Do you believe in the Illuminati?

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I believe in the Ministry of Magic.
Originally Posted by annabananalise
What is that?
No MAS.

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I don't believe that the Illuminati are/were devil worshippers. And if they are so what?

Also I don't think the Illuminati (as they were originally in Galileo's time) are active anymore.

I know a Freemason. It's just a club for businessmen to dress up in silly hats, sashes and drink.
Originally Posted by curlylaura
Seriously?
No MAS.

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I believe in the Ministry of Magic.
Originally Posted by annabananalise
What is that?
Originally Posted by The New Black
Erm, the Harry Potter universe governing body in the UK.


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Oh, lol...That's how much of an HP fan I am...
No MAS.

I am the new Black.

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I do believe they exist definitely!! Do they rule the world?? Maybe or maybe not who know. People who do belong to secret occult or group tend to make things work in their favor even when the whole world is in chaos!!! They bring themselves fame and fortune while watching others wallowing in the misery!!! But I do believe whether real or fake or non existence they will end one day and reap whatever they soul. Even if you serve the devil PR.demon itself you still reap the reward of your service and he fives it to its servant plentiful lol

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Originally Posted by darkbeautytt
I can't bold stuff on my phone, but yea they reap what they sew. I feel like all the things out there aren't just coinicidence.

And I mean, sure all illuminati aren't devil worshipers. But the ones who are (illuminati or not) are *Probably* going where the devil resides! #shrug. I don't mean that to offend anybody, that's just what I believe.

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Is anyone related to a Mason? Or married to a Mason?

I'm so curious about them. My son's former after-school care provider was married to a Mason. His lodge threw the kids an end of year party.

What do Masons do?
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I don't believe that the Illuminati are/were devil worshippers. And if they are so what?

Also I don't think the Illuminati (as they were originally in Galileo's time) are active anymore.

I know a Freemason. It's just a club for businessmen to dress up in silly hats, sashes and drink.
Originally Posted by curlylaura
Seriously?
Originally Posted by The New Black
Yes, seriously.

But then I don't believe in God/Devil/Fairies/Angels or the Easter Bunny
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I don't believe that the Illuminati are/were devil worshippers. And if they are so what?

Also I don't think the Illuminati (as they were originally in Galileo's time) are active anymore.

I know a Freemason. It's just a club for businessmen to dress up in silly hats, sashes and drink.
Originally Posted by curlylaura
Seriously?
Originally Posted by The New Black
Yes, seriously.

But then I don't believe in God/Devil/Fairies/Angels or the Easter Bunny
Originally Posted by curlylaura
Lol. Do u believe in evolution?

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Seriously?
Originally Posted by The New Black
Yes, seriously.

But then I don't believe in God/Devil/Fairies/Angels or the Easter Bunny
Originally Posted by curlylaura
Lol. Do u believe in evolution?

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Originally Posted by B-Nessa11
Yeah, of course I do.
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Is anyone related to a Mason? Or married to a Mason?

I'm so curious about them. My son's former after-school care provider was married to a Mason. His lodge threw the kids an end of year party.

What do Masons do?
Originally Posted by Po
Like Freemasons? I have an uncle (cousin?) who is. He got my sister into the Mason-built girls-only private dorm at UT.

I'm not sure what they do, though.
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Is there some stuff going on that I don't know about? Yes

Is it as "big" as they make it in the movies? Prob not

Is there information being passed from generation to generation that is protected? I think yes

Do I desire to know what's going on with the 33 degree Mason? I have to admit I'm a little curious

Are there hidden codes on books? I'm still looking for them. and by looking, I mean one day I will get around to reading the book.

Do they have anything to do with devil worship? no

Have I learned that Masons can have a full conversation in front of you and you not know what they actually meant? Yes
Originally Posted by scrills
This.
I don't believe that the Illuminati are/were devil worshippers. And if they are so what?

Also I don't think the Illuminati (as they were originally in Galileo's time) are active anymore.

I know a Freemason. It's just a club for businessmen to dress up in silly hats, sashes and drink.
Originally Posted by curlylaura
Seriously?
Originally Posted by The New Black
Yes, seriously.

But then I don't believe in God/Devil/Fairies/Angels or the Easter Bunny
Originally Posted by curlylaura
Niether does true devil worshipers. They just call use the term "devil worshipers" because its the complete opposite if christian. they believe that you should do what makes you happy ie: drugs, sex orgies, ect. and there will be no consequences like going to hell. in fact the founder, anton lavey (think thats the name), didnt consider it a religion more of a philosophy. he also used "satan" as a symbol of mans true nature, that everyone was out for themselves, and such. He was atheist, and so are Satanist that follow his teachings.

There are/ were luciferisms who worshiped lucifer, but did not view him as a christian would(the bad guy).

Now there are this new fad of "devil worshipers" such as the Nazi satanist (I think the name says it all), i only know one thaing about them and thats all i need to discredit them being the new world order.

there are some crazy's out there who kill or hurt in the name of satan (just as many do in the name of their chosen deity), but that is not how satanism originated.

Disclaimer: i am not a satanist, I just know people.
Is anyone related to a Mason? Or married to a Mason?

I'm so curious about them. My son's former after-school care provider was married to a Mason. His lodge threw the kids an end of year party.

What do Masons do?
Originally Posted by Po
My husband is a Freemason but doesn't participate in it anymore. I know they are required to believe in a higher power and they pay dues. As far as what they do, I don't really know. I think DH did it just to be a part of a secret squirrel club. Others who take it more seriously I believe try to give back and participate with their community.

I vaguely remember him telling me about the ceremony when he entered and that they had weird traditions. It sounded kind of ridiculous. I know they have a "secret handshake" and saying to identify themselves.

I always think of The Simpson's "Stonecutters" and The Flintstones Water Buffalos when I think of Freemasons. Perhaps I should broaden my education of it beyond pop culture.
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My mom dated a freemason when we were like 10. He was just a regular dude.

And as far as I know there is no organized Satanist religion. It's only a bunch of small, dispersed groups that make up their own rules and beliefs.

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Originally Posted by thelio
This made me laugh.
Is anyone related to a Mason? Or married to a Mason?

I'm so curious about them. My son's former after-school care provider was married to a Mason. His lodge threw the kids an end of year party.

What do Masons do?
Originally Posted by Po
My Grandpa was a freemason. He was a 32nd degree freemason from the Scottish Rite. There are all different sorts of divisions of Masons. Like the Scottish Rite that has the 33 degrees (the 33rd tends to be a very rare honor bestowed upon few). The Shriners, York Rite, etc. I can't remember them and I didn't want to do a whole bunch of research.

It is true that they do have secret handshakes and different degrees do have different "initiation" ceremonies. That's about all I know. It is kept very secret.

When my Grandpa died, they had a Masonic funeral and that was FREAKY! I don't remember all of it because I was just too freaked out to remember much, but it was really scary to me. I think now it would be super interesting and I would really like to observe all the nuances.

I know they do a lot of fundraisers and my Grandpa's old lodge does a huge pancake breakfast that my uncle still goes to every year...even though he's not a Mason.
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My father's a Master Mason, though he hasn't been active in many years - I don't know what degree, and don't ask me to explain what any of that means as I don't have a clue.

They have nothing to do with satanism, or he'd have had nothing to do with it. It's also not Christian-based either, as some people think - I do know they have to initially swear to belief in a "Supreme Being", though it's not specific as to what that is to mean.

Where I'm from, all the men who are/were involved in the Mason's are protestant Christians, but people of a lot of religions are involved, although I think masonry has historically been frowned on by the Catholic church, maybe less so by now.

I've known some masons who were also Shriners, but most weren't - they're a side group within the Masons geared toward entertainment and community service, thus the Shriner's hospitals, participation in parades, etc., I guess.

Freemasonry originally worked as a sort of networking tool, in reality if not in original intent, often serving as a sort of letter of introduction when a man was in unknown territory. The secret handshakes and probably other esoteric info could sometimes vouch for his character with strangers.
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"Satanists" call themselves that pretty much just to be provocative.

People who accuse others of worshiping the devil have caused waaaay more trouble than anyone claiming to do it themselves.
But then I don't believe in God/Devil/Fairies/Angels or the Easter Bunny
Originally Posted by curlylaura
Lol. Do u believe in evolution?
Originally Posted by B-Nessa11
What does that have to do with what curlylaura said?

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