So, um, JFK raped this woman...

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I'm with scrills. This comment makes NO sense to me at all.
Originally Posted by iroc
I've been thinking a lot about it since it was first said because it didn't make much sense to me either at first. I pulled it out of the context of this particular situation and tried to think of it in a general sense, and now I think I get it. I think it's the same way a woman can be considered to have been abused by a partner, regardless of the fact that she may deny such treatment was abuse at all and defends her partner's actions. We see such things happen all the time, even on this board.

When looked at that way, it makes more sense. To me, anyway.
Originally Posted by Nallia

But that analogy isn't going to work because there is a consentual form of rape, which is sex. You can willingly have sex with someone - you can't willingly be physically abused by someone. There isn't a consentual form of being beaten by your partner.
Originally Posted by iroc
Sure there is...BDSM.
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I've been thinking a lot about it since it was first said because it didn't make much sense to me either at first. I pulled it out of the context of this particular situation and tried to think of it in a general sense, and now I think I get it. I think it's the same way a woman can be considered to have been abused by a partner, regardless of the fact that she may deny such treatment was abuse at all and defends her partner's actions. We see such things happen all the time, even on this board.

When looked at that way, it makes more sense. To me, anyway.
Originally Posted by Nallia
Thank you, Nallia. That's a good analogy and I appreciate the help, since I obviously didn't explain myself very well earlier!

Also, I would never, ever presume to tell this woman what her experience was. I am expressing my opinion on a message board, not to her face.

That's why I said the bolded:

Just because this woman doesn't categorize it as rape doesn't mean it wasn't rape in the general or legal sense. It just means it wasn't rape to her.

In the context of this conversation, that point is quite relevant.
Originally Posted by wild~hair
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