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Not only is it misogynistic, but it's also really dismissive of men. Men are totally capable of washing their own clothes.

The whole Hardy har, men are so incapable they need women to do things for them strain of humor is one of the least funny things I can think of that's still considered funny in pop culture.
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
I get the "joke" in the label, but I think that arrangement has worked out pretty well for men.. they get out of doing laundry in many, many households.. men know they're capable of figuring out how to wash clothing, but do they actually wanna do the laundry? Fold it? Put it away?

I also hate those stupid Dr. Pepper commercials.. I hope women make a stink about them too. I don't drink the stuff, but I imagine lots of Dr. Pepper's customers are women.
Originally Posted by BekkaPoo
I'm aware many people still hold traditional gender roles in their own homes, and when kids are raised up with mom doing all the laundry he's likely to expect his wife to do the same, and may never learn to do it himself. I'm grateful that I was raised with my dad doing the bulk of the laundry in my house, until the kids were tall enough to reach the controls, because I wasn't ever really exposed to that stereotype. In my marriage, we both do our own laundry, though we'll each help the other out when need be. And my husband does any and all ironing that happens in our house, along with a whole host of what many would call women's work.

Basically I understand how people fall into gender roles and find comedy in them, I just disagree, and find it insulting to all parties.

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Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
Seriously. It bugs me that sexist jokes are funny but racist ones are not. Neither should be funny because both sexism and racism exist heavily, sexism more so since it's so much more tolerable (obviously).

I get the "joke" in the label, but I think that arrangement has worked out pretty well for men.. they get out of doing laundry in many, many households.. men know they're capable of figuring out how to wash clothing, but do they actually wanna do the laundry? Fold it? Put it away?

I also hate those stupid Dr. Pepper commercials.. I hope women make a stink about them too. I don't drink the stuff, but I imagine lots of Dr. Pepper's customers are women.
Originally Posted by BekkaPoo
I'm aware many people still hold traditional gender roles in their own homes, and when kids are raised up with mom doing all the laundry he's likely to expect his wife to do the same, and may never learn to do it himself. I'm grateful that I was raised with my dad doing the bulk of the laundry in my house, until the kids were tall enough to reach the controls, because I wasn't ever really exposed to that stereotype. In my marriage, we both do our own laundry, though we'll each help the other out when need be. And my husband does any and all ironing that happens in our house, along with a whole host of what many would call women's work.

Basically I understand how people fall into gender roles and find comedy in them, I just disagree, and find it insulting to all parties.

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Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
Seriously. It bugs me that sexist jokes are funny but racist ones are not. Neither should be funny because both sexism and racism exist heavily, sexism more so since it's so much more tolerable (obviously).
Originally Posted by Josephine
I could understand the humor if sexism and misogyny weren't still a legitimate problem, but people seem to forget that women still hold a disproportionately small number of political offices, earn like 80 cents to the dollar of what men learn, etc, etc. Still a super legit problem.

In this context, not funny. When women aren't still being beaten down by society (and called sluts when they speak publicly about hormonal birth control), THEN maybe it'll be funny, in a "Gosh can you believe people ever thought that way??" kinda way.

Maybe.
"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.


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"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.
Some days I may chuckle, some days I may find it more offensive.

I'm okay with gender roles, but that's how I want it to work in my house. I want to do the cooking and cleaning. I have a caretaker personality, I'm okay with that.

That's not to say that I don't think women can do x and men can do x as well. For instance, I wouldn't think highly of a single man who brought his laundry to his moms house, but I'm okay with a husband having his laundry done by his wife.
I don't want to be responsible for the maintenance on my car, or fixing broken things in the house, and because I have children to take care of, I don't want to be the breadwinner. So if my man will do that part, I will most certainly take on stereotypical 'housewife' duties.

Just don't 'expect' that I'll do it, 'appreciate' that I do.

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This did make me giggle, but I have to say I do HATE misogyny and gender roles and all that garbage. And I hate that sexism is so widely accepted. I hate that there is so much support for the whole anti-birth control/abortion movement, but the consequences will obviously fall on the woman. "It doesn't concern women" my a**. It doesn't concern men, so they should stay out of it. But they don't, because we're their property, right???


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Last edited by seamelody14; 03-08-2012 at 08:32 PM.
This did make me giggle, but I have to say I do HATE misogyny and gender roles and all that garbage. And I hate that sexism is so widely accepted. I hate that there is so much support for the whole anti-birth control/abortion movement, but the consequences will obviously fall on the woman. "It doesn't concern women" my a**. It doesn't concern men, so they should stay out of it. But they don't, because we're their property, right???


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Originally Posted by seamelody14
You recognize the irony in your first sentence, yes?

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Sent from my phone, please excuse typos or brevity.
"And politically correct is the worst term, not just because it’s dismissive, but because it narrows down the whole social justice spectrum to this idea that it’s about being polite instead of about dismantling the oppressive social structure of power.
Fun Fact: When you actively avoid being “PC,” you’re not being forward-thinking or unique. You’re buying into systems of oppression that have existed since before you were even born, and you’re keeping those systems in place."
Stolen.

I'm aware many people still hold traditional gender roles in their own homes, and when kids are raised up with mom doing all the laundry he's likely to expect his wife to do the same, and may never learn to do it himself. I'm grateful that I was raised with my dad doing the bulk of the laundry in my house, until the kids were tall enough to reach the controls, because I wasn't ever really exposed to that stereotype. In my marriage, we both do our own laundry, though we'll each help the other out when need be. And my husband does any and all ironing that happens in our house, along with a whole host of what many would call women's work.

Basically I understand how people fall into gender roles and find comedy in them, I just disagree, and find it insulting to all parties.

--
Sent from my phone, please excuse typos or brevity.
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
Seriously. It bugs me that sexist jokes are funny but racist ones are not. Neither should be funny because both sexism and racism exist heavily, sexism more so since it's so much more tolerable (obviously).
Originally Posted by Josephine
I could understand the humor if sexism and misogyny weren't still a legitimate problem, but people seem to forget that women still hold a disproportionately small number of political offices, earn like 80 cents to the dollar of what men learn, etc, etc. Still a super legit problem.

In this context, not funny. When women aren't still being beaten down by society (and called sluts when they speak publicly about hormonal birth control), THEN maybe it'll be funny, in a "Gosh can you believe people ever thought that way??" kinda way.

Maybe.
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
Yea, honestly I sorta chuckled when I first saw the label because in my relationships and my private world there are no gender roles and in my last relationship it was my ex that was more into the house stuff and he would have found it hilarious because he knows how I am(a complete slob who is okay with mess). But in the real world, this is not the case and a lot of men actually do think this way, ugh.
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I do it all myself, when I know how --- otherwise, I have to pay someone.

I'm a control freak when it comes to my laundry.

I still need a dishwasher.
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The only way I would find that label funny is if someone sewed that in just to see if anyone would notice. The label making people may be bored...
This did make me giggle, but I have to say I do HATE misogyny and gender roles and all that garbage. And I hate that sexism is so widely accepted. I hate that there is so much support for the whole anti-birth control/abortion movement, but the consequences will obviously fall on the woman. "It doesn't concern women" my a**. It doesn't concern men, so they should stay out of it. But they don't, because we're their property, right???


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Originally Posted by seamelody14
You recognize the irony in your first sentence, yes?

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Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
I still can recognize humor...
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Obviously this was a joke, if it were meant to be taken even remotely seriously, it would be sad. But clearly it's not.
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This did make me giggle, but I have to say I do HATE misogyny and gender roles and all that garbage. And I hate that sexism is so widely accepted. I hate that there is so much support for the whole anti-birth control/abortion movement, but the consequences will obviously fall on the woman. "It doesn't concern women" my a**. It doesn't concern men, so they should stay out of it. But they don't, because we're their property, right???


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Originally Posted by seamelody14
You recognize the irony in your first sentence, yes?

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Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
I still can recognize humor...
Originally Posted by seamelody14
Damn those humorless feminists who kill all jokes!
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This did make me giggle, but I have to say I do HATE misogyny and gender roles and all that garbage. And I hate that sexism is so widely accepted. I hate that there is so much support for the whole anti-birth control/abortion movement, but the consequences will obviously fall on the woman. "It doesn't concern women" my a**. It doesn't concern men, so they should stay out of it. But they don't, because we're their property, right???


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Originally Posted by seamelody14
You recognize the irony in your first sentence, yes?

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Sent from my phone, please excuse typos or brevity.
Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
I still can recognize humor...
Originally Posted by seamelody14
I expected this to be a thread that was bumped by a spammer. I'm totally intrigued by the fact that you responded to MichelleBFT seven months later.

Is Michelle even posting anymore?

You recognize the irony in your first sentence, yes?

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Originally Posted by MichelleBFT
I still can recognize humor...
Originally Posted by seamelody14
I expected this to be a thread that was bumped by a spammer. I'm totally intrigued by the fact that you responded to MichelleBFT seven months later.

Is Michelle even posting anymore?
Originally Posted by medussa
I'm posting from my phone, so I went to my profile and it only lists my posts, I didn't even realize it was that old.
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I still can recognize humor...
Originally Posted by seamelody14
I expected this to be a thread that was bumped by a spammer. I'm totally intrigued by the fact that you responded to MichelleBFT seven months later.

Is Michelle even posting anymore?
Originally Posted by medussa
I'm posting from my phone, so I went to my profile and it only lists my posts, I didn't even realize it was that old.
Originally Posted by seamelody14
Gotcha now. I was totally confused because it seemed so random.

I expected this to be a thread that was bumped by a spammer. I'm totally intrigued by the fact that you responded to MichelleBFT seven months later.

Is Michelle even posting anymore?
Originally Posted by medussa
I'm posting from my phone, so I went to my profile and it only lists my posts, I didn't even realize it was that old.
Originally Posted by seamelody14
Gotcha now. I was totally confused because it seemed so random.
Originally Posted by medussa
Lol, no worries, I'm pretty terrible at figuring apps out
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