Trayvon Martin coverage: Republicans, many whites say 'enough'

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How is this shaming her, though? She has shown no remorse about her comment, which indicates a lack of shame on her part, so why should she suddenly be ashamed of it now just because it's part of someone's signature?
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"Bad" comment?!

Ok.

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I am surprised that anyone here fails to understand that it is acceptable to express an opinion, including an unpopular one. But for another member to post that comment reapeatedly for the purpose of provoking ongoing ridicule and hostility from members who disagree is not acceptable. It's nothing but pot-stirring.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
That's one thing but the quote is separate. Other people have similar quotes in their sig.

Also I am surprised that this issue needs 'policing'. Sometimes I do feel like this is a forum for children.
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The comment was just wrong. I think most, of us know that. I don't see the purpose of putting it on a billboard (so to speak) to further shame the person who made the comment.

Not to mention, to continually remind and anger everyone else every time they have to see it.

Regardless if someone makes a bad comment, it still doesn't make it okay to bully them.

'well SHE did it first' doesn't seem like enough of an argument.'

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Originally Posted by iroc
Iroc, it's not about "bullying." Bullying is picking on someone who is vulnerable. The comment made served to make others FEEL vulnerable. How angering and upsetting do you think it is for Black women, many of whom were birthed by, or have birthed and are parenting, or are married to, or have siblings who are, Black men, who fear for their safety on a daily basis, never mind fearing for our OWN safety, and who have to put that aside every day and live our lives so we don't look too radical, or paranoid, or insecure, to see comments like that? How angering and upsetting would it be for non-Black people who truly hope and work for progress to see comments like that that can only serve to undermine what they stand for?

Why is it that you can put yourself in the shoes of the offender, but not their victims?

You said in another thread you rely on this board to let you know where Black women are coming from. If you think seeing those words in a sig continually upset and anger, then imagine what our real life is like and knowing that those words are only what someone had the guts to say to your face, so what people may be thinking or planning to do is so much worse.
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Some behavior requires shaming.
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The comment was just wrong. I think most, of us know that. I don't see the purpose of putting it on a billboard (so to speak) to further shame the person who made the comment.
Originally Posted by iroc
Why not?!

Either recant or embrace the ignorance and be put on blast.


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I am surprised that anyone here fails to understand that it is acceptable to express an opinion, including an unpopular one. But for another member to post that comment reapeatedly for the purpose of provoking ongoing ridicule and hostility from members who disagree is not acceptable. It's nothing but pot-stirring.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
That's one thing but the quote is separate. Other people have similar quotes in their sig.

Also I am surprised that this issue needs 'policing'. Sometimes I do feel like this is a forum for children.
Originally Posted by Josephine
And how is it an "opinion?"
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I am surprised that anyone here fails to understand that it is acceptable to express an opinion, including an unpopular one. But for another member to post that comment reapeatedly for the purpose of provoking ongoing ridicule and hostility from members who disagree is not acceptable. It's nothing but pot-stirring.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
That's one thing but the quote is separate. Other people have similar quotes in their sig.

Also I am surprised that this issue needs 'policing'. Sometimes I do feel like this is a forum for children.
Originally Posted by Josephine
And how is it an "opinion?"
Originally Posted by Amneris
Sure it is. A racist one...that's clearly protected.

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RCW, unless you have WileE's specific permission to use her quote in your sig line, I have to ask you to remove it.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide
That's a rule here?
Originally Posted by legends
That's just plain courtesy and respect. Using a sig line to shame another member is pretty poor behavior.
Originally Posted by SuZenGuide

I'm using her own words to shame her. She should be ashamed. But, unfortunately...she's not...
Maybe this is what SuZen is thinking of:

"1. BE COURTEOUS. BE TOLERANT. You're about to encounter many new friends in our community, with many new and interesting viewpoints. Please be respectful and tolerant of everyone you meet, even if you disagree with their opinions. Don't use language that is threatening, abusive, harassing, hateful or racially or ethnically objectionable. And don't engage in personal attacks. This includes NaturallyCurly.com staff, who work hard to keep our Community a fun spot to visit."
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"Bad" comment?!

Ok.

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Originally Posted by Kilajo
Youre to put me on trial because you don't like my adjective?

Come on, relax, I'm not defending her comment at all. In fact the VERY next comment after that one she made is ME saying 'sigh' - because at that point I couldn't think of another thing to do other than shake my head.

Get off my back for every little thing. (general)

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With the "Messacan/Messican" kerfluffle last year, she barely got her hand slapped by the mods. I believe their response was something like "Wile is aware some people find her position offensive, but it is up to her what she wants to do with the criticism."

In my opinion, if the mods continue to allow Wile to make racially insensitive/offensive remarks, seemingly without consequence, then this is what happens. Good people are left to fend for themselves, basically.
Back to the original topic, how many of the republicans were saying enough was enough when OJ and Nicole were in the news. That went on for MONTHS and I don't recall any republicans complaining about the coverage. Or any number of white female kidnapping or murder victims. Those were/are newsworthy but I guess this black kid is not. Isn't his life/death as important as any white victim? Guess not in America!

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Maybe this is what SuZen is thinking of:

"1. BE COURTEOUS. BE TOLERANT. You're about to encounter many new friends in our community, with many new and interesting viewpoints. Please be respectful and tolerant of everyone you meet, even if you disagree with their opinions. Don't use language that is threatening, abusive, harassing, hateful or racially or ethnically objectionable. And don't engage in personal attacks. This includes NaturallyCurly.com staff, who work hard to keep our Community a fun spot to visit."
Originally Posted by SaraNoH
A person's own words can't be a personal attack.
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Maybe this is what SuZen is thinking of:

"1. BE COURTEOUS. BE TOLERANT. You're about to encounter many new friends in our community, with many new and interesting viewpoints. Please be respectful and tolerant of everyone you meet, even if you disagree with their opinions. Don't use language that is threatening, abusive, harassing, hateful or racially or ethnically objectionable. And don't engage in personal attacks. This includes NaturallyCurly.com staff, who work hard to keep our Community a fun spot to visit."
Originally Posted by SaraNoH
Yep, Wile's comment was racially objectionable.

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That's one thing but the quote is separate. Other people have similar quotes in their sig.

Also I am surprised that this issue needs 'policing'. Sometimes I do feel like this is a forum for children.
Originally Posted by Josephine
And how is it an "opinion?"
Originally Posted by Amneris
Sure it is. A racist one...that's clearly protected.

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Originally Posted by Kilajo
I forgot that the US protects hate speech. We don't. Racists comments are not entitled to protection as "opinions" in my book - calling something an "opinion" legitimizes it.
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Maybe this is what SuZen is thinking of:

"1. BE COURTEOUS. BE TOLERANT. You're about to encounter many new friends in our community, with many new and interesting viewpoints. Please be respectful and tolerant of everyone you meet, even if you disagree with their opinions. Don't use language that is threatening, abusive, harassing, hateful or racially or ethnically objectionable. And don't engage in personal attacks. This includes NaturallyCurly.com staff, who work hard to keep our Community a fun spot to visit."
Originally Posted by SaraNoH

I think once someone post the italicized, the bold is null and void.


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The comment was just wrong. I think most, of us know that. I don't see the purpose of putting it on a billboard (so to speak) to further shame the person who made the comment.
Originally Posted by iroc
Why not?!

Either recant or embrace the ignorance and be put on blast.
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I got nothing. I don't know.


A part of me still holds onto the idea that people are really good, and mean well most of the time, even though I know thats not true.


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How can it be a personal attack when it is simply posting what someone said? This is interesting, if someone has the gusto to make a statement like that, IMO, another person has the right to ensure others remember it.

RCW - maybe if you take out the "Hall of Shame" part it's not inflammatory. I mean, she said what she said. That way you're not forming an opinion or "attack" on her words? Maybe?
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Maybe this is what SuZen is thinking of:

"1. BE COURTEOUS. BE TOLERANT. You're about to encounter many new friends in our community, with many new and interesting viewpoints. Please be respectful and tolerant of everyone you meet, even if you disagree with their opinions. Don't use language that is threatening, abusive, harassing, hateful or racially or ethnically objectionable. And don't engage in personal attacks. This includes NaturallyCurly.com staff, who work hard to keep our Community a fun spot to visit."
Originally Posted by SaraNoH
Bolding changed to indicate why it's hypocritical that the original comment was fine but the signature is not.
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