Republicans retreat on domestic violence

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/op...-violence.html

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Nice.. stay classy Republicans.

Why do they hate women so much?
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Because you never can tell whether we were "really" raped or not?
Wow. The Violence Against Women Act is extremely important, and the improvements mentioned in the article are sorely needed.

This is terrifying.
I feel like they're trying to take the country hostage until they get their way.
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The Republican leadership is anti-people. It's not even bigotry now. It's just general sadism.
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Why do they hate women so much?
Originally Posted by BekkaPoo


Because everything that could possibly affect WHITE men is Baaaaaaad.
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I'd like to hear from a Republican on this subject. These are wealthy, often highly successful men. They can't all hate women and/or POC. (I do think Newt and Ron Paul are kooks, though, so basically, I'm talking about Romney.)

Any chance we can open this up for another perspective? Misspam? Anyone?
The Republican leadership is anti-people. It's not even bigotry now. It's just general sadism.
Originally Posted by Eilonwy
It sure seems that way.
I'd like to hear from a Republican on this subject. These are wealthy, often highly successful men. They can't all hate women and/or POC. (I do think Newt and Ron Paul are kooks, though, so basically, I'm talking about Romney.)
Originally Posted by ninja dog

I don't think "hate" is the right word. I think Republicans like women just fine. As long as they aren't uppity. As long as they aren't trying to take over the domain of white men. I don't personally understand why women or minorities would ever be members of the Republicans, but I do know there are plenty of women who are against the feminism movement. They want women to go back to being less, when men were allowed to be "men". They feel feminism has emasculated American men, and they would much prefer going back to a time when (white) men had less competition for jobs and status.
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I'm skeptical of this, which is why I'd like to hear from a member of the party.

I personally would be miserable under the circumstances you describe.
I have no idea how many women also actually feel this way, but this was posted on FB this morning:



A quick google search says she said that quote to the Kansas City Star in 2001.
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So.....what's she doing as a Senator? It takes plenty of drive and effort to get to that level. Does she abstain from voting on the Senate floor, and is therefore ineffective?

I can't understand that kind of thinking. Voting is precious to me. I'd be lost without my career.
I have no idea how many women also actually feel this way, but this was posted on FB this morning:



A quick google search says she said that quote to the Kansas City Star in 2001.
Originally Posted by Nallia
My head just exploded. So, what is she doing being a senator? Shouldn't she be at home slaving away for some man?

People like this need to go away, forever.
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So.....what's she doing as a Senator? It takes plenty of drive and effort to get to that level. Does she abstain from voting on the Senate floor, and is therefore ineffective?

I can't understand that kind of thinking. Voting is precious to me. I'd be lost without my career.
Originally Posted by ninja dog


And there you have the root of the questions...Why are women Republicans? Their causes and interests are in direct opposition of what the Rep party stands for. Reps want a society in which (white) men are heads of everything and women/minorities are...less. Yet...there are powerful women and minorities in the Rep party. I can only think of one word to describe such women/minorities, who participate in the Rep party:

Tokens
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One of my friends who is a Republican is in the Army Reserve, served in Iraq, and is an EMT. She's a single mother, her daughter takes Tae Kwon Do, and between the two of us, we've pushed my little car out of plenty of snow-filled ruts. We fix things together, and sometimes trade tools. And, she's the only person with whom I'll consent to ride a motorcycle, since she's the safest, sanest driver I know (although I've backed off on that some, since even the safest motorcycle rider can't control other drivers). We've taken guff from neighbors for alledgedly "looking like lesbians" when we ride her motorcycle.

This is not a woman who is in any way "less than" a man. In fact, she's more than most men, and no one's "token." She's generous as hell to her friends, and donates aplenty to children's health causes.

I just don't think we can generalize about Republican women. At least, I'm not willing to do so.
One of my friends who is a Republican is in the Army Reserve, served in Iraq, and is an EMT. She's a single mother, her daughter takes Tae Kwon Do, and between the two of us, we've pushed my little car out of plenty of snow-filled ruts. We fix things together, and sometimes trade tools. And, she's the only person with whom I'll consent to ride a motorcycle, since she's the safest, sanest driver I know (although I've backed off on that some, since even the safest motorcycle rider can't control other drivers). We've taken guff from neighbors for alledgedly "looking like lesbians" when we ride her motorcycle.

This is not a woman who is in any way "less than" a man. In fact, she's more than most men, and no one's "token." She's generous as hell to her friends, and donates aplenty to children's health causes.

I just don't think we can generalize about Republican women. At least, I'm not willing to do so.
Originally Posted by ninja dog


Then why don't you ask HER why she's a member of the Republican party? Ask her something simple that might hit close to home, like why she wants to put politicians into power who want to take away Title IX equal sports funding in public schools for her daughter?

I was rather shocked when I heard Michele Bachmann speak out against Title IX...which she probably benefitted from when she applied to law school. Hypocrisy? Token?

TOKEN. Yes, indeed...the word fits nicely.
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I'm skeptical of this, which is why I'd like to hear from a member of the party.

I personally would be miserable under the circumstances you describe.
Originally Posted by ninja dog
I think what you're looking for is this. The person who wrote it has made it available as a free PDF. It's an excellent book profiling the psychology of authoritarians. Since left-wing authoritarianism isn't prominent in the US and Canada, it focuses on right-wing authoritarianism.
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I don't ask because I keep politics out of friendships.

Can we not discuss this among sister Democrats without contention?
I have no idea how many women also actually feel this way, but this was posted on FB this morning:



A quick google search says she said that quote to the Kansas City Star in 2001.
Originally Posted by Nallia
My head just exploded. So, what is she doing being a senator? Shouldn't she be at home slaving away for some man?

People like this need to go away, forever.
Originally Posted by SarcasmIsBeauty
Isn't her statement somewhat hypocritical? I mean, if she thinks that women being able to vote isn't ideal, then why the hell is she is a senator? Doesn't part of her job description entail having to VOTE on bills?

Thinking about this issue further is giving me a headache.
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