17-2007, 12:09 AM   #21
 
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I just can't like Brad and Angelina. In my eyes they stand for a lot of things I just don't like. I stay away from their movies and stuff.
There are so many other famous people that seem so much nicer, that this couple seems just not interesting.
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:05 AM   #22
 
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But again, everyone has a different opinion, so whatever. What was the thread here called... how old was it? I'll read it.
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Another Angelina bashing thread? Doesn't this get a little old?
Actually, I never seen Angelina bashing threads, just threads in praise of Angelina where one or two brave souls pipe up and say, "hey, remember when we all knew her for being crazy as a &%$@#! house rat?"

Anyway, to me he always looks like he's probably a kind of stinky slacker stoner and she looks hard - like, prison hard. They clean up well and photoshop very nice but if they weren't famous and if we weren't all drowning in the hype, I don't think anyone would look twice at them on the street (other than to say, hey...who smells like patchouli and pot?). Which is not to say they aren't good looking, I just don't get the whole Super Couple thing.

And yeah, it's hard for me to really think of them as wonderful people considering she's gone from one married-to-someone-else guy after another and he cheated on his wife with her (read the article in Vogue, she puts it right out there). It's easy to be a "good person" when it comes to grand attention getting gestures that don't really personally cost you anything. It's much harder to do the right things in your day to day life and make the hard choices that aren't always so much fun.
what an excellent post!

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And if you read the rest of the thread, you will see that a lot of mothers feel the same way, where it takes time to bond with a baby, alot more time than when they are older and have more personality. Does that make them off too? Maybe she could have worded it better, but alot of women on this board agreed that they felt the same way.
I know I did. I expected more..not just 7 pounds of screams. It took a while, so I actually was impressed with her honesty there. Not a lot of people would come out and say that. I mean, really...it's not what you're "supposed" to say!
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Actually, Brad has been looking more and more attractive to me these days. I have noticed he looks a little more worn around the edges, but I like it. Before he was too polished/pretty boy/manicured for me. Now he has some character.

As far as the other kind of "character" goes, I think I've said my peace on these two in other threads, so I'll let it be with that.
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While I would never publicly call my child a blob, I do get that newborns aren't the most interesting people in the world - there are a few weeks where it's eat, sleep (if you're lucky), poop (if you're lucky), scream (all the time) and it's not the most fun in the world . It takes a while for them to really start interacting with you and THAT is when it gets fun. So I get that.

But as I said in the other thread, telling the world you "feel so much more" for two of your children is just selfish. You feel however you feel, but sometimes you need to keep that between yourself and your therapist.
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:22 AM   #27
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1. Not a mother, but have been around different newborns, and they seem interesting enough to me. Some are nosy, some couldn't care less what is going on, some can't stand to have one single drop of liquid on their shirt, others don't care, some only want their mom, others will go to anybody...They DO have different personalities.

2. Yeah, those kids won't struggle unless their parents continue being the idiots they are.

3. (Somewhat related to 2 and most important) The most important thing that you can do for your kid is to raise them right, always try to do what's best for them, be there for them, love them...That's what makes a child "privledged" and it has nothing to do with how famous or rich you are. Angelina should be saying, "Hey, all of these kids are lucky to have parents who really care for and appreciate them (but they really don't, so they can't say that). I wish all kids could be loved like this." Instead, these kids will have like 10 fathers, a self-centered head-up-her-butt mother, no one ever really around, and all the looks and material things that they could ever want. They are sooo privledged.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:15 AM   #28
 
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She looks defiant in this picture. Or perhaps more like an evil witch.



With regard to her comments about her adopted kids and bio kid, I totally get what she was saying. You empathize more with the child who has been through a lot more. It doesn't necessarily mean you love them more. It sounds like she's more sensitive to the life they had before she adopted them. Plus, her adopted kids are children of color. Their lives will never be as easy as Shiloh's, even with all the money in the world. I think she knows that.

I was in love with both my babies, as soon as they were born. I mean crazy in love. But I agree with other moms here, who have posted that babies become more interesting as they get older. And your love grows and grows with each passing day.
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Did y'all hear they are moving to NO?
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Did y'all hear they are moving to NO?
New Orleans? Why?
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Did y'all hear they are moving to NO?
New Orleans? Why?
Apparently to continue their involvement in humanitarian issues...
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Plus, her adopted kids are children of color. Their lives will never be as easy as Shiloh's, even with all the money in the world. I think she knows that.
Exactly. You're on to something there. There's so much media attention on Shiloh's good genes and how "beautiful" she must end up being, and the media make sure they refer to M and Z as adopted (like there was any doubt), almost treating them like charity cases, and treating them as if they are "exotic", to recall that thread. Look at the huge difference in the way the media treat Isabella and Connor (the kids Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman adopted) and Suri. Did M and Z or I and C ever have photo shoots even approaching the hype Suri and Shiloh got? Nor do the bio kids of celebrities of colour generate that kind of hype, no matter how cute they are (Will and Jada's kids!)
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1. Not a mother, but have been around different newborns, and they seem interesting enough to me. Some are nosy, some couldn't care less what is going on, some can't stand to have one single drop of liquid on their shirt, others don't care, some only want their mom, others will go to anybody...They DO have different personalities.
Newborns have personalities, but they don't give a hoot if their clothes are messy. Newborns care about two things - warmth and food. If they dont' have either one, they cry. When I read this sentence, I picture MUCH older babies, who are more alert than a newborn.

As for Brad, he's ALWAYS looked like someone who smells and has hygene (sp) issues. I couldn't believe that Jennifer Aniston would marry him (I awlays thought that she was so cute). Angelina, I think that she's pretty, has some pretty good features. That's about the extent of my thoughts that I give these two people.
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"He looks like he smells."
"She's pretty."


That does really sum it up doesn't it!!
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Old 01-17-2007, 10:16 AM   #35
 
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I have noticed that he seems more and more subdued. I get the impression that Angie is the boss of him.
Although he still is very attractive to me, he does look alot older, all of a sudden. The "old" look that people get when they suddenly become stuck with alot of responsibility or come under alot of stress.
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Plus, her adopted kids are children of color. Their lives will never be as easy as Shiloh's, even with all the money in the world. I think she knows that.
Exactly. You're on to something there. There's so much media attention on Shiloh's good genes and how "beautiful" she must end up being, and the media make sure they refer to M and Z as adopted (like there was any doubt), almost treating them like charity cases, and treating them as if they are "exotic", to recall that thread. Look at the huge difference in the way the media treat Isabella and Connor (the kids Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman adopted) and Suri. Did M and Z or I and C ever have photo shoots even approaching the hype Suri and Shiloh got? Nor do the bio kids of celebrities of colour generate that kind of hype, no matter how cute they are (Will and Jada's kids!)
I think that you are right about the adopted children being shunned more but I think that's less b/c they are of other races and more b/c they are adopted. As far as Will and Jada's kids, i just think that they have brains enough to kepp their children as down to earth and out of the paparazzi spotlight as possible. Plus. I think Tom Cruise made it so that the media was a circus when it came to his child through his recent antics.
And to be honest I don't think that Shiloh is automatically going to be gorgeous 1: b/c how genes mix is more the determinate factor over if the parents are attractive (they may not mix well) and 2: I don't think that she is that goregeous and he's ok, but not unbelievably attractive in my eyes.
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:11 AM   #37
 
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought it was Nicole Kidman's choice not to have her children with Tom in the public eye. I never thought it was lack of interest on the part of the media due to their ethnic background.

There certainly has been tons of coverage of Maddox and Zahara in the media. The interest in Shiloh might just be due to the Jennifer-Brad breakup and the controversy over the pregnancy.
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While I would never publicly call my child a blob, I do get that newborns aren't the most interesting people in the world - there are a few weeks where it's eat, sleep (if you're lucky), poop (if you're lucky), scream (all the time) and it's not the most fun in the world . It takes a while for them to really start interacting with you and THAT is when it gets fun. So I get that.

But as I said in the other thread, telling the world you "feel so much more" for two of your children is just selfish. You feel however you feel, but sometimes you need to keep that between yourself and your therapist.
That was pretty much what I was getting at as well.
I read the thread here last night, and I see basically the same opinion that I have really. I understand that not all moms are going to be in love instantly, and that newborns can be very... trying, but I still don't think to come out and say what she did, ESPECIALLY as a famous person, is the kindest or smartest thing. If she feels it, fine. Keep it to yourself though, ya know? Don't put it out there for the whole world to read, comment on, and your daughter to one day read. Shiloh can't help being born to who she was born to any more than Maddox & Zahara; it isn't reason to have to 'make an effort' to care about her or whatever.
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so Rhe, all those PPD mothers who have had not so charitable things to say about how they feel about their newborns should also stay silent? By speaking out about it PPD has become much more accessible and women can ge the help they need. Being a mom is not all madnonnas and halos 24/7. I think AJ is being honest and yes sometime down the line should Shiloh read those comments it may hurt but she'll probably understand the sentiment behind it. I think a lot of people are reading a lot into that quote.
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:42 AM   #40
 
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Of course, some interviewers are good at getting a person to talk unguardedly, and sometimes things come out that I'm sure end up sounding differently than the interviewee realized.
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