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Old 01-16-2012, 06:06 PM   #1
 
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Default A white woman is the only love interest in new movie "Red Tails (Tuskegee Airmen)"

I just wanted to give Black women who are planning on seeing this movie a heads up. I attended an advanced screening for the film, "Red Tails," and there are absolutely NO Black women in this picture. Not a single soldier talks about a girlfriend, a wife, a sister or a mother in the film. No one even has a picture of Lena Horne on the wall! The only woman in the film is white; she plays the love interest to one of the black pilots. In real life, the Tuskegee Airmen were all married to black women,but the movie creator(s) saw fit to erase every single one of these black wives, and only feature a white female love interest for one of the black male characters.

Every war movie *except* those with black soldiers show the soldiers fighting to come home to their women (of the same race). This is true for every white war movie from the black and white era, to "Saving Private Ryan" and right on down to "The Dirty Dozen." When it comes to black soldiers, movie makers find ingenious ways of leaving black women out! This trend even touched "A Soldier's Story." I'm sure just as many and more IR happened with white soldiers, but guess what? Those are rarely-if-ever put front and center, if they even get shown at all, in hero movies with majority white casts.

George Lucas says he worked on this movie for 20 YEARS. Both of the screen writers are BLACK MEN. The director is a Black man. There are about 15 Black actors in this movie. You mean to tell me NONE of these men noticed that they didn't have wives, mothers or sisters? It was not an accident or an oversight that Black women were excised from this movie, this was intentional. There is always a angle in war movies that involves women. Whether its The Patriot or Saving Private Ryan, the women these men leave back home have a presence in the movie.

And now black women, who are once again NOT shown as women worth fighting for, are supposed to bear the burden of supporting “Red Tails.” Otherwise, we risk seeming ungrateful to Hollywood, unsupportive of black male actors, close minded to interracial themes or just plain too ignorant to see period pieces or anything that doesn't have Tyler Perry’s name on it.

Think about your daughters. If they are going to watch a film celebrating Black achievements, why are they discounted and pushed to the sidelines always for someone white? It doesn't matter how 'positive' the movie is in other regards, this is plain disgusting and just shows the contempt that these movie makers have for Black women. They expect us to automatically support with our dollars anything that degrades or just plain erases us from reality. It's a joke. Once again, Hollywood, gets the chance to put out a movie that tells the world (and it WILL be in worldwide distribution) that Black men value anyone and everyone other than Black women. If I were a black women who cares about her image, I would boycott this and advise other black women to do the same.

The boycott has begun, please join us:
Um,So Why am I supposed to see Red Tails? Are any Black women in it?
Should Black Women Boycott Red Tails?
But Does Anyone Really Want to See Red Tails?


Here are the stars of the flick "Red Tails," with their real life leading ladies:


Jessica Oyelowo wife of David Oyelowo


Sara Kapfer Gooding and husband Cuba Gooding jr.


Sarah de Santo Parker w/ Husband Nate Parker


Racist soon to be ex wife w/Terence Howard

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Old 01-16-2012, 06:14 PM   #2
 
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This is interesting. The question that comes to my mind is why is this? I've done a little reading on the way African American women are viewed in America and the way it's changed from the days of slavery. So this does make me wonder and am curious to hear more opinions
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nope, black people should date and marry whoever they wish.
you've shown with your pictures that the actors are married to white women so where is the conflict?
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not really sure how the spouses of three actors in the movie has anything to o with anything.
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nope, black people should date and marry whoever they wish.
you've shown with your pictures that the actors are married to white women so where is the conflict?
i hope you actually read my post and not just looked at the pictures.

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not really sure how the spouses of three actors in the movie has anything to o with anything.

Yeah...it turned a good point about a movie into what seems to be a rant about interracial relationships.
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i skimmed your post, like i do almost all posts.

i think the overriding issue was trying to get the white audience to see this movie rather than promote interracial relationships or to shun black women.

instead of boycotting a positive movie why not boycott all the rappers or music that calls women btches and hoes?
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i skimmed your post, like i do almost all posts.

i think the overriding issue was trying to get the white audience to see this movie rather than promote interracial relationships or to shun black women.

instead of boycotting a positive movie why not boycott all the rappers or music that calls women btches and hoes?
Excellent point!
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i skimmed your post, like i do almost all posts.

i think the overriding issue was trying to get the white audience to see this movie rather than promote interracial relationships or to shun black women.

instead of boycotting a positive movie why not boycott all the rappers or music that calls women btches and hoes?
Excellent point about the rappers.
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i skimmed your post, like i do almost all posts.

i think the overriding issue was trying to get the white audience to see this movie rather than promote interracial relationships or to shun black women.

instead of boycotting a positive movie why not boycott all the rappers or music that calls women btches and hoes?
I agree.
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As soon as I saw the title of this thread, I figured I should get the popcorn goin...


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Huh. That is unfortunate. And, honestly, distasteful. Not too mention rather unrealistic. A movie about black men set in the damn 1940s and not one black female love interest? I don't care if it's unPC, that's hella suspect.

I don't care who the actors are dating IRL.
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instead of boycotting a positive movie why not boycott all the rappers or music that calls women btches and hoes?
QUOTED AGAIN FOR EMPHASIS:

It doesn't matter how 'positive' the movie is in other regards, this is plain disgusting and just shows the contempt that these movie makers have for Black women. They expect us to automatically support with our dollars anything that degrades or just plain erases us from reality. It's a joke. Once again, Hollywood, gets the chance to put out a movie that tells the world (and it WILL be in worldwide distribution) that Black men value anyone and everyone other than Black women. If I were a black women who cares about her image, I would boycott this and advise other black women to do the same.
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If I was writing the screenplay for a war movie, I might not include scenes of the wives either, as that might detract from the main focus. The first act of a movie should start from a point that is relevant to the story. If the characters spend all their time away from their homes and the conflict doesn't relate to their families, then that side of their lives that isn't relevant to the story. Too many movies nowadays start with unnecessary background information because it is thought this will make characters more well rounded, but you should learn about the characters by the way they act and react as the story progresses. Think of 12 Angry Men. You don't meet the characters until they are already in the jury room, but their personalities emerge once they start clashing over their opinions.

I agree that women, BW especially, need to be better depicted on screen (12 Angry Men is a good example of a movie that is mysteriously deprived of any female characters) but a war movie in a time women didn't enlist doesn't seem like the right medium to promote gender equality. A movie like this could at best only provide very brief and fleeting scenes of BW and that's hardly satisfying.
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Doesn't boycotting hurt the actors and the ability to get other pictures with a cast made up predominantly from people of color? Wouldn't be better to send an open letter voicing concerns and have dialog? Also, if I am not mistaken, George Lucas's wife is African American.
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QUOTED AGAIN FOR EMPHASIS:

It doesn't matter how 'positive' the movie is in other regards, this is plain disgusting and just shows the contempt that these movie makers have for Black women. They expect us to automatically support with our dollars anything that degrades or just plain erases us from reality. It's a joke. Once again, Hollywood, gets the chance to put out a movie that tells the world (and it WILL be in worldwide distribution) that Black men value anyone and everyone other than Black women. If I were a black women who cares about her image, I would boycott this and advise other black women to do the same.
Ummm. Maybe if every single character in the movie were leaving their black wives to run off with white women.

As for black women caring about their image, just because someone doesn't feel the same way about this movie as you doesn't mean that don't care...
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If I were a black women who cares about her image, I would boycott this and advise other black women to do the same.
So you're not a black woman? And you only have 3 posts?
Um, yeah...someone is trying to stir up some trouble.

Also, I don't generally turn to hollywood (Tyler Perry included) for accurate portrayals of the black female experience.
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It's a shame that there are not more good female movie roles in general, and especially not roles for black women. I would not boycott this film over it, though. And i don't care who the actors are with.

12 Angry Men is not mysteriously deprived of female characters. There is no mystery. The film was made in 1957, the teleplay in 1954. Back then it was common for juries to be all male. A lot of states had laws that exempted women from jury duty automatically, only in 1975 did the Supreme Court rule that it was not OK to exempt women on the basis of sex.
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instead of boycotting a positive movie why not boycott all the rappers or music that calls women btches and hoes?
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It doesn't matter how 'positive' the movie is in other regards, this is plain disgusting and just shows the contempt that these movie makers have for Black women. They expect us to automatically support with our dollars anything that degrades or just plain erases us from reality. It's a joke. Once again, Hollywood, gets the chance to put out a movie that tells the world (and it WILL be in worldwide distribution) that Black men value anyone and everyone other than Black women. If I were a black women who cares about her image, I would boycott this and advise other black women to do the same.
Ummm. Maybe if every single character in the movie were leaving their black wives to run off with white women.

As for black women caring about their image, just because someone doesn't feel the same way about this movie as you doesn't mean that don't care...
Does the airman leave his black wife to be with the white woman?

Part of the problem with this is that we (excepting the OP) haven't even seen the movie (and I probably won't, even if I ignore the lack of black women).

Keeping in mind that I haven't seen the movie I think the point about "erasing" black women from the picture is very apt. If the writers were able to squeeze in the development of an interracial relationship, they could've taken the time to write a black love story...if they'd wanted to. I think the interesting question is: why didn't they want to? If the movie was just about WWII and acts of bravery, that would be one thing--there'd be no need for any relationships. But Lucas and co went out of their way to include a love interest. And they quite intentionally (no way this was an accident of casting, not considering the time period they were casting for) chose a white woman for one half of the couple. Why? Is this a movie about the triumph of interracial love in a time where it was extremely taboo? Or is it about the Tuskagee Airmen? Personally, I'm glad the OP brought this to my attention. Because as uninterested as I was in the latter (sorry *shrug*) I'm even less interested in the former. Definitely not worth my 10 bucks.

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I have a problem with the fact that Lucas is crying about this film to get a good ROI. No thanks. I will see Spikes next joint.
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