Article - body size in the seventies....

There's a show on MTV right now called 'Fat Camp". I'm simply amazed at what I'm seeing.

I have a car, but guess what... I walk to safeway, trader joe's and walgreens and the GYM. I don't drive unless I have to.

When I was a kid, there was no such thing as 'fat camp" or dieting for kids for crissakes. The odd fat kid we knew had thyroid issues. We played ALL sports - so-called PE was sports after classes everyday excluding sundays, and walked everywhere. You don't like cross country running? Volleyball was not your thing? Tough... you sucked it up.

Argh!
Originally Posted by Cherish
Ditto on the walking - gas sure ain't cheap, so why doesn't everyone walk more often? I sure don't drive unless I have to.
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I'm not sure if it's the same for other areas of the country, but most of the areas where I live are not "walker-friendly". AT ALL. It really sucks. The town where I live is an exception; you can actually walk around, and further up they have a separate bike lane on the highway that goes for quite a ways.

You got developers knocking down trees left and right to build the same ol' store chains and condos, but nobody ever thinks to make anything "pedestrian-friendly". And believe me, you will get damn near run over out here if you try to walk somewhere. It's 3-lane highways everywhere.

Things have changed even back home where I grew up. We grew up basically in the sticks, and we'd take long, long walks up the roads. Now the traffic has increased, and with it insane drivers. Nowhere near enough as in a larger town/city, but enough to make it hazardous to take walks anymore.

You know, I was watching old Soul Train clips from the 70's, and I marveled at how slim all the kids were. Especially compared with the same age group today.

P.S. Speaking of portion sizes--the "kid's meal" at Arby's is an absolute travesty.
I'm not sure if it's the same for other areas of the country, but most of the areas where I live are not "walker-friendly". AT ALL. It really sucks. The town where I live is an exception; you can actually walk around, and further up they have a separate bike lane on the highway that goes for quite a ways.

You got developers knocking down trees left and right to build the same ol' store chains and condos, but nobody ever thinks to make anything "pedestrian-friendly". And believe me, you will get damn near run over out here if you try to walk somewhere. It's 3-lane highways everywhere.
Originally Posted by sinistral55
This describes where I used to live. My current area has a lot of pedestrian-only areas and one-way streets.
It's true that most urban development (which is strongly connected to shopping centers) discourages walking. They want you in your car, loading up big bags of stuff. Also, most multi-story building have scary, hidden stairwells...they practically force you to take the elevator.

So during my workout I was thinking. Has anyone ever looked at smoking statistics wrt this obesity crisis? Are fewer people smoking now than several decades ago?
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Has anyone ever looked at smoking statistics wrt this obesity crisis? Are fewer people smoking now than several decades ago?
Originally Posted by Castella
I'm not sure what "wrt" means, but are you suggesting that smoking used to satisfy an oral fixation that is now fulfilled with food? Not to mention that smoking suppresses appetite somewhat.
By concidence, I'm watching "Supersize Me" right now and they are talking about the food and pop in school.
Yep, the schools won't get rid of the pop machines because of the $$$$$.
Out of 36 items on the school menu, only 4 were homemade. The rest were all processed foods!
There is a school in Illinois that has the best phys ed programs in the country. That same school has more overweight kids than elsewhere in the country. Why? Because of the crap served in the cafeteria.
It's a scary thing to me, that we are teaching our kids all the 'wrong' things to do.
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By concidence, I'm watching "Supersize Me" right now and they are talking about the food and pop in school.
Yep, the schools won't get rid of the pop machines because of the $$$$$.
Out of 36 items on the school menu, only 4 were homemade. The rest were all processed foods!
There is a school in Illinois that has the best phys ed programs in the country. That same school has more overweight kids than elsewhere in the country. Why? Because of the crap served in the cafeteria.
It's a scary thing to me, that we are teaching our kids all the 'wrong' things to do.
Originally Posted by jeepcurlygurl
Well, here in CA the soda is gone...but fruit drinks with no nutrition or real juice and just as much (or more) sugar are, so it's a good idea but implemented poorly. I'm lucky I don't like buying all of that, I have friends who have terrible soda habits.
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It would really crack me up...all the money & effort to keep people from smoking, and instead we all get fat!

My mom mostly made me a packed lunch in the 70s. The school lunches were pretty bad. I'm remembering tater tots, sloppy joes, canned vegetables. They were supposed to provide children with one balanced meal so they always had a meat, a starch, and a vegetable. Don't they get pizza nowadays? I got pretty excited when I learned that there is a program in town to provide a public school lunch made from local produce (vegetables, dairy)...it sounded like just a great idea, then I found out that it is ONE lunch a year!

I want to say that the mindset about eating has changed...we used to look forward to a special meal or treat, once in a while. Now it's more, you can have as much as you want, whenever you want. The credit card mentality...eat it all now, worry about the bill later. And that's another thing we didn't have so much of in the 70s--credit cards! Oh, but we DID have our diet pills, our cigarettes & our disco !
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I've spent quite a bit of time working with a couple school boards and their financial managers regarding how school districts spend their money, and from what I've gathered, schools (in this area, anyway) can't afford a huge budget for food services.

I was told that organic food, fresh vegetables and fruit, etc. cost way more than prepackaged food, and school employees would have to be paid overtime for the extra time it would take to prepare the food. Thus, if a school district offers both breakfast and lunch to all its students, the state underfunds the program and many students don't pay full price, the district just doesn't have the extra money to fork over. If it did, other areas either underfunded or not funded at all by the state would suffer - such as athletics, the arts, field trips, or technology.

These school districts do a little better with the food they serve since the state raised their standards. They offer salad bars, etc., and athletics are popular. I haven't really noticed many overweight children.

What gets me is when parents demand healthier cafeteria food for their children, then vote against school maintenance and operation levies that would provide more funding. The money for the school programs you want isn't going to materialize out of thin air, so sometimes it's necessary to pay more taxes. Sheesh, people.

/end almost unrelated rant

Anyway. My mom grew up in the 60s and 70s, and when I lived with her people were always accusing her of eating like a bird, etc. She just eats appropriate portion sizes, and it's like second nature to her. She never really taught us portion control, but she also wouldn't give us fast food and sugary treats very often, either.

One thing I've learned is to not eat until you're full... just eat until you're not hungry anymore. And take your time, don't scarf it all down in minutes. My SO's family eats large portions in VERY short periods of time, and I would make myself sick if I ate like that. I'm the eat-one-fry-at-a-time type, and my SO accuses me of being a slow eater. He isn't overweight, though. I envy his metabolism. :x
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