Another child killed for being black.

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What a heartbreaking story. Dammit.
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Did the old man have an unobstructed view of his victim before he shot him?

Again, this is another example of how systemic and institutionalized racism can be. Even if that man didn't kill that child in cold blood like Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin, the possibility that he reflexively associates Black teenage boys with thieves and criminals is troubling enough.

There is no way to ever prove that this crime was racially-motivated. But circumstantial evidence can be presented to strongly affirm or strongly deny that it was.
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I've lived in Milwaukee. My family is from Milwaukee. Milwaukee is the most racist city I have lived in and I have lived all over the South including a small town in South Carolina.

Just wanted to put that out there.
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I think if the child was white, he would not have shot him. I think there is a lesser value on blacks, therefore he was quicker on the draw.
Originally Posted by Trenell
I think you are using your own life experience to imagine what happened for the murderer. I'm sad things have been this way for you that you have to assume the murder was also an assault on your race.[/B] It's making an already tragic incident even more tragic, for reasons that are not proven.

You don't know, nor will you ever know, if he had it out for black kids only. I can imagine that a man dying of cancer is going to be very angry with anyone who he thinks may have broken into his home. If his neighbor was a white kid, I think he would have shot him too-- but that is my imagination telling me this, as I have seen many instances of white people killing white children for all kinds of reasons. I've also seen people who are very sick do things very outside of their nature. My guess is just as valid as yours.. it is only an opinion based on my own personal experience in life, just like yours is.

How can anyone know the truth if they are not the person in question? Maybe we will find out that the old man had a journal full of entries of how much he hates blacks, or how much he just wants to murder a 13 year old boy. Then we might know the truth. But to decide what happened without any kind of evidence is not logical.

I do notice there are a lot of posts indicating the natural assumption that it had to be race related. How very sad for all of you that you live in a place where it probably is so common that you would have to assume this. It's not like this where I'm from, so using evidence and facts are how we do things here. I just want to state, however, that I feel the insistence that it is a race inspired murder without any kind of evidence, does feel like racism against whites to me.

My sincere heartfelt condolences to the family of that murdered boy. It is so very tragic when sick people think it's okay to be judge jury and executioner. So tragic for everyone.
Originally Posted by SusieSuze

I don't mean this to be disrespectful but I have a difficult time accepting that Trenell's position is what it is..is because she's projecting.

I mean (and with all due respect to you Trenell)..but she's married to a white guy for pete's sake. If she was all that uptight about white folks and she had it so bad with them..it would be real nuts for her to be married to one and have a child with him.

I mean you do see that huge picture of her, her white husband, and her mixed race child in her siggy..right ?

Okay..can I just say reading that back sounds CRAZY..but yall get my point.

I think this is a little deeper than she has some bad experiences with white folks....
Originally Posted by *Marah*
I'm so glad you quoted this.

For goodness sake. How hard is it to understand that to REALIZE there is feelings of racial superiority is NOT the same as buying into said feelings.

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I just can't get over the fact that a grown man pointed a gun at a little boy and fired.
Did the old man have an unobstructed view of his victim before he shot him?

Again, this is another example of how systemic and institutionalized racism can be. Even if that man didn't kill that child in cold blood like Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin, the possibility that he reflexively associates Black teenage boys with thieves and criminals is troubling enough.

There is no way to ever prove that this crime was racially-motivated. But circumstantial evidence can be presented to strongly affirm or strongly deny that it was.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
Regardless of whether he shot the kid because he's black, he absolutely shot him in cold blood. Twice. A 13 year old child. It's sickening.
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@ slinky1 of course crime goes both ways. People hurt white people but there is a group of white people hunting black people its called the kkk. But violence against anyone is wrong. Human souls dont come in colors and people that kill them are wrong. The problem is violence, not seperating the people like organizing the colors in a bag of skittles

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The guy was also 75, hes older and may have not even saw if he was black. But he shouldnt have a gun

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There is no way to ever prove that this crime was racially-motivated. But circumstantial evidence can be presented to strongly affirm or strongly deny that it was.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
Regardless of whether he shot the kid because he's black, he absolutely shot him in cold blood. Twice. A 13 year old child. It's sickening.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
I could not agree more.

I fully understand any and every feeling about the motivation behind this. It's disgusting, and does make you think. I despise that peoples minds even have to go there. It just shouldn't be, period.

I wanted to add something but only based on my experience, in my profession. I have no idea if it's even remotely the case and no matter what, it wouldn't excuse.

Anytime I start taking several B&E 911's from the elderly, saying they have been robbed, and it doesn't pan out... IME, it's been the start of dementia. They often hide things from themselves, don't remember they no longer own these possessions, and assume its been stolen. This seems to be getting worse due to more graphic and disturbing stories on the news. The elderly are becoming hyper paranoid. Most of the time these people have little to no family that check on them, so no one besides LEO knows their mind is slipping. They also might be in perfect forms at other times, so it's harder to determine.

Again, I have no idea, and this is incredibly disturbing regardless. I did just want to put that out there because 15 B&E calls to 911, in 5 years, struck me.
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Last edited by Guide24; 06-06-2012 at 05:28 AM. Reason: Edited to fix quotes.
Let me say I'm sorry for the length of ^ and a second post. I did want to add that if this *remotely* factors in, I find it a fail on 'the systems' part. I can only speak for my area (though I assume it's a larger and common practice) that not much is done in those types of situations. A note is made that the person is 10-73 (mentally unstable) and unless it gets throughly out of hand, nothing else is done. I wish this was handled differently. Again, if that factors in along with a deeper motivation or alone, the senseless murder of a child might have been avoided if a better system were in place.
When I hear terms like "hipster" I think, who told cliques they could leave high school??

Regardless of whether he shot the kid because he's black, he absolutely shot him in cold blood. Twice. A 13 year old child. It's sickening.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Exactly! I'm not going to assume that the kid was shot because he was black. No one knows the true heart of the shooter.
However, it is disgusting that an elderly man shot an innocent kid- regardless of anyone's color.

Last edited by Guide24; 06-06-2012 at 05:25 AM. Reason: Edited to fix quotes.
There is no way to ever prove that this crime was racially-motivated. But circumstantial evidence can be presented to strongly affirm or strongly deny that it was.
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000
Regardless of whether he shot the kid because he's black, he absolutely shot him in cold blood. Twice. A 13 year old child. It's sickening.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
I could not agree more.

I fully understand any and every feeling about the motivation behind this. It's disgusting, and does make you think. I despise that peoples minds even have to go there. It just shouldn't be, period.

I wanted to add something but only based on my experience, in my profession. I have no idea if it's even remotely the case and no matter what, it wouldn't excuse.

Anytime I start taking several B&E 911's from the elderly, saying they have been robbed, and it doesn't pan out... IME, it's been the start of dementia. They often hide things from themselves, don't remember they no longer own these possessions, and assume its been stolen. This seems to be getting worse due to more graphic and disturbing stories on the news. The elderly are becoming hyper paranoid. Most of the time these people have little to no family that check on them, so no one besides LEO knows their mind is slipping. They also might be in perfect forms at other times, so it's harder to determine.

Again, I have no idea, and this is incredibly disturbing regardless. I did just want to put that out there because 15 B&E calls to 911, in 5 years, struck me.
Originally Posted by Fifi.G
Dementia is what I was also thinking, but anyone who knows how some dementia work knows the last things to go are pretty much swear words, slurs, and racism generally. Reminds me of a woman I cared for who was sweetness personified. In the past she expressed hate for Christians and Blacks but Alzheimer's took that away at the end her life,it was pretty bizarre. 99 years old and she couldn't remember that she used to be racist!

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Regardless of whether he shot the kid because he's black, he absolutely shot him in cold blood. Twice. A 13 year old child. It's sickening.
Originally Posted by mrspoppers
Exactly! I'm not going to assume that the kid was shot because he was black. No one knows the true heart of the shooter.
However, it is disgusting that an elderly man shot an innocent kid- regardless of anyone's color.
Originally Posted by crimsonshedemon
Maybe but I don't need someone to write "I hate black people" in blood over the body to know either. Like the guy dragged to death in Texas, doesn't take a rocket scientist or a God to tell you what was on their hearts!
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What is LEO in dispatcher language?

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What is LEO in dispatcher language?
Originally Posted by claudine19
Law enforcement officers.

This does just turn my stomach. And I fully agree about what dementia does to people, in some cases. I've seen it. Personal me is disgusted. Completely. Dispatcher Fifi (while still disgusted) saw several people scratching their heads over the 911 calls, which is scratch worthy, and wanted to offer a possible perspective on that alone.
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Oh!

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10 Facts You Need to Know About the Darius Simmons Case:

1. Spooner was known by his neighbors, police, and local officials as a gun collector. In the past reported burglary, Spooner alleged that four shotguns were taken.
2. The police had already done an investigation several days prior of burglaries at Spooner’s residence, including an interview with Simmons’ family, concluding that no one in from his household was involved. Patricia Larry, Simmons’ mother, had only lived in the home for a month.

3. Spooner saw Alderman Bob Donovan, a casual acquaintance, at a restaurant earlier that morning, venting his anger at the police response to his home being burglarized, stating “there are other ways to deal with situations” that police couldn’t solve.
4. Simmons and his mother were taking out the garbage when, Spooner confronted and threatened Simmons. His mother attempted to verbally defend her son against the accusations when Spooner drew his 9mm.
5. Spooner shot Simmons with a 9mm handgun five feet away from him in the chest, in front of his mother.
6. Simmons was shot once in the chest with his hands raised. He ran to escape and collapsed at the corner, while Spooner attempted to shoot him in the back, and tried to fire a third shot.
7. After police arrived, Darius’s body remained on the sidewalk, while police questioned his mother, Patricia Larry, in a squad car for approximately two hours.
8. During the police investigation of the shooting, they searched Ms. Larry’s home again. Finding nothing, they then proceeded to arrest his older brother for having truancy tickets.
9. In contrast, Spooner’s family was allowed to go into the home and remove “items” despite it being the crime scene.
10. John Spooner was given a $300,000 bail, (only $30,000 would have to be posted for him to be free). This is uncommon when the charge is murder in the first degree.
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OMG, he actually confronted the kid with his mother standing there and shot him at close range?!

For some reason, I thought the old man caught a glimpse of someone rummaging throught the garbage and shot at him from a distance.

OMG...another Trayvon Martin.

And wth is w/ the "cancer defense?" Yeah, that really absolves him of responsibility...
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^ Sickening. Absolutely sickening, but thank you for posting.
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