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Old 01-26-2007, 10:34 AM   #1
 
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Default Article - body size in the seventies....

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That's really interesting and that's what I am concerned about, too. I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks.
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I've been saying this for years. I remember the 70's very well and people were not as fat then as they are now. Overweight/Obese children were rare. That's what bothers me the most, that there are so many pudgy children.

I have never believed that most humans metabolism slowed down in one generation.
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We don't really do processed food - occasionally of course, but we don't even drink soda. Tim has battled his weight his entire life, and there is diabetes on both sides, so we try and keep things as healthy as possible.

I also think that all of the growth hormones and chemicals that they put into foods now are taking their toll.
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This is exactly why I don't think skinny models are the huge problem some people want to make them out to be.

People are out of shape due to poor diets and poor exercise habits, period. It's serious when they are saying children will die before their parents because of this. I had no idea it was THAT bad!
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"I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."

We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.

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I also think that all of the growth hormones and chemicals that they put into foods now are taking their toll.
I agree that's part of the problem too. Things were a lot "fresher" back then and not overly processed with chemicals and hormones and antibiotics, etc.
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"I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."

We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, both skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.
We only have soda for birthdays.
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"I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."

We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, both skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.
Yep. Thankfully, I don't like soda because we weren't allowed to have it when we were kids except for the occasional Solo or Ting for a party (which taste very different from coke and pepsi beverages) so I rarely even drink diet soda. I tried diet 7-up and ginger ale for my pregnancy sickness and hated it. And diet soda has other health risks, doesn't it?

Even juice has a lot of calories and sugars - when I first realized that - so I only drink enough of it to get the vitamins etc. It's all about water for me - you can do so much with water (and I'm including tea and some of the sweeteners like CristalLite though those have chemicals so good not to overdo them either) and soy or rice milk. I hope to have a soda free house with the kids too.

I think Starbucks type coffees are a huge part of the drinking calories problem.
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This is exactly why I don't think skinny models are the huge problem some people want to make them out to be.

People are out of shape due to poor diets and poor exercise habits, period. It's serious when they are saying children will die before their parents because of this. I had no idea it was THAT bad!
I think both are big problems. Saying that skinny models aren't a huge problem because most Americans are fat is like say narcolepsy isn't a problem because most Americans don't get enough sleep!

"I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."

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We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, both skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.
There's a huge push in public health right now about "sugar-sweetened beverages". It's not just soda, it's also things like fruit punch, and all types of fruit drinks kids drink, and gatorade and things like that, too. Even 100% fruit juice should be kept to a minimum, and the benefits would be better if you actually ate the fruit! So many parents don't realize how bad for you all those juice drinks are.
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I read somewhere that people who drink diet sodas are heavier than people who drink regular sodas. Something about it stimulates your appetite for sugar but doesn't satisfy it. I have to say that I see that in my life. My husband and I won't touch diet, but we do occaisionally drink regular sodas. We are slimmer than most people we know who drink the diet. But we do work out every week also. Fruit juices are LOADED with calories.
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I think Starbucks type coffees are a huge part of the drinking calories problem.
I agree 100%. And of course, there's the problem of unhealthy foods being cheaper than healthier foods. If you only have $2, are you going to spend it on peaches or a big fast food hamburger?

And since people seem to be concerned about this, drinking juice on a regular basis was an early childhood thing, along with drinking whole milk to satisfy developmental needs.
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I think it's a combination of many things, with sodas and even most juices (especially ones that aren't really juice!) being a definite part of it.

Some other biggies, IMHO:

1) Processed food
2) Growth hormones added to meats and other foods
3) Fast food
4) People being busier, working longer houses, both parents working and everyone is sometimes too exhausted to take the time to cook a healthy meal (very related to the fast food and processed food, of course)
5) Lack of exercise
6) More TV time/computer time - also related to #5

I think all of those play a part. I don't think human beings' metabolism changed since the 70's but the food that the average American eats DID, and our bodies are not meant to handle the crap we feed them. I reall and truly do believe that some people are less able to handle these foods than others, as we all know the overweight person who doesn't eat too badly, and we all know the skinny person who does. And the problem, I think, is made even worse by the fact that many people simply cannot afford to eat organic, free-range, etc. Even if they know they should, some people truly can barely afford "normal" and cheap food.
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"I think it's interesting how many of the calories consumed today come from drinks."

We had an unofficial "water, milk, and 100% juice--but no soda" rule in our house (with exceptions for parties), and I'm very glad we did. I think a lot of people, both skinny and overweight, have the unhealthy mindset that soda is the standard beverage.
We only have soda for birthdays.
When I was growing up it was soda on Fri and Sat night only. Maybe that's why I never really liked it that much and didn't drink it until college (in small quantities still).
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American adults and children are fat and by that I don't mean a little overweight, I mean fat, b/c we eat too much and exercise too little. By exercise, I mean things as simple as getting off the couch and walking anywhere or around the block. I also think that the culture of fear many parents live in has resulted in extremely fat, sedentary children. I'm 41. I remember being able to roam all over the neighborhood(s) with a group of my friends and just being allowed, heck, encouraged to go outside and just ride bikes.

If I see one more morbidly obese toddler or young ( 6, 7 yo) child, I'll slap the person who bought the kid the 32 oz Big Gulp. I once heard a GM engineer talking about car design. He said one of the number one complaints they hear is that the cup holders are too small. I guess they are two small if you want to drive around with a cup containing a gallon of Coca Cola.
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I think the biggest problem is that people just aren't aware or educated completely on the matter. It's not bad to have a starbucks type drink (I love my caramel lite fraps), but I also make sure that I know what's in it and what the calories are, and I make up for it in other areas.

I drink diet soda, not nearly as often anymore, and I'm smaller than people I know who drink regular. A lot of people I know drink diet to avoid the calories, but they still don't pay attention to anything else they eat, so while they're avoiding 150 calories in the soda, they don't follow suit with other food.

I eat much better now that I'm aware of WHAT I'm eating, even though there may be times where I have ice cream everyday--but you've just go to make sure you compensate for that. Not all food is created equal, and especially now, it's seems to be made for quantity, not quality. How much can you produce versus how well you can produce it. It's all about making the money when it comes to many companies, but that's still no excuse for not paying attention to what you put in your body.
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The things that bother me the most are the sugared cereals, processed foods, and of course the growth hormones. Not only are kids fatter, but they're going through puberty earlier too, which is scary.

The "easy" things they come out with just seem so gross to me. Things like Uncrustables, and Lunchables that came out with make your own pizza, or tacos, or PB and J - b/c it's so hard to make a sandwhich? Then they came out with breakfast ones, so you don't even have to get up to give your kids breakfast in the morning.
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I was around in the seventies and I walked everywhere. I lived in a small town so it was easy to do. There were very few fast food places and we ate there occasionally, not every night, like people do today. My Mother actually used Lard to fry food and we were a thin family. The meats didn't have all the hormones like they do today. Soda was drank seldom. We had ice tea. Have you noticed all the people with stomach problems? Either they are constipated or have IBS.

It makes me feel sad when I see children who already have a weight problem.
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First of all g-stringranny, you can have IBS and be constipated. Some people with IBS have diarrhea and some have constipation, while others go back and forth. But anyway, I just had to mention that.

I think the lack of home cooked meals is one of the biggest problems. And pop and juice drinking! My brothers only drink juice or Coke/Pepsi...never any water! Gross!
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First of all g-stringranny, you can have IBS and be constipated. Some people with IBS have diarrhea and some have constipation, while others go back and forth. But anyway, I just had to mention that.

I think the lack of home cooked meals is one of the biggest problems. And pop and juice drinking! My brothers only drink juice or Coke/Pepsi...never any water! Gross!
Yea, I am familar with IBS. I actually thought I had it. It ended up being an allergic reaction to alcohol. That glass or 2 of wine in the evening was creating havoc in my system. Diarrhea for the next 3 days. Forgot about the constipation since I didn't have that problem. I agree with you on the home cooked meals. I also blame what is being put into our foods. Unless we are raising our own cattle, chickens, and fish and growing our veggies, we are going to have problems. This country doesn't care about our health. People just want to make money.
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