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RCW, unless you have WileE's specific permission to use her quote in your sig line, I have to ask you to remove it.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
Huh? People quote other posters all the time without their permission. One of mine has been used for years by a poster here and I never gave permission.

eta: now I think of it I think it is a quote about me, not by me - whatever, I'm not concerned about what it says, but the point is that RCW is not the first instance of this and I don't recall it EVER being an issue.
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Last edited by Amneris; 04-12-2012 at 10:11 AM.
I am surprised that anyone here fails to understand that it is acceptable to express an opinion, including an unpopular one. But for another member to post that comment reapeatedly for the purpose of provoking ongoing ridicule and hostility from members who disagree is not acceptable. It's nothing but pot-stirring.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
So is everyone here being asked to edit their sigs to take out unauthorized quotes from, to, or about other members, or just this poster and this quote?
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Most quotes in sig lines are not controversial. Most are used because someone finds them funny or educational. This is not one of those cases.
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Most quotes in sig lines are not controversial. Most are used because someone finds them funny or educational. This is not one of those cases.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
SuZen, I beg to differ - I have seen more than one that is controversial. The one I've seen involving me is certainly controversial and came from a very heated and personal thread. So again, is there actually a board rule that you can't do that?

eta: I don't know if she has it any more because she has an anti-Rick Santorum sig line now, but, just as an example that comes to mind, Eilonwy for a long time had some comment another poster made on the subject of religion that was bigoted, and therefore controversial. (And I'm not saying I have a problem with that - I'm concerned about consistency.)
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Tensions are running very high right now ---- I know I'm pretty upset --- and adding fuel to the fire by quoting what was obviously an ill-considered remark isn't going to help.

I have not spoken with Wile about this; it's simply my opinion.

I don't often agree with SuZen, but I do in this case.
I think it's getting to that point where they've covered it enough. People get shot everyday, maybe because of racial reasons, maybe not, and they sure as hell don't make the news.

I was listening to CNN earlier and they were talking about how after the shooting Zimmerman had multiple injuries and grass stains on his pants, suggesting that it was self-defense. I haven't followed the case extensively and as obsessively has most, so the jury's out for me.
Originally Posted by SaraNoH
Yeah, but generally when people are caught shooting other people with strong evidence against them, the police don't help them walk, for racial reasons.

You could get grass stains and "multiple injuries" from throwing yourself on the ground in regret/panic after shooting someone, or by doing them to yourself to create a defence.
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Most quotes in sig lines are not controversial. Most are used because someone finds them funny or educational. This is not one of those cases.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
SuZen, I beg to differ - I have seen more than one that is controversial. The one I've seen involving me is certainly controversial and came from a very heated and personal thread. So again, is there actually a board rule that you can't do that?

eta: I don't know if she has it any more because she has an anti-Rick Santorum sig line now, but, just as an example that comes to mind, Eilonwy for a long time had some comment another poster made on the subject of religion that was bigoted, and therefore controversial. (And I'm not saying I have a problem with that - I'm concerned about consistency.)
Originally Posted by Amneris
I see your point, but I don't think all of us on the site were as "het up" about Santorum as we are about this.
Tensions are running very high right now ---- I know I'm pretty upset --- and adding fuel to the fire by quoting what was obviously an ill-considered remark isn't going to help.

I have not spoken with Wile about this; it's simply my opinion.

I don't often agree with SuZen, but I do in this case.
Originally Posted by ninja dog
I would perhaps agree with you if I'd seen any remorse or apology for making the remark. Instead I saw it made again in another thread.
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If it's a rule, it should be listed in the board rules and enforced consistently.

Right now that it not the case.
Most quotes in sig lines are not controversial. Most are used because someone finds them funny or educational. This is not one of those cases.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
SuZen, I beg to differ - I have seen more than one that is controversial. The one I've seen involving me is certainly controversial and came from a very heated and personal thread. So again, is there actually a board rule that you can't do that?

eta: I don't know if she has it any more because she has an anti-Rick Santorum sig line now, but, just as an example that comes to mind, Eilonwy for a long time had some comment another poster made on the subject of religion that was bigoted, and therefore controversial. (And I'm not saying I have a problem with that - I'm concerned about consistency.)
Originally Posted by Amneris
I see your point, but I don't think all of us on the site were as "het up" about Santorum as we are about this.
Originally Posted by ninja dog
The quote wasn't about Santorum - she has Santorum now. I think the quote was about people who don't accept Christ, or something. People have certainly been EXTREMELY het up in the religion debates here, and I recall that that one was.

Are people particularly het up now? Isn't this just a typical "race" conversation on NC? I have seen far, far worse on here, unfortunately.
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Tensions are running very high right now ---- I know I'm pretty upset --- and adding fuel to the fire by quoting what was obviously an ill-considered remark isn't going to help.

I have not spoken with Wile about this; it's simply my opinion.

I don't often agree with SuZen, but I do in this case.
Originally Posted by ninja dog
I would perhaps agree with you if I'd seen any remorse or apology for making the remark. Instead I saw it made again in another thread.
Originally Posted by Amneris
Oh dear. By Wile?

(shakes head)
Most quotes in sig lines are not controversial. Most are used because someone finds them funny or educational. This is not one of those cases.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
Seriously? Plenty of the quotes are controversial based on religious or political differences. Why is WileE getting special treatment?


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SuZen, I beg to differ - I have seen more than one that is controversial. The one I've seen involving me is certainly controversial and came from a very heated and personal thread. So again, is there actually a board rule that you can't do that?

eta: I don't know if she has it any more because she has an anti-Rick Santorum sig line now, but, just as an example that comes to mind, Eilonwy for a long time had some comment another poster made on the subject of religion that was bigoted, and therefore controversial. (And I'm not saying I have a problem with that - I'm concerned about consistency.)
Originally Posted by Amneris
I see your point, but I don't think all of us on the site were as "het up" about Santorum as we are about this.
Originally Posted by ninja dog
The quote wasn't about Santorum - she has Santorum now. I think the quote was about people who don't accept Christ, or something. People have certainly been EXTREMELY het up in the religion debates here, and I recall that that one was.

Are people particularly het up now? Isn't this just a typical "race" conversation on NC? I have seen far, far worse on here, unfortunately.
Originally Posted by Amneris


Sigh.

I'm sorry if that's the case. It seems the most heated to me, and certainly the most upsetting.
RCW, unless you have WileE's specific permission to use her quote in your sig line, I have to ask you to remove it.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
That's a rule here?
Originally Posted by legends
That's just plain courtesy and respect. Using a sig line to shame another member is pretty poor behavior.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide

Ok, so I just read the board rules again. Why isn't Wile's comment racially objectionable? It's a stereotype about young BLACK males... I'm just curious...

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Apparently, it is once again worse to accuse someone else of being racist or to call out racism than to BE racist and make racist comments. Why is that?
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If it's a rule, it should be listed in the board rules and enforced consistently.

Right now that it not the case.
Originally Posted by wild~hair
This is me actually agreeing with wild~hair.
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The comment was just wrong. I think most, of us know that. I don't see the purpose of putting it on a billboard (so to speak) to further shame the person who made the comment.

Not to mention, to continually remind and anger everyone else every time they have to see it.

Regardless if someone makes a bad comment, it still doesn't make it okay to bully them.

'well SHE did it first' doesn't seem like enough of an argument.'

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