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Old 01-22-2007, 09:45 AM   #1
 
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What is the point of sending out spam? Is it just do be annoying or do spammers actually make money? Most of the spam email I get doesn't even make any sense. And the spammers who post on this site, why?
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:47 AM   #2
 
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I think it's mostly to be annoying, though some of them seem to be selling a product.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:00 AM   #3
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There are studies that show that some spam does work - particularly stock based spam and porn spam.

And with these automated services that will blast your message on hundreds of message boards, it's really easy these days.

What irks me the most - besides having to delete umpteen million posts a day - is the ones that say "thanks" or "regards" at the end.
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I was wondering about this too. The spammers that post here have to go to the trouble of registering before they can post, knowing that their post could get deleted befoer anyone reads it. I can't believe you can actually get paid to post a bunch of spam. That sounds like a good job for me. Seriously I wonder how you even get into a job like that. Do companies really put out ads seeking spammers?

Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.
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Some of the links are actually viruses. If someone clicks on it, the spammer may be able to get information from their computer. So in that case, I guess it is worth it to them.
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If you notice, many of the multiple post spammers are able to post the same message on different parts of this board at the same time within seconds of registering. Not humanly possible.


There are anti-spam laws in the US as well as international anti-spam laws. Obviously, there's much more work to be done to actually catch and put an end to spammers.
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Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.
There's something on the hair board called "Wholesale Distributor" by SagePowder that I have no earthly clue if it's supposed to be SPAM or what. What the person posted is just, well, strange. It makes no sense whatsoever.
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Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.
There's something on the hair board called "Wholesale Distributor" by SagePowder that I have no earthly clue if it's supposed to be SPAM or what. What the person posted is just, well, strange. It makes no sense whatsoever.
That looks to me like a newbie who just got a bit messed up making a post.
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Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.
There's something on the hair board called "Wholesale Distributor" by SagePowder that I have no earthly clue if it's supposed to be SPAM or what. What the person posted is just, well, strange. It makes no sense whatsoever.
That looks to me like a newbie who just got a bit messed up making a post.
Well I'm glad someone figured it out & set me straight!
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Check out Dying Beaver on the Recipes forum (you don't have to open the link to read it).
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Check out Dying Beaver on the Recipes forum (you don't have to open the link to read it).
Heh, I chuckled at that one.
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I love that they have now started responding to each others in the recipe section
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I was wondering about this too. The spammers that post here have to go to the trouble of registering before they can post, knowing that their post could get deleted befoer anyone reads it. I can't believe you can actually get paid to post a bunch of spam. That sounds like a good job for me. Seriously I wonder how you even get into a job like that. Do companies really put out ads seeking spammers?

Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.
It's just a computer that's signing up, not an actual person. A spambot. I don't remember if, in order to register, you have to type in a series of distorted numbers and letters. I believe that usually takes care of bots.
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I was wondering about this too. The spammers that post here have to go to the trouble of registering before they can post, knowing that their post could get deleted befoer anyone reads it. I can't believe you can actually get paid to post a bunch of spam. That sounds like a good job for me. Seriously I wonder how you even get into a job like that. Do companies really put out ads seeking spammers?

Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.
It's just a computer that's signing up, not an actual person. A spambot. I don't remember if, in order to register, you have to type in a series of distorted numbers and letters. I believe that usually takes care of bots.
No on this site you don't have to type in the numbers and letters. So how do these spambots know what forums to post on (there seems to be a lot more spam on some forums than others), or is there a way for it to just distribute spam to random forums? I wonder how they come up with these funky names too. I noticed there are a lot of spam names with "And," "ert," and "lee." This is so interesting to me for some reason. I picture a little robot sitting at his computer typing porn posts. Have you noticed that one or two posts will be made under a certain spam name, then it's a new name with a new account posting the same stuff the next day (the angelina boob link is an example)? Why don't they just keep the same account and continue to post under that name? I guess it is harder to track whoever or whatever is posting the spam when they keep coming up with new accounts?
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I was wondering about this too. The spammers that post here have to go to the trouble of registering before they can post, knowing that their post could get deleted befoer anyone reads it. I can't believe you can actually get paid to post a bunch of spam. That sounds like a good job for me. Seriously I wonder how you even get into a job like that. Do companies really put out ads seeking spammers?

Some of these posts are actually kind of funny. You open it expecting it to be a legit post, and it's some kooky advertisement.
It's just a computer that's signing up, not an actual person. A spambot. I don't remember if, in order to register, you have to type in a series of distorted numbers and letters. I believe that usually takes care of bots.
No on this site you don't have to type in the numbers and letters. So how do these spambots know what forums to post on (there seems to be a lot more spam on some forums than others), or is there a way for it to just distribute spam to random forums? I wonder how they come up with these funky names too. I noticed there are a lot of spam names with "And," "ert," and "lee." This is so interesting to me for some reason. I picture a little robot sitting at his computer typing porn posts. Have you noticed that one or two posts will be made under a certain spam name, then it's a new name with a new account posting the same stuff the next day (the angelina boob link is an example)? Why don't they just keep the same account and continue to post under that name? I guess it is harder to track whoever or whatever is posting the spam when they keep coming up with new accounts?
There are programs that automatically collect email addresses, forum addresses, and forms to sign up for email accounts. I don't know anything about computer programming, but the spambots are programmed to fill out this information to send spam. If you ever post your email address on a website, you could benefit from writing it as "blah AT blah REMOVE LETTERS IN CAPS .com"

The bots create different forum accounts for the same link because it's assumed that each account will be banned once it has posted spam. They have different names that are mixed-up versions (not necessarily anagrams) of the same phrase. The main spambot on this site always uses a variation of "hard monster dick." This usually ends up as "terdick" or something.

I just think it's bizarre that so much spam disguised as porn is posted to this site. As a haircare site, it's pretty obvious that most of the posters and lurkers here are women. Are they all trying to catch zzmanzzz and richardhead?
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I just think it's bizarre that so much spam disguised as porn is posted to this site. As a haircare site, it's pretty obvious that most of the posters and lurkers here are women. Are they all trying to catch zzmanzzz and richardhead?
There is a lot for vitamin supplements and tramadol (whatever that is) too. So are none of these people actually selling products? I followed one of the links about b vitamins just because I was curious if it would lead me to a legitimate site. I have anti-virus and anti-spyware protection, so I felt I'd be ok risking it. I assumed that many of them just want you to click to get computer info, but the vitamin b link went to an actual vitamins site. I guess the site is being used as a prop? I should be more careful, being so ignorant about this stuff.
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I just think it's bizarre that so much spam disguised as porn is posted to this site. As a haircare site, it's pretty obvious that most of the posters and lurkers here are women. Are they all trying to catch zzmanzzz and richardhead?
There is a lot for vitamin supplements and tramadol (whatever that is) too. So are none of these people actually selling products? I followed one of the links about b vitamins just because I was curious if it would lead me to a legitimate site. I have anti-virus and anti-spyware protection, so I felt I'd be ok risking it. I assumed that many of them just want you to click to get computer info, but the vitamin b link went to an actual vitamins site. I guess the site is being used as a prop? I should be more careful, being so ignorant about this stuff.
I think these sites are usually either meant to give your computer spyware or viruses, or to let you buy counterfeit prescription drugs. Tramadol, for instance, is an opiate painkiller that people could use to get high.

If you really want to avoid spyware, you should get Firefox and add NoScript, Adblock Plus, and Filterset G. But even then, you'll need anti-virus and anti-spyware programs to pick up whatever slipped through the cracks.
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I just think it's bizarre that so much spam disguised as porn is posted to this site. As a haircare site, it's pretty obvious that most of the posters and lurkers here are women. Are they all trying to catch zzmanzzz and richardhead?
There is a lot for vitamin supplements and tramadol (whatever that is) too. So are none of these people actually selling products? I followed one of the links about b vitamins just because I was curious if it would lead me to a legitimate site. I have anti-virus and anti-spyware protection, so I felt I'd be ok risking it. I assumed that many of them just want you to click to get computer info, but the vitamin b link went to an actual vitamins site. I guess the site is being used as a prop? I should be more careful, being so ignorant about this stuff.
I think these sites are usually either meant to give your computer spyware or viruses, or to let you buy counterfeit prescription drugs. Tramadol, for instance, is an opiate painkiller that people could use to get high.

If you really want to avoid spyware, you should get Firefox and add NoScript, Adblock Plus, and Filterset G. But even then, you'll need anti-virus and anti-spyware programs to pick up whatever slipped through the cracks.
Thanks for the info. I have Virusscan and Spybot. I'm going to be really careful about what I open up from now on just in case.
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Thanks for the info. I have Virusscan and Spybot. I'm going to be really careful about what I open up from now on just in case.
Spybot is a horrible program, just fyi. That company actually MAKES spyware, and they let a ton of it slip through. You should use Ad Aware. It's free software with a great track record. Just google "adaware" and you'll find it.

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