Hunger Games movie (spoilers)

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Aside from the whitewashing of 12, I agree with his review.


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Overall, I really did like the movie! Many things were extremely well done. I realize that changing the medium through which you tell a story means that things will be lost but I also think that in order to do it well, things must be gained. I think they did it well here.

My only major "negative" (which it seems like you all feel the same way) was amount of character development/ screen time given to Rue. I felt like if you hadn't read the book, Rue's death didn't mean as much as it would have meant. I felt like if they would have added just 30 seconds to show bit of her interview with Caesar or maybe just couple of 2 second shots of her alone in the woods before her and Katniss teamed up (sort of like the short clips they had of Gale here and there), then it would have made her character appealing in her own right and therefore making it more emotional when she died. Idk, I jest felt like my book version of Rue made me care about her while I was watching the movie....not the movie itself.

Small things that I liked:
-----The small clips of Gale watching the games. I thought that this was an excellent touch! For Gale, I felt something for his character in the movie more than I did in the book (exact opposite way for me with Rue). I feel like they did this to set up the love-triangle more which I think is great because I didn't really understand the love triangle angle in the first book.
-----The right before Haymitch really starts acting like a good mentor...one of the waiters (the Avox???) come over to refill his glass and he puts his hands over it. Excellent!
------A short scene showing a family of 4 Capitol citizens. The family is really happy and laughing as they watch their kids "reenact" the Hunger Games. One kid pretends to stab another kids with a sword and the adults think it's the cutest thing. It was a small scene but I really think it showed the contrast between how the district 12 families felt about the games (terrified, tension, impending death etc) and how the capitol citizens thought it was fun and something to entertain them once a year.
-----The scene where Katniss looks at the changing scenery on the wall. I thought this moment was great because it showed that although Katniss seemed cold at times, she really did have a heart and seeing the scenery of the woods brought her to a vulnerable place. I think it was a great way for them ot make up for not having inner dialog. (Other scenes were similarly great for this reason)
-----The smelling thing with Caesar and Peeta. I didn't really "get it" in the books. I think pulled it off way better in the movie.
----I didn't care that Madge and the Avox were left out. I think that I actually liked the exchange of the mockingjay pin between Katniss and Prim a little better.
---District 11 rebellion scene. Great!!
----Katniss telling her mother to be strong for Prim. Great acting and very intense!
-----Katniss' braid. I wonder if people have already started making Youtube tutorials for it! My hair is too short, unfortunately.

I really liked the cast. All of the actors and actresses did an amazing job.

Small things I did not like:
-----Camera shakiness (as others have mentioned, I totally agree!)
-----Peeta giving Katniss the bread flashbacks: I just don't think it was explained well enough. The real meaning of the flashbacks just wasn't there for me.
----- I didn't think the final berries/suicide scene was intense enough. I suppose it didn't have to be...the thought of two tributes dying and no winner was enough to change the Gamemakers minds but still.....Idk, maybe it was because I already knew what was going to happen.

-----Peeta and Katniss' outfits for the parade were better in my mind. But there's only so much fire special effect you can put on an outfit before it becomes unrealistic and corny so I'm satisfied at the most.

Big things:
----President Snow and Seneca. Great job! (I'm glad they used them to explain the political aspects of the novel and I liked that they started explaining Snow now because he's a huge character later
----The Cinna and Katniss relationship! Kravitz didn't look too bad with gold eyeliner!
-----Pretty much everything else. I just wanted to mention those two specifically.


I really love the little things. Did anyone else notice small parts of the movie that they though made a huge difference to them??? I'm going to have to rewatch it because I'm sure there are tons of things that I missed!
More spoilery stuff.

In the books, I often wondered if Haymitch just thought it would be better if his tributes just died right away, and if he just never bothered with sponsors. The fact that he looked as if he was doing something new and inspired when he actively sought out sponsors for the burn medicine made me think about it even more.

I liked the parachute notes. It helped make up for the loss of the internal dialogue that was in the book. The 'you call that a kiss' note got some laughs.

I liked the view of Cinna as strategist as opposed to just stylist.

The Gale/Peeta triangle was set up well without being overdone or taking away from the politics and grittiness of battle.


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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls

The parachute notes! Yeah, that was another small thing that I liked!

As for Haymitch, I kind of sympathized with him. I mean, to mentor tributes year after year and have them die has to take a toll on him. He completely understands the emotional turmoil that they are going through because he's been there. Then to watch them be killed every year.... I think that would make anyone feel like a "failure". I think he tried to drink away the pain and remove himself from the situation with an "I don't care attitude". Then once that he saw that Katniss actually had a chance, he was on board. Yes, Katniss was the "girl on fire" but she caused other people to ignite (in passion and will to fight against the Capitol) as well ( From herself, to Peeta, to District 11, Haymitch, Katniss' mother, and many others). I think Haymitch sort of represented the extreme loss of hope that all the citizen were dealing with to a lesser or similar degree due to the extreme oppression and compliance created by the Capitol. I agree with you that he was inspired. I think the actions of Katniss (volunteering as tribute, her skill in hunting, Rue's flowers, etc) inspired a ton of the characters.
As someone who saw the movie without reading the books, Rue's death didn't mean anything to me. I was surprised when I looked around the packed theater and saw so many people crying. I thought ok, I clearly need to read the book...

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As someone who saw the movie without reading the books, Rue's death didn't mean anything to me. I was surprised when I looked around the packed theater and saw so many people crying. I thought ok, I clearly need to read the book...

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Originally Posted by Kilajo
I did read the book but I completely see where you are coming from!
Aside from the whitewashing of 12, I agree with his review.


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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
What about the whitewashing part don't you agree? I haven't read the book and as I was watching district 12 scenes I was surprised to only see one POC. Were there POCs described in the book and not depicted or were there no POCs described in the book in district 12? I'm gonna get the book but that was something that struck me as odd and made wonder what was going on...

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I saw it and thought it was great. Not a perfect movie by any means, but a solid B+/A-.

I thought the first half of the movie was terrific. I liked the scenes in District 12, and thought they did a decent job of capturing the bleakness/toughness of life in that district, although I agree that it was pretty white-washed. The novel spends a lot of time describing the distinct "Seam" look - olive skin, black hair, grey eyes.

The reaping scene was chilling and well done. I also liked the scenes in the Capitol, the training scenes... pretty much everything up through the initial carnage at the Cornucopia.

For some reason, the second half of the movie didn't work quite as well for me. The actual games felt very rushed. There was nothing about Katniss' struggle to survive against the elements, e.g., the dehydration, near starvation and desperation she felt in those initial couple of days. The tracker jacker scene was well done, but a lot of the other obstacles weren't nearly as disturbing as in the novel - e.g., the muttations (in the movie, they glossed over the most disturbing part - that they appeared to have the eyes of the dead tributes).

I thought all the actors did a good job. I still wish they would have picked someone darker/younger/more gaunt-looking to play Katniss, but that aside, Jennifer Lawrence was great. She played Katniss a bit differently than I imagined her in the book - maybe a little more confident and less withdrawn - but that's fine. I thought Josh Hutcherson did a great job of capturing Peeta, although I do think the movie downplayed how crafty he was. THe actor who played Gale didn't leave much of an impression, but I find his character a bit bland in the books as well.

I couldn't help but notice the omission of a lot of scenes from the novel: the fact that Peeta's dad came to say good-bye to Katniss before she went to the games, the bread Katniss received from District 11 after Rue dies, the Avox, and a few other things. And there were some scenes that really weren't explained as well as they could have been. As others have mentioned, the bread flashback wasn't handled well. I wish they had used a younger actress to play Katniss in that scene, because part of what's so heartbreaking is the image of this 10 year-old girl, forced to take care of her family after her dad dies, sitting out in the rain because she's on the brink of starvation and too tired to even move. I think if they had shown Peeta's mom yelling at Katniss for digging through the bakery's dumpster for scraps, Peeta's act of kindness would have resonated more. Peeta's comments in the movie about how he should have given her the bread, rather than just throwing it, probably make it even more confusing for someone who hasn't read the book.

Other scenes that weren't explained well: the fact that Cato et al tried to kill Peeta for letting Katniss go; the extent to which Katniss and Peeta were playing to the cameras for sponsors (i.e., the whole star-crossed lovers thing); the fact that the berries were just a ruse, and Katniss/Peeta never intended to actually pull a Romeo and Juliet (I don't know - maybe that was clear to viewers who never read the book). I did like the added scene of Seneca Crane being locked in a room with a bowl of poisonous berries. Oh, and as noted above, the Katniss-Rue relationship could have been developed more. In the book, a big part of why Katniss latches on to Rue is because she reminds her of Prim. Not sure that came through. I did think the actress who played Rue was perfect.

I would have welcomed a slightly darker version of the movie, but all in all, pretty well done. I'm supposed to see it again in a week.
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Aside from the whitewashing of 12, I agree with his review.


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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
What about the whitewashing part don't you agree? I haven't read the book and as I was watching district 12 scenes I was surprised to only see one POC. Were there POCs described in the book and not depicted or were there no POCs described in the book in district 12. I'm gonna get the book but that was something that struck me as odd and made wonder what was going on...

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Originally Posted by Kilajo
I don't recall obvious (because Collins isn't always obvious about a character's race) POC in 12. In certain parts of Appalachia, that's not a shocker. I grew up in a county that was considered 'diverse' yet it was 90% white. I've been to more rural, mountainous, coal containing areas of my home state where literally everyone was white.

So, a white 12 isn't shocking, and I'm not that with the complaints that it should've had more POC.

However, I would've been more mad if 11 had no POC. It was pretty obvious that Rue and Thresh are black. It also seems to be located in what is currently the deep south of the US. Even with wars and loss of land due to rising seas and everything else, I expect some racial diversity there.


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Aside from the whitewashing of 12, I agree with his review.


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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
What about the whitewashing part don't you agree? I haven't read the book and as I was watching district 12 scenes I was surprised to only see one POC. Were there POCs described in the book and not depicted or were there no POCs described in the book in district 12. I'm gonna get the book but that was something that struck me as odd and made wonder what was going on...

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Originally Posted by Kilajo
I don't recall obvious (because Collins isn't always obvious about a character's race) POC in 12. In certain parts of Appalachia, that's not a shocker. I grew up in a county that was considered 'diverse' yet it was 90% white. I've been to more rural, mountainous, coal containing areas of my home state where literally everyone was white.

So, a white 12 isn't shocking, and I'm not that with the complaints that it should've had more POC.

However, I would've been more mad if 11 had no POC. It was pretty obvious that Rue and Thresh are black. It also seems to be located in what is currently the deep south of the US. Even with wars and loss of land due to rising seas and everything else, I expect some racial diversity there.


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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Yeah, that was really how I looked at it, as well. I was really surprised when I heard people talking about whitewashing...

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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
What about the whitewashing part don't you agree? I haven't read the book and as I was watching district 12 scenes I was surprised to only see one POC. Were there POCs described in the book and not depicted or were there no POCs described in the book in district 12. I'm gonna get the book but that was something that struck me as odd and made wonder what was going on...

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Originally Posted by Kilajo
I don't recall obvious (because Collins isn't always obvious about a character's race) POC in 12. In certain parts of Appalachia, that's not a shocker. I grew up in a county that was considered 'diverse' yet it was 90% white. I've been to more rural, mountainous, coal containing areas of my home state where literally everyone was white.

So, a white 12 isn't shocking, and I'm not that with the complaints that it should've had more POC.

However, I would've been more mad if 11 had no POC. It was pretty obvious that Rue and Thresh are black. It also seems to be located in what is currently the deep south of the US. Even with wars and loss of land due to rising seas and everything else, I expect some racial diversity there.


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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Thanks RCC. I guess I didn't realize where the districts were supposed to be. So yea if 12 is appalacia then that makes perfect sense.

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I don't recall obvious (because Collins isn't always obvious about a character's race) POC in 12. In certain parts of Appalachia, that's not a shocker. I grew up in a county that was considered 'diverse' yet it was 90% white. I've been to more rural, mountainous, coal containing areas of my home state where literally everyone was white.

So, a white 12 isn't shocking, and I'm not that with the complaints that it should've had more POC.

However, I would've been more mad if 11 had no POC. It was pretty obvious that Rue and Thresh are black. It also seems to be located in what is currently the deep south of the US. Even with wars and loss of land due to rising seas and everything else, I expect some racial diversity there.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
I haven't seen the movie yet but to the bolded, definitely. In District 12 she really only describes Katniss, Prim, their mom, and Gale but then goes on to say miner families resemble Gale & Katniss while merchant families resemble her mother & Prim. "Straight black hair, olive skin" and "light hair and blue eyes" doesn't say a whole lot if you ask me.
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I haven't watched the movie yet, but I first became familiar with the books through the online outrage over the casting for the movies. The major issue was that Katniss (and Gale), as described by Collins, was ethnically ambiguous. The casting call for Katniss specified white actresses only, which was such a douchebag move.
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She was! Everyone did so well.

Her whole Manners! Ha!

I had to download the song Abraham's Daughter that was in the credits. It really caught my ear.


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The whole soundtrack has been available on iTunes for a few days. It's excellent - I'm a HUGE fan of "traditional" American music (not country, not folk, but things Abraham's Daughter - very rootsy, with simple instrumentation. I also love the soundtrack of "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" for the same reason).

We're seeing the movie tomorrow morning - can't wait!
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Aside from the whitewashing of 12, I agree with his review.


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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
What about the whitewashing part don't you agree? I haven't read the book and as I was watching district 12 scenes I was surprised to only see one POC. Were there POCs described in the book and not depicted or were there no POCs described in the book in district 12. I'm gonna get the book but that was something that struck me as odd and made wonder what was going on...

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Originally Posted by Kilajo
I don't recall obvious (because Collins isn't always obvious about a character's race) POC in 12. In certain parts of Appalachia, that's not a shocker. I grew up in a county that was considered 'diverse' yet it was 90% white. I've been to more rural, mountainous, coal containing areas of my home state where literally everyone was white.

So, a white 12 isn't shocking, and I'm not that with the complaints that it should've had more POC.

However, I would've been more mad if 11 had no POC. It was pretty obvious that Rue and Thresh are black. It also seems to be located in what is currently the deep south of the US. Even with wars and loss of land due to rising seas and everything else, I expect some racial diversity there.


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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
I agree. I think I always though of district 12 as all or mostly white. I think Katniss even mentions something in the book about everyone look the same except for mother and Prim who had light hair and light eyes since her mom was from a different class.

During the reaping, the camera cuts to a black woman and I remember thinking she looked out of place...she was just standing alone with no other people of color around her or anyone else in the crowd that it seemed like she would be related to. PLus, it seemed like people didn't really go from district to district that often, so it I'd think that they racial make-up of the population wouldn't have any major changes over the years.
I really liked it! I don't care too much about differences in the books vs. the movie - I was actually surprised at how true-to-book it was.

I don't really have intelligent commentary to add, but damn the boy who played Cato was fine. Peeta was alright at certain angles, Gale was smoldering, but Cato was distractingly hot.
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That is one good looking family. The brother of the actor who played Gale played Thor (and George Kirk in the Star Trek reboot). He's hot too.

But Gale is dating Miley Cyrus. Can't say much for his taste in women.


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What about the whitewashing part don't you agree? I haven't read the book and as I was watching district 12 scenes I was surprised to only see one POC. Were there POCs described in the book and not depicted or were there no POCs described in the book in district 12. I'm gonna get the book but that was something that struck me as odd and made wonder what was going on...

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Originally Posted by Kilajo
I don't recall obvious (because Collins isn't always obvious about a character's race) POC in 12. In certain parts of Appalachia, that's not a shocker. I grew up in a county that was considered 'diverse' yet it was 90% white. I've been to more rural, mountainous, coal containing areas of my home state where literally everyone was white.

So, a white 12 isn't shocking, and I'm not that with the complaints that it should've had more POC.

However, I would've been more mad if 11 had no POC. It was pretty obvious that Rue and Thresh are black. It also seems to be located in what is currently the deep south of the US. Even with wars and loss of land due to rising seas and everything else, I expect some racial diversity there.


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Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
I agree. I think I always though of district 12 as all or mostly white. I think Katniss even mentions something in the book about everyone look the same except for mother and Prim who had light hair and light eyes since her mom was from a different class.

During the reaping, the camera cuts to a black woman and I remember thinking she looked out of place...she was just standing alone with no other people of color around her or anyone else in the crowd that it seemed like she would be related to. PLus, it seemed like people didn't really go from district to district that often, so it I'd think that they racial make-up of the population wouldn't have any major changes over the years.
Originally Posted by greenjumper
From what I recall in the books, there was essentially no communication with or travel to other Districts. No one had phones except the victors and the mayor from what we saw. TV was government controlled, and I only saw the mayor in 12 having TV access to other districts.

Even the schools taught little. Most of the school lessons mentioned in 12 were coal related.

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I saw the movie this afternoon. We got there late so had to sit up front which did not help with the jerky camera work but still loved it! I even took my BF who has not read the books and he loved it too. I think he's gonna read them before the next movie. For a while we had dueling trailer viewings as he's anxiously and impatiently awaiting The Avengers.

I loved the costuming in District 12. It was almost like they were not presenting it as a distant future but as an alternate one. Maybe it's because I'm currently in the early 50's Cold War era with my kids in history, but it really struck me like a 'maybe this is what would have happened if nuclear war had broken out' thing. It was a whole new way to look on things. My mom's BF came with us and was saying after the movie that he remembered a lot of simliar type stories circulating when he was a kid in the 50's. I thought it was a cool nod to that.

I did explain a few things to fill in holes to my BF on the way home. I missed the bread things, and the better explanations of the different districts and how they are so specialized. I loved the riots in District 11 but unless you could read real fast or noticed a lot you may not pick up on them being the breadbasket of Panem.

Katniss' salute....ummm did anyone else feel like they were at a girl scout meeting? I was about ready to recite "On my honor, I will try...."

I didn't like Gale. I think to me he was tall and slender in the book. It's been a while so I may have got it wrong but in my head he was the slenderish, lithe hunter where Peeta was stockier and more obviously muscular.

Flickerman was PERFECT! I adore Stanley Tucci. Lenny did really well and I'm glad because I was very hesitant when he was cast. I'm not a fan in general. I also loved all the behind the scenes action with Seneca and his staff. It gave it an excellent contrast to what was going on in the arena, though there I could have stood with less blurry action and more actual action. The blurs just didn't bring the reality of it home, even with the 12 booming cannons.

Haymitch, cast awesomely but I don't think they went far enough in his drunkeness/ignoring Katniss and Peeta. He did so for a while before he really got behind them. I got more frenetic energy from him in the book.

Overall I can't wait to see it again, that's usually when I can let go of the differences from the text and really get immersed in the movie.

Oh! I checked this out a week or so ago. Some people got together and did a crazy detailed and thought out map of Panem. I loved the explanations of how they arranged everything. They are uber fans. You can check it out and see what district you'd fall into. Me, I'm not in a district. I'm in the wilderness above District 13.
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