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Old 02-08-2012, 09:30 PM   #41
 
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According to the wrist test, I have a small frame? My fingers overlap.

I guess I believe it, but fat goes to the lower half of my body (and my boobs)... My waist is pretty small. Usually around 26" compared to my hips are that 40" and I'm a 34DDD. So, although I carry fat in my lower body, if I lose weight you start to see my ribs. It's kinda weird.

Apparently, I should lose 20lbs. I think I'll look gross if I was to lose that amount of weight, IDK!



I think I look fine as is.
You're freaking HOT!

(You also sure appear healthy, not over or underweight from that photo!)
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:25 AM   #42
 
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Where did you get that scale??? I need 1 of those!!!
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I have mixed feelings about BMI. When I was in college, my weight was in the acceptable range for my height (near the upper limit). I wasn't particularly athletic. I've since gained and lost and regained a significant amount of weight, but became extremely physically active. (I can run circles around my skinny self. Literally) Looking back on pics of myself at a "healthy weight," I look too thin (a doctor that I speak to regularly agreed with this). Besides the muscle mass thing, my biggest issue is that BMI doesn't take bone size/mass into account, which at least the old charts did. I have extremely solid bones (my scale measures everything and my bone mass hovers at very high end normal to above normal). I'm not saying that I don't need to lose more weight (I do). But I tell my friends I have about 40 pounds to lose (which would still leave me overweight by BMI- would need to lose an additional 15 pounds to reach "healthy") and they look at me like I'm nuts.

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Old 02-09-2012, 04:55 AM   #43
 
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Where did you get that scale??? I need 1 of those!!!

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It's a Weight Watchers scale that I got a couple years ago. I think I got it at Bed, Bath and Beyond. I love it. I know you can't take the non-weight measurements as gospel, but I still like to track everything. You program the scale with sex, age, and height. Then when you weigh in it lists weight, body fat weight (how many pounds of fat you're carrying), body fat percentage, body water (as a percentage), and bone mass (as a percentage). I know these things aren't 100% accurate, but I've still been able to watch the numbers shift around as my body composition has changed.

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Meko is a perfect example of what's wrong with BMI tables.

if that's overweight, i'm in worse shape than i thought!

when the tables were changed to lower weights, the medical and diet industries suddenly created a whole class of people who required drugs and treatment and intervention. people who were a "normal" weight or merely "overweight" THE DAY BEFORE.

what's even sicker about this, is that it happened AFTER the fen-phen debacle!

and the tables make no allowance for the biological imperative that women's bodies naturally (for the most part) carry more fat than men's.

never mind the stupidity of any table that suggests that super-fit, muscular people are "overweight"...

bmi is NOT an accurate predictor for weight OR, especially, health!
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:38 AM   #45
 
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After years of counting fat grams, carbs, sugar, this, that, the other, I decided to go with what makes sense to me: count calories in, count calories used.

After years of focusing on the 'five pounds an inch over 5' (5'2"? then your best weight is 110; 5'6"? your best weight is 130) or some other fantasy insurance scale, I settled on a weight that let me feel feminine, curvy, yet kept me able to easily do cardio for 45 minutes.

What is health? Good cholesterol levels, good blood pressure, and a weight that allows both of those to happen consistently
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:06 AM   #46
 
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According to my wrists (6.5"), I have a medium-large frame. That calculator says 110. I think it has trouble with short people. On Livestrong, I found and article that indicated 115-135 would be ideal for me, using the same measurement (wrist circumference). Knowing my body, that is definitely a better weight. I'm still over 30 lbs away, though!

Anyway, use common sense. You guys know that. :-P YMMV, and all that.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:31 AM   #47
 
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I've been a size 12 since 6th grade and I've always been a normal looking size. I think once I grew some hips and booty it determined my size. It was only until after I had my daughter and gained some post breastfeeding weight that 12s aren't fitting anymore. I've weighed 130lbs-165lbs and still wore a 11-12-13. And at this point my booty is big and I like it so I'm going to work on getting rid of my belly but building muscle in my butt and thighs. So I take bmi just for general reference but not specifically for me.

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I've decided that if I live a healthy lifestyle, which means eating well more than not (ie. concious lower calorie clean eating with the occasional treat), and exercising vigourously for about 30 minutes a day on average, then my body will figure out what my ideal weight is supposed to be.

I'm a big believer in setting fitness goals: running a certain distance and/or pace, excelling at a particular sport... let that motivation bring you into healthy shape, whatever that may be for you.

I've been working hard for the last 6 months to lose some extra weight that I packed on in the last 2 years, on top of a little baby weight I've been carrying since having my 2nd kid 4 year years ago. I aimed for the weight I was before kids and I now realize that I'm not going to reach that target. Or rather, I've realized that in order to reach it, I'm going to have to take both my eating habits and exercise habits to an extreme that I won't be able to sustain and that's not worth the effort. My body is just not the same as it was 10 years ago.

But I'm happy with where I am now both in terms of my fitness level and my eating plan. If a bit more weight comes off, that's fabulous, but more likely my body will get a bit more toned and stay at the weight I'm at now.

With regards to BMI - at my height (5ft1), the range is from 90lbs to 127 lbs. That is a ridiculously huge range (basically +/- 30% of total body weight!). Obviously that can't be an acceptable range for a single individual and can't be interpreted that way.
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If you check the USDA's site, you can find a chart for what they consider to be healthy weight, underweight, overweight, obese, and morbidly obese--all this based on your height. I do think they include BMI too.

BMI is a tricky thing to calculate because other factors like muscle mass and water weight can effect it. I try not to worry about BMI until I've reached my goal weight.
This is completely incorrect. BMI is based only on height and weight. Nothing else comes into play at all. BMI=weight in kilograms divided by height in meters squared. That's all.
I think she was saying that muscle mass and water weight affect your weight, but BMI doesn't take that into account (I could be wrong though). That's why it's not accurate for athletes. But regular folks like me, yea, I'd say it's pretty accurate.
Yep! That's what I was talking about.
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I ran across this a few years ago Illustrated BMI Categories - a set on Flickr
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Meko is a perfect example of what's wrong with BMI tables.

if that's overweight, i'm in worse shape than i thought!

when the tables were changed to lower weights, the medical and diet industries suddenly created a whole class of people who required drugs and treatment and intervention. people who were a "normal" weight or merely "overweight" THE DAY BEFORE.

what's even sicker about this, is that it happened AFTER the fen-phen debacle!

and the tables make no allowance for the biological imperative that women's bodies naturally (for the most part) carry more fat than men's.

never mind the stupidity of any table that suggests that super-fit, muscular people are "overweight"...

bmi is NOT an accurate predictor for weight OR, especially, health!
BMI doesn't take fat into account, and fat weighs less than muscle. And BMI does NOT suggest that super-fit muscular people are overweight. There is a disclaimer on BMI that even says it is not for athletes, people with eating disorders, or extremely obese people.

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The BMI is not a true measure of body fat but is commonly used in research as one measure of change in population fatness. On an individual basis it is not a measure of fatness, but rather "stoutness". If used as a measure of fatness the BMI will overestimate body fat in athletes and pregnant women, and underestimate body fat in persons that have lost muscle such as seniors or persons with chronic disease. The BMI is also not an accurate indicator for people with eating disorders like anorexia nervosa or people with extreme obesity.

The BMI is also not meant for children under the age of 18. During these years the body is growing fast and that affects the calculation. For children we use different, age specific, tables.
People keep bringing up the point about athletes, but it's moot.
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According to the wrist test, I have a small frame? My fingers overlap.

I guess I believe it, but fat goes to the lower half of my body (and my boobs)... My waist is pretty small. Usually around 26" compared to my hips are that 40" and I'm a 34DDD. So, although I carry fat in my lower body, if I lose weight you start to see my ribs. It's kinda weird.

Apparently, I should lose 20lbs. I think I'll look gross if I was to lose that amount of weight, IDK!



I think I look fine as is.
You look wonderful as is.
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