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Hi! I have a question about the mag malate dosing...I found some at the vitamin shoppe. The front of the bottle said 1250 mg, on the back nutritional info panel it said a "serving" was 425 mg, which is 3 tablets. So what does the 1250 even mean? At that dosage, should I start out taking 2 tabs a.m. and p.m. for a total of about 568 mg, or less than that?

Thanks so much!!
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
Thank you, both! I've been looking for magnesium everywhere! Not even the vitamin store or GNC sells a version not made from magnesium oxide!

Goldencurly, Before you tried the supplement, did you have panic attacks? If so, did it help? I suppose I'll have to talk to my doctor first since I'm already taking Prozac. I very much want to stop taking it though given that it doesn't seem to be helping anymore.
Originally Posted by DCWavyLady
I was able to find the magnesium crimson touts at the Vitamin Shoppe and a local health food store called Good Earth.
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What about just regular magnesium? I bought some from the grocery store yesterday. It was like $3 so i was like, oh what the heck...so i took two tablets. They're 250mg

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I was so fascinated by this lifestyle, I joined a VERY active Facebook group of people who are doing it -- "it" is generally 2 days a week, you eat 5 to 600 calories... then the other 5 days you eat whatever you want.

In addition to weight and inch loss, increased energy, and many other great health benefits, I've read quite a number of people saying they were getting a gret deal of relief from their fibro symptoms by eating this way!

It could be worth looking into, maybe?
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I've read that the magnesium typically sold in drugstores is made from magnesium oxide which is not absorbed well so it may not be as effective.
SmilingElephant,

I've read that the magnesium typically sold in drugstores is made from magnesium oxide which is not absorbed well so it may not be as effective.
Originally Posted by DCWavyLady
Oh...okay. I'll look for an oxide-free one then, but im still gonna use up what i have.

You guys, i am so tired. All i did was take a shower. Got sleepy, pushed myself to clean around the house and cook/eat breakfast. I know i won't sleep if i lay down tho.


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Having a rough day here, too! Middle back is tight, my head is aching, and my left arm feels like I pulled a muscle from increasing my weights for PT on Tuesday. On the upside, I found magnesium maleate at the vitamin shoppe yesterday; looking forward to possible positive impact on muscle pain. For those who take it-how many milligrams do you take each day?
Having a rough day here, too! Middle back is tight, my head is aching, and my left arm feels like I pulled a muscle from increasing my weights for PT on Tuesday. On the upside, I found magnesium maleate at the vitamin shoppe yesterday; looking forward to possible positive impact on muscle pain. For those who take it-how many milligrams do you take each day?
Originally Posted by DCWavyLady
I take 283 mg of magnesium maleate, 200 mg of magnesium bis-glyinate and 250 mg of magnesium oxide. I also use magnesium oil that I make from equal parts boiling water and magnesium chloride flakes. For me, taking multiple forms of magnesium instead of high doses of one kind works best; I tolerate it better and have better relief.

SmilingElephant - the BEST stuff ever to fight fatigue and exhaustion is D-Ribose. It's a sugar but don't worry, it doesn't seem to raise your blood sugar or cause weight gain (2 worries I had before starting it!) I take between 8 and 12 grams per day, in 4 gram dozes. If it's a good day, I just take a morning dose and a dose at supper. If it is a bad day for feeling so tired, I add a dose at lunch time. Staying active helps me be stronger too. I started with walking indoors for 5 minutes at a time. Before I broke my foot, I could walk a couple of miles on a good day. My foot is still broken, so my walking is limited to just normal daily getting around, no "exercise". So I do a lot of stretching and lifting very light weights. I also use those elastic physical therapy bands too. Exercise started very gently and built up over time keeps me strong and helps my endurance and the quality of my sleep improves. Just don't over do it! If I do, then I regret it for days and days.
I use the following : Amazon.com: Jarrow Formulas Ribose Muscle Edge Powder, 100g: Health & Personal Care

Amazon.com: SOURCE NATURALS Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 100mg 60 TAB: Health & Personal Care

Amazon.com: Source Naturals, Magnesium Malate 1250 mg 90 Tablets: Health & Personal Care

Amazon.com: Magnesium Chloride Flakes 2.2 lb (35.27 oz) Flakes by Swanson Ultra: Health & Personal Care

Amazon.com: THORNE RESEARCH - Deproloft-HF - 120 caps [Health and Beauty]: Health & Personal Care

The magnesium pills are larger than say extra strength Tylenol. Spring - you could try tricking them down in a spoon of applesauce or even use a pill cutter to halve them first.

The last item Deproloft-HF really has improved my quality of sleep. I started taking it for anxiety/depression. It helps me not feel so overwhelmed and makes me feel more relaxed and settled without making me feel like a zombie - which is what Cymbalta did. I will take it as long as I can afford it just for the improved sleep!!! And the good news - these are pretty small.

All the magnesium has helped my achiness and throbbing in my legs and back and I no longer have cramps in my feet in the middle of the night.

Spring - have you talked to your doctor about fibromyalgia? When mine was trying to figure out what was wrong with me, all my blood tests were perfectly normal. She did some kind of pressure point test to confirm it was FM. Just putting a name to it was a relief because I thought I was nuts to keep complaining about how bad I felt. I know I sounded crazy but it was true.

Smiling Elephant - (((HUGS))) Hang in there. If you are taking meds for fibromyalgia, wean off them slowly - coming off can be brutal and send you spiralling into worse pain. I took 4+ months to wean off Lyrica. I saw a chiropractor 1 - 2 times a week during that period. It was incredibly expensive to pay that co-pay but it really helped me deal with it. I wish I had known about magnesium and ribose back then!

FM just sucks.
Originally Posted by goldencurly
I am so glad to find this thread! I just realized recently that all the sore places on my body - for YEARS - are the exact same as all of the tender points in the fibromyalgia diagrams. I saw one and thought "that's me!" I thought it was because of two car accidents I was in in rapid succession about 20 years ago. I've been going to the chiropractor and using anything from hubby's body rubs to body rub cream to finding any good way to stretch to make the pain go away ever since. My sore spots have now become my erogenous zones lol. If my husband can get those to feel better, I am happy.

Goldencurly - I'm going to try your dosages from above - great info!

Btw - what is the difference between magnesium bis-glycinate and magnesium glycinate? Vitacost only has the second - would either be fine?

Last edited by asugirl; 02-17-2013 at 01:18 PM.
What about just regular magnesium? I bought some from the grocery store yesterday. It was like $3 so i was like, oh what the heck...so i took two tablets. They're 250mg

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Originally Posted by SmilingElephant
This type of magnesium isnt absorable so you wont get all the benefits from iy. You absorb around 4% so you can see why it's cheap.
There's no issue with finishing what you have... just don't take too much as mag oxide is mostly a laxative.

Last edited by crimsonshedemon; 02-17-2013 at 06:56 PM.
Having a rough day here, too! Middle back is tight, my head is aching, and my left arm feels like I pulled a muscle from increasing my weights for PT on Tuesday. On the upside, I found magnesium maleate at the vitamin shoppe yesterday; looking forward to possible positive impact on muscle pain. For those who take it-how many milligrams do you take each day?
Originally Posted by DCWavyLady
You want to start very slowly! Magnesium is a natural laxative so if you take too much, your bowels can't handle it. Start with 1 tablet morning and night.. see how it goes for a few days. Then increase by 1 tablet. I take over 1000mg a day and use magnesium oil. Adding a transdermal magnesium is the best way to quickly reduce your magnesium deficient... so using oral and transdermal. I spray it on my skin and do foot soaks.
Hi! I have a question about the mag malate dosing...I found some at the vitamin shoppe. The front of the bottle said 1250 mg, on the back nutritional info panel it said a "serving" was 425 mg, which is 3 tablets. So what does the 1250 even mean? At that dosage, should I start out taking 2 tabs a.m. and p.m. for a total of about 568 mg, or less than that?

Thanks so much!!
Originally Posted by VTmom
I use Source Naturals mag malate 1250mg. I have no idea what the 1250mg means... has nothing to do with the amount of elemental magnesium or the amount of malic acid. I keep meaning to email them and ask.
I would not start out that quickly. I would start with 1 tablet morning and night. If your stomach and bowels are tough, then maybe 1 in the morning, 2 at night for 425mg a day.
My doctor had me start at 400mg twice a day and it KILLED my stomach.... omg the pain and vomiting.
How fast your work up depends on your gut. I didn't notice any significant improvement until I was at 600mg for a couple weeks. Adding a magnesium oil (made from magnesium chloride flakes) and using it several times a week will go a long ways in improving your magnesium deficiency.

Btw - what is the difference between magnesium bis-glycinate and magnesium glycinate? Vitacost only has the second - would either be fine?
Originally Posted by asugirl
I use KAL magnesium glycinate. IIRC, bisglycinate means it's bound with 2 glycine molecules. I find that I respond best to using 2 forms of oral magnesium- magnesium malate and magnesium glycinate. Mag Malate is excellent for energy and muscle pain. Mag glycinate is very relaxing. I use the mag glycinate at night for this reason.
If you have problems swallowing large tablets, you can use the capsule forms which are a lot smaller but you usually need to take more.
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I started taking magnesium about a year ago for really bad leg cramps I was getting and the change I saw was amazing, it really helped! It was just the cheap stuff, whatever was on sale at the drugstore or I could get at Costco so I'd be interested to see what magnesium malate could do for me. I'd love to find something that is one pill a day though because they tend to be big and I have issues with swallowing large pills. I can get the first one down, but if I have to do more than one it gets tough. I know it's all in my head and I'm trying overcome it, but still have problems with it.
Originally Posted by spring1onu
You can use the capsules instead or there's a powder form. Magnesium is best absorbed taken at least twice a day... you will not get the same benefits just from taking it once a day and you're bowels won't likely be happy. But by adding magnesium oil, you can reduce the amount of oral mag you need to swallow. I've added foot soaks to increase my magnesium intake. Super easy.

the best price for ribose is at Puritan's Pride when on sale. Buy 2 get 3 free... you get 5 tubs at 250 grams each for 100$ 20$ each. They occasionally have buy 2 get 4 free which takes it to 17$. Shop thru extrabux and earn money back (12% last time I purchased so it really saves money)

SmilingElephant - the BEST stuff ever to fight fatigue and exhaustion is D-Ribose. It's a sugar but don't worry, it doesn't seem to raise your blood sugar or cause weight gain (2 worries I had before starting it!) I take between 8 and 12 grams per day, in 4 gram dozes. If it's a good day, I just take a morning dose and a dose at supper. If it is a bad day for feeling so tired, I add a dose at lunch time. Staying active helps me be stronger too. I started with walking indoors for 5 minutes at a time. Before I broke my foot, I could walk a couple of miles on a good day. My foot is still broken, so my walking is limited to just normal daily getting around, no "exercise". So I do a lot of stretching and lifting very light weights. I also use those elastic physical therapy bands too. Exercise started very gently and built up over time keeps me strong and helps my endurance and the quality of my sleep improves. Just don't over do it! If I do, then I regret it for days and days.
Originally Posted by goldencurly
I agree Ribose is the best!!! I prefer it over Provigil. I take 5 grams 2-3 times a day, sometimes more depending on how tired I am. I also use Ubiquinol and acetyl l-carnitine for energy.
You don't find that an evening dose interferes with your sleep?
I use Source Naturals mag malate 1250mg. I have no idea what the 1250mg means... has nothing to do with the amount of elemental magnesium or the amount of malic acid. I keep meaning to email them and ask.
I would not start out that quickly. I would start with 1 tablet morning and night. If your stomach and bowels are tough, then maybe 1 in the morning, 2 at night for 425mg a day.
My doctor had me start at 400mg twice a day and it KILLED my stomach.... omg the pain and vomiting.
How fast your work up depends on your gut. I didn't notice any significant improvement until I was at 600mg for a couple weeks. Adding a magnesium oil (made from magnesium chloride flakes) and using it several times a week will go a long ways in improving your magnesium deficiency.
Originally Posted by crimsonshedemon
Thank you! I've been taking magnesium for a while, but I've only just ordered the malate today, so I'm anxious to see the difference!
The smallest deed is greater than the grandest intention.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. (Invictus - William Ernest Henley)

Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that,
Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny, 'til I wound up poor and fat,
Nowadays I kind of worry where my mind's been at,
Just think I used to worry 'bout things like that. (Delbert McClinton - I Used to Worry from Never Been Rocked Enough)
Well, I finally placed an order! GoldenCurly, I got everything you suggested from Amazon because it all sounded like it could be beneficial for me so we'll see how it goes.

I take thyroid medications in the morning so I've got to double check to see if any of the supplements should be avoided in combination with those and figure out a schedule. I'm finally going to have to get one of those AM/PM vitamin boxes like my grandmother had.

We did yard work today and I could really use those magnesium flakes right now to do a foot soak. Actually, I'd like to dunk my entire body in and soak because I'm so stiff and sore, but the yard looks so much better!

Thanks again to everyone offering up advice. I'm excited to try some new things!




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The amount of time from slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is exactly one bananosecond.
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I've decided that I'll never get down to my original weight, and I'm OK with that--After all, 8 pounds 2 oz. is just not realistic.
Well, I finally placed an order! GoldenCurly, I got everything you suggested from Amazon because it all sounded like it could be beneficial for me so we'll see how it goes.

I take thyroid medications in the morning so I've got to double check to see if any of the supplements should be avoided in combination with those and figure out a schedule. I'm finally going to have to get one of those AM/PM vitamin boxes like my grandmother had.

We did yard work today and I could really use those magnesium flakes right now to do a foot soak. Actually, I'd like to dunk my entire body in and soak because I'm so stiff and sore, but the yard looks so much better!

Thanks again to everyone offering up advice. I'm excited to try some new things!
Originally Posted by spring1onu
I laughed when I read this because I had the Magnesium Malate in my Amazon cart and forgot to finalize the order - just left the page open. After I read this I went back to my order, tried to process and it said there were none left. There had only been one when I placed it in my cart - so you got it Spring1onu! Finders keepers losers weepers
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asugirl, oh my goodness! Oops!

I think that's one I did a search on and there are other vendors that carry it and it was only a tiny bit more. I really tried to do some shopping around and price comparison at different sites, but it's all just too much and I finally just went ahead and ordered it all with Amazon to make it less of a headache.




Byron,GA> Charleston, SC> Jacksonville, FL> Guilford, CT> Rohnert Park, CA! A southern drawl in sunny Cali! .
The amount of time from slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is exactly one bananosecond.
I do have a secret yen for pink in unexpected places. ~ninja dog
I've decided that I'll never get down to my original weight, and I'm OK with that--After all, 8 pounds 2 oz. is just not realistic.
asugirl, oh my goodness! Oops!

I think that's one I did a search on and there are other vendors that carry it and it was only a tiny bit more. I really tried to do some shopping around and price comparison at different sites, but it's all just too much and I finally just went ahead and ordered it all with Amazon to make it less of a headache.
Originally Posted by spring1onu
I snoozed Spring so I lose - I'm glad it was you who got it - one of my NC buds - instead of someone else. It was a really good price but I will still get some no problem!

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