spiderlashes5000

oooooh now I understand what you were saying/asking.

Issue 1 - No, I don't think assaulting anyone is morally right.

Issue 2 - Yes, ideally the consequences of committing a crime should be left to the judicial system.

However...

Issue 1 - In the heat of the moment, while you are seeing red, as you watch your own child tortured, it is understandable that a person would commit assault. And under these circumstances, it should not be prosecutable.

If the same assult was committed in cold blood, after a parent had time to calm down and regain emotional control, then it's an entirely different situation and not nearly as understandable or excusable.

Issue 2 - Regardless of the situation, the context, the degree of urgency or the consequences, some people will not put their faith in the US justice system...for good reason: it's failed them and other people like them repeatedly.

Despite its flaws, Americans should be encouraged to use this system...but the thought of doing so is not a comforting (or instinctive) one.

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I'm OK with him being killed. Sorry, I just am. I feel bad that the father has to deal with any guilt over it though.

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Eilonwy

I agree with everything you wrote in this post

Eilonwy

Got it

That happened to me, too. I think NC uses vBulletin for its boards, and in other forums that use vB only the most recent post is quoted. Maybe NC accidentally selected that option during an update or something.

iroc

That is not vigilantism, that is self defense.

That is a baby who cannot defend herself. It is a parents responsibility to act on a child's behalf when they are too young to themselves.

If you are being raped, should you be charged if you fought back and ultimately killed your attacker. No you should not. There is no difference here. That girl could not have defended herself.

I read this story weeks ago when it happened. They didn't give as many gory details. They implied she was being molested, not raped.

I'm so glad at the outcome. I have a 5 year old girl, and I am not ashamed to say that I would light that effer on fire and let him burn if I came upon that.

And I hope that man doesn't have any guilt over it, because he shouldnt.


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Again, I say, that man was not taking justice in his hands, he was defending his daughter.

I hope he'd do it all over again.

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Bottom line is we would all do this or something very similar is if it was our kid (unless your crap for a parent). The justice system is flawed and if you don't believe so you live under a rock and are one of those people that don't believe things until they happen to you.

I don't think anyone is saying to go out and kill people, that is wrong and I hope no one would do that. But if someone was out there hurting our kids we would and should stand up for them because they are children and have a hard time standing up for themselves.

This just goes to show we all need to be more aware, this world gets scarier and scarier by the day. Be PARENTS not best friends or "cool parents" and if you are than make sure you keep it leveled.

spiderlashes5000

But you know next time he might not be so lucky...

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claudine19

This thread worked its way into my dreams last night.

I was banging on a closed door and shouting and trying to break in to stop something happening.

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Usoda

Someone assaulted a child. An adult moved to prevent further assault. The assailant died from those defensible actions.

There's nothing to debate. Literally, the matter is closed. Law enforcement and community citizens have nothing further to say on the matter, because there is nothing to say on the matter.

Devushka

I so hope the father and his daughter find real peace after all of this. I don't at all find blame in what the father did with beating that guy to death -- It sound like it was simply a visceral reaction to seeing what was happening to his little girl. (I surely can't guarantee that I would have acted more "rationally" if I were in his shoes. Even though I'm not an advocate of the death penalty, I really can see myself going the #@&% OFF on that guy, too, in the same situation.)

It's just so sad that whatever the aftermath of the attack could have been, it would have been something terrible that they'd have to deal with for a long time -- the trauma of being raped; the guilt or sense of loss of self the father seems to be feeling (based on the 911 calls) because he beat a man to death; the anger and frustration the girl and father would have felt if the guy lived and only got a certain number of years in jail *IF* convicted.

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Um, okay...I think you weren't getting what I was saying.

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lani13

I do't think the father didn't anything wrong. He was a father who protected his child. Hell, he could have done worse. As harsh as judicial system isn't on sick monstrous people that commit the irreparable crimes, I don't think he did enough. That child and her father will have to live with that for the rest of their lives. I'm proud of him for not dismissing what was going on.

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iroc

Very well said.

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thelio

Which Is why I said "decent human being" IMO. Walking away from a child being rape, you are just as bad. You deserve the same fate as the rapist.

Springcurl

I knew what you meant. I was kind of making a joke on what a slime Mike McQeary is.

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Fifi.G

Even though this was heat of the moment as opposed to pre meditated, Sam's infamous quote sums up my feelings about this. Then again, I would feel the same even if death was the fathers intent.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings if all who are proven to molest/harm children were disposed of on site/sight.

* and pardon the rage but when you spend your days taking calls about the sick ***** lurking around parks and schools, and then take calls from the known molester trying to defend his actions... you start wishing someone would just shoot. Seriously.

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