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All of this is based on rumor and speculation. "Crazy" is a serious label to slap on someone when we don't know the real deal.
Originally Posted by Layali
I don't think crazy is all that serious a label. It's not exactly a clinical term. Ninjarette also put crazy in quotes.

On the other hand, my use of whackadoodle definitely is a clinical term.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers

Hmmm, "crazy" may not be a clinical term, but it is offensive to those who suffer from mental illness. Halle Berry has been very public about her battle with depression and suicidal tendencies so I do think it's inappropriate here. Just my opinion.
Originally Posted by Layali
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I'll just say it:
I believe Halle Berry is a nut case...I've always thought that. Is Olivier a ho? Probably. But that don't make him crazy. If she ain't got enough sense to know her man's propensities, that's her bad. She's 46 years old. She's been around the block and she's too old to be that naive. She has access to the same info we do...and more. So, who's the fool in all of this? Olivier may need to run...from her.

When she claimed Gabriel was such a "menace" and needed supervision around Nahla, she got major side-eye from me. First off, if ANY dude called me a "ghetto Ni&&er" (along with throwin' chairs) and was verbally abusive to me and our child, there would be no "negotiations" and no "smoothing over" of anything. You don't get to see baby girl supervised/unsupervised/in shackles. It's over, son.

You keep ending up with "bad" men? Naw...it ain't the men. It's you. She's the same woman who tried to commit suicide in her car...and grabbed her dogs along for the last ride, right? What kind of "crazy" is that? The high potency kind.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
I wasn't following this story, but it sounds like she probably made all of that up about Gabriel so she could get full custody? That's just shameful if she did (I'm sure similar things happen often, sadly.) What a horrible thing to do to your child.

Her daughter is beautiful.
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
I think she used her celebrity status to work everything in her favor. I just don't believe he's what she made him out to be. Every picture I have seen of Nahla with Gabriel shows a child who doesn't seem to fear her daddy. She looks quite comfortable with him.

Yes, Nahla is beautifull.
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I'll just say it:
I believe Halle Berry is a nut case...I've always thought that. Is Olivier a ho? Probably. But that don't make him crazy. If she ain't got enough sense to know her man's propensities, that's her bad. She's 46 years old. She's been around the block and she's too old to be that naive. She has access to the same info we do...and more. So, who's the fool in all of this? Olivier may need to run...from her.

When she claimed Gabriel was such a "menace" and needed supervision around Nahla, she got major side-eye from me. First off, if ANY dude called me a "ghetto Ni&&er" (along with throwin' chairs) and was verbally abusive to me and our child, there would be no "negotiations" and no "smoothing over" of anything. You don't get to see baby girl supervised/unsupervised/in shackles. It's over, son.

You keep ending up with "bad" men? Naw...it ain't the men. It's you. She's the same woman who tried to commit suicide in her car...and grabbed her dogs along for the last ride, right? What kind of "crazy" is that? The high potency kind.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
I wasn't following this story, but it sounds like she probably made all of that up about Gabriel so she could get full custody? That's just shameful if she did (I'm sure similar things happen often, sadly.) What a horrible thing to do to your child.

Her daughter is beautiful.
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
I think she used her celebrity status to work everything in her favor. I just don't believe he's what she made him out to be. Every picture I have seen of Nahla with Gabriel shows a child who doesn't seem to fear her daddy. She looks quite comfortable with him.

Yes, Nahla is beautifull.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
Yeah, I just saw photos of them together and the little girl looked like she was enjoying being with him.

Also, I thought she had adopted her second husband's daughter and was always calling her her daughter even after they had broken-up. Is she not in her life anymore? That had to be sad/rough for the girl to lose another mom.
Yeah, I just saw photos of them together and the little girl looked like she was enjoying being with him.

Also, I thought she had adopted her second husband's daughter and was always calling her her daughter even after they had broken-up. Is she not in her life anymore? That had to be sad/rough for the girl to lose another mom.
Originally Posted by CanItBeChristine
Eric Benet's daughter India...I haven't heard anything about their relationship lately. He remarried and his wife just had a baby.
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All of this is based on rumor and speculation. "Crazy" is a serious label to slap on someone when we don't know the real deal.
Originally Posted by Layali
I don't think crazy is all that serious a label. It's not exactly a clinical term. Ninjarette also put crazy in quotes.

On the other hand, my use of whackadoodle definitely is a clinical term.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Right.

This is a thread about a celebrity...of course it's speculation. I stand by my statement...I think she's crazy, and a whackadoodle. Why that has to turn into any level of "seriousness" is beyond me. Halle is probably somewhere with Olivier Martinez, crazy or not. She's good. Let's lighten up. It ain't that heavy. Oh and that's coming from someone who has suffered from depression.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
You can stand by your judgement--that's fine.

I work in mental health. There are a lot of people out there suffering from mental illness who don't seek help because of discussions like this--they are afraid of the "crazy," "whackadoodle," and "nut job" labels. Whether we are talking about a celebrity or Ray-Ray on the corner, these words diminish the disease and the person suffering from it. So yeah, to me it is that serious.
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Originally Posted by foreverturtles
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Yeah, that's him. He's lookin' much older, but still good looking.
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I don't think crazy is all that serious a label. It's not exactly a clinical term. Ninjarette also put crazy in quotes.

On the other hand, my use of whackadoodle definitely is a clinical term.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Right.

This is a thread about a celebrity...of course it's speculation. I stand by my statement...I think she's crazy, and a whackadoodle. Why that has to turn into any level of "seriousness" is beyond me. Halle is probably somewhere with Olivier Martinez, crazy or not. She's good. Let's lighten up. It ain't that heavy. Oh and that's coming from someone who has suffered from depression.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
You can stand by your judgement--that's fine.

I work in mental health. There are a lot of people out there suffering from mental illness who don't seek help because of discussions like this--they are afraid of the "crazy," "whackadoodle," and "nut job" labels. Whether we are talking about a celebrity or Ray-Ray on the corner, these words diminish the disease and the person suffering from it. So yeah, to me it is that serious.
Originally Posted by Layali
Well, if you and others find it offensive, report it. You can always do that.
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What she's saying is that "crazy" is considered an ableist slur. Now, I don't quite agree with banning it from the lexicon in all aspects of life, because I don't think it works the same way as gender/racial/sexual slurs, but I do understand what layali is saying and why it bothers her.
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I don't think crazy is all that serious a label. It's not exactly a clinical term. Ninjarette also put crazy in quotes.

On the other hand, my use of whackadoodle definitely is a clinical term.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Right.

This is a thread about a celebrity...of course it's speculation. I stand by my statement...I think she's crazy, and a whackadoodle. Why that has to turn into any level of "seriousness" is beyond me. Halle is probably somewhere with Olivier Martinez, crazy or not. She's good. Let's lighten up. It ain't that heavy. Oh and that's coming from someone who has suffered from depression.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
You can stand by your judgement--that's fine.

I work in mental health. There are a lot of people out there suffering from mental illness who don't seek help because of discussions like this--they are afraid of the "crazy," "whackadoodle," and "nut job" labels. Whether we are talking about a celebrity or Ray-Ray on the corner, these words diminish the disease and the person suffering from it. So yeah, to me it is that serious.
Originally Posted by Layali
Sure, you're entitled to your opinion.

Just like people call certain celebrities fat or homely or any number of other things, they will call certain celebrities nuts. I'm sorry that you find that offensive but "offensive" things are pretty much par for the course on a message board. We're not talking about a member here having mental illness. We are talking about a random celebrity making bad choices.

Given everything I've posted about mental illness and psychiatric disorders, I find it interesting that one post about Halle Berry would the one that someone would take to heart.
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Right.

This is a thread about a celebrity...of course it's speculation. I stand by my statement...I think she's crazy, and a whackadoodle. Why that has to turn into any level of "seriousness" is beyond me. Halle is probably somewhere with Olivier Martinez, crazy or not. She's good. Let's lighten up. It ain't that heavy. Oh and that's coming from someone who has suffered from depression.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
You can stand by your judgement--that's fine.

I work in mental health. There are a lot of people out there suffering from mental illness who don't seek help because of discussions like this--they are afraid of the "crazy," "whackadoodle," and "nut job" labels. Whether we are talking about a celebrity or Ray-Ray on the corner, these words diminish the disease and the person suffering from it. So yeah, to me it is that serious.
Originally Posted by Layali
Well, if you and others find it offensive, report it. You can always do that.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette

I wouldn't report you to the mods. This is a civil exchange. You're not slinging insults at me or vice versa. I'm just letting you know that these words have power and are unfair and insulting to people with mental illness. What you do with this info is up to you.
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What she's saying is that "crazy" is considered an ableist slur. Now, I don't quite agree with banning it from the lexicon in all aspects of life, because I don't think it works the same way as gender/racial/sexual slurs, but I do understand what layali is saying and why it bothers her.
Originally Posted by Saria
I get that. People pick their fights. There have been all kinds of things said in OT that offended somebody, for reasons known and unknown....and that's they way it goes. The internet is not a "sterile" environment.
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Right.

This is a thread about a celebrity...of course it's speculation. I stand by my statement...I think she's crazy, and a whackadoodle. Why that has to turn into any level of "seriousness" is beyond me. Halle is probably somewhere with Olivier Martinez, crazy or not. She's good. Let's lighten up. It ain't that heavy. Oh and that's coming from someone who has suffered from depression.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
You can stand by your judgement--that's fine.

I work in mental health. There are a lot of people out there suffering from mental illness who don't seek help because of discussions like this--they are afraid of the "crazy," "whackadoodle," and "nut job" labels. Whether we are talking about a celebrity or Ray-Ray on the corner, these words diminish the disease and the person suffering from it. So yeah, to me it is that serious.
Originally Posted by Layali
Sure, you're entitled to your opinion.

Just like people call certain celebrities fat or homely or any number of other things, they will call certain celebrities nuts. I'm sorry that you find that offensive but "offensive" things are pretty much par for the course on a message board. We're not talking about a member here having mental illness. We are talking about a random celebrity making bad choices.

Given everything I've posted about mental illness and psychiatric disorders, I find it interesting that one post about Halle Berry would the one that someone would take to heart.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Exactly.
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Halle is a nut job. David Justice, eric benet, on & on. She's a straight up Bag lady--one day he gon say you crowding my space.

I hope she packs light for this trip.

she may just attract ain't sh%t guys but she needs to find out what traits she has that attracts them.

Are we really so sensitive now that we can say "crazy"? I am sending my kid to school with a peanut butter sandwich tomorrow to piss of peanut allergy parents
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Halle is a nut job. David Justice, eric benet, on & on. She's a straight up Bag lady--one day he gon say you crowding my space.

I hope she packs light for this trip.

she may just attract ain't sh%t guys but she needs to find out what traits she has that attracts them.

Are we really so sensitive now that we can say "crazy"? I am sending my kid to school with a peanut butter sandwich tomorrow to piss of peanut allergy parents
Originally Posted by sienna40
Okay, see, I already said I don't consider crazy on par with certain slurs, but I don't care to see someone labeled as too sensitive for taking offense to it. It's exactly the same thing said to people for pointing out something is racist, sexist, or homophobic.

Yes, ableism is taken as a legitimate social problem and "crazy" is seen as on par as words like "whore", "slut", "***" or the n-word in that it's seen as oppressive language towards people with mental illnesses.
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Right.

This is a thread about a celebrity...of course it's speculation. I stand by my statement...I think she's crazy, and a whackadoodle. Why that has to turn into any level of "seriousness" is beyond me. Halle is probably somewhere with Olivier Martinez, crazy or not. She's good. Let's lighten up. It ain't that heavy. Oh and that's coming from someone who has suffered from depression.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
You can stand by your judgement--that's fine.

I work in mental health. There are a lot of people out there suffering from mental illness who don't seek help because of discussions like this--they are afraid of the "crazy," "whackadoodle," and "nut job" labels. Whether we are talking about a celebrity or Ray-Ray on the corner, these words diminish the disease and the person suffering from it. So yeah, to me it is that serious.
Originally Posted by Layali
Sure, you're entitled to your opinion.

Just like people call certain celebrities fat or homely or any number of other things, they will call certain celebrities nuts. I'm sorry that you find that offensive but "offensive" things are pretty much par for the course on a message board. We're not talking about a member here having mental illness. We are talking about a random celebrity making bad choices.

Given everything I've posted about mental illness and psychiatric disorders, I find it interesting that one post about Halle Berry would the one that someone would take to heart.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
It's not just that Halle Berry has made bad choices--she actually suffers from mental illness to the point that she has been suicidal. That's where I take issue. Calling somebody who has mental illness "whackadoodle" or "nut job" is making light of their issues. Doesn't matter who it is.

It just so happened that I saw this thread and commented on it. It has nothing to do with Halle Berry. I take frequent long breaks from this board.

I'm not attacking anybody here. Just letting y'all know why those labels are insulting and dismissive. It's a discussion board--a place to discuss things.
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^I understood what you meant and that you weren't attacking anyone.

You can stand by your judgement--that's fine.

I work in mental health. There are a lot of people out there suffering from mental illness who don't seek help because of discussions like this--they are afraid of the "crazy," "whackadoodle," and "nut job" labels. Whether we are talking about a celebrity or Ray-Ray on the corner, these words diminish the disease and the person suffering from it. So yeah, to me it is that serious.
Originally Posted by Layali
Sure, you're entitled to your opinion.

Just like people call certain celebrities fat or homely or any number of other things, they will call certain celebrities nuts. I'm sorry that you find that offensive but "offensive" things are pretty much par for the course on a message board. We're not talking about a member here having mental illness. We are talking about a random celebrity making bad choices.

Given everything I've posted about mental illness and psychiatric disorders, I find it interesting that one post about Halle Berry would the one that someone would take to heart.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Exactly.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
What she's saying is that "crazy" is considered an ableist slur. Now, I don't quite agree with banning it from the lexicon in all aspects of life, because I don't think it works the same way as gender/racial/sexual slurs, but I do understand what layali is saying and why it bothers her.
Originally Posted by Saria
I get that. People pick their fights. There have been all kinds of things said in OT that offended somebody, for reasons known and unknown....and that's they way it goes. The internet is not a "sterile" environment.
Originally Posted by Ninjarette
It's not just that it's offensive or on par with calling someone homely, but that words like "crazy", "lame", "psycho", and such are considered oppressive slurs towards people with mental and physical disabilities. That's what she's trying to say. Considering Halle has actually dealt with real mental illness, she feels it's offensive to refer to her in such terms. Whether you agree or not is another matter, but I think layali just wanted to bring up something she sees and disagrees with.
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What she's saying is that "crazy" is considered an ableist slur. Now, I don't quite agree with banning it from the lexicon in all aspects of life, because I don't think it works the same way as gender/racial/sexual slurs, but I do understand what layali is saying and why it bothers her.
Originally Posted by Saria
Thank you! I personally don't use the word crazy to describe people, because of my job and the respect I have for my clients. Y'all can do whatever, but if someone challenges you, don't be surprised.

I think that bias against mental illness is one of the remaining acceptable prejudices (along with obesity). Society makes light of the mentally ill in ways we never would with any other condition. You wouldn't dare to call someone with a physical/developmental disability a retard, would you?
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Last edited by Layali; 01-11-2012 at 09:38 PM.
they also make fun of fat people. It's just one of those things.





ummmm so, are you saying that if we didn't know she had these mental illnesses it would be okay to say she's "crazy", and since she does have mental illnesses we can't say she's "crazy"?


Well, I know I don't like to be called crazy, but then in the back of my head, I remember this saying about how crazy people don't know they're crazy so they don't like to be called crazy, and then I'm like...omg I must be crazy because I don't actually think I'm crazy but I am crazy.

And no, I'm not making light of it, because I have aunts who do have mental illnesses, and I suffer from depression and anxiety, and I know that it sucks.

But then you have where people are like, yo so and so broke into bonquiqui's house and then someone will say "oh man, that's crazy" Then what? Do you say, no it's not, you can't call it crazy.

This is just a hard word, But I kinda understand where you're coming from because I hate when people call things gay, and I always have to say "gay is A okay" and now it's a habit, I'm not gay personally but I don't like to hear that word used for something that is "stupid" or "lame" but can I say lame now? because what about people who have like a lame leg? isn't that insulting.....................I think I just farted my brain.

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