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Old 06-22-2012, 09:04 PM   #21
 
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Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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Old 06-22-2012, 11:07 PM   #22
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Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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I saw an interview with her and she said she just took it because there was nothing she could do without losing her job.


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I think the bus monitors are for developmentally disabled children that have been integrated into "regular" school.
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This thread is the first I'm hearing of this and I just can't bring myself to watch the video. After hearing how bad it was I don't think I can stomach it. Though I do want to donate a lot of money to her vacation. I am disgusted with how some kids are raised these days.


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It's awful, but I'm not that surprised. Most kids are great, but there are some who just have absolutely no respect for anyone. Especially someone like the bus monitor on the last day of school, who has no real power to bring any consequences. I keep hearing people say things like "she should have told them to stop, made them sit apart, taken away their camera, kicked them off the bus." But the truth is, if a student refuses when you ask them to do something there's not anything else you can do, you're not allowed to touch them at all and they know it. Working with students the last few years the phrase I've heard over and over directed at any number of adults was "MAKE ME." Ugh.

I think it's great that she has the money to retire now, if she wants.

I think schools need more effective ways to discipline kids.

Parents need to get it together with disciplining their kids too.
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It's awful, but I'm not that surprised. Most kids are great, but there are some who just have absolutely no respect for anyone. Especially someone like the bus monitor on the last day of school, who has no real power to bring any consequences. I keep hearing people say things like "she should have told them to stop, made them sit apart, taken away their camera, kicked them off the bus." But the truth is, if a student refuses when you ask them to do something there's not anything else you can do, you're not allowed to touch them at all and they know it. Working with students the last few years the phrase I've heard over and over directed at any number of adults was "MAKE ME." Ugh.

I think it's great that she has the money to retire now, if she wants.

I think schools need more effective ways to discipline kids.

Parents need to get it together with disciplining their kids too.
Yeah, that really is part of the problem. There's not much she could have done that wouldn't have created a bigger problem for her in the long run. I can certainly understand when she says she took it because she needed the job. If she had talked to those kids the way a lot of people think those kids should have been talked to, you just know they would have gone to administrators about it. And actually touching a kid isn't an option.

In an interview I saw of one of the dads, he said how horrified he was to see his child behaving that way. He didn't weasel out, trying to mitigate his son's behavior with lame excuses either.
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Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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I'm confused. Are you saying the adults in those situations responded to disrespectful teenagers appropriately and due to the culture of disrespect in America and extreme political correctness, they were unfairly reprimanded/punished?

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The fake wall is called a partition wall apparently.

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I'm confused. Are you saying the adults in those situations responded to disrespectful teenagers appropriately and due to the culture of disrespect in America and extreme political correctness, they were unfairly reprimanded/punished?

Blame it on the cell phone...
Of course, I don't think the adults responded appropriately, but IMO in those situations, the response was deserved albeit extreme. I'm jalso saying that kids have been bad as hell for eons. Nothing has changed save the invention of the internet. More people get caught doing bad things because we are under surveillance everywhere we go.

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Interesting. Thanks for clarification.

I would love to have an in depth interview with the parents. I have questions.
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Lol How times have changed due to political correctness (criss cross applesauce) and overprotective parents raising their bratty, entitled kids.

We had a bus driver in middle school tell us to "sit down and shut the hell up," after we got rowdy. Someone told their mommy and we got a new driver.

In HS, my history teacher pushed a kid through the fake wall because he said "Thats not what your wife said last night." He got severely reprimanded (not fired), but he voluntarily moved to another school in the district.

I could go on and on with stories, but honestly disrespecting authority is a big part of modern culture in America. And parents standing up for their bratty kids is an even bigger problem.

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Yeah... It's been only a little over 10 years since I was in high school, but, the difference b/w then and now is amazing. I worked for the school system a few years ago, and the audacity of many of the kids and their parents was incredible.

I went to a Catholic school which I'll never say was a positive experience, but I learned discipline and respect. No students were ever hit or threatened in any way. It wasn't needed because respecting our elders became natural very early on.
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Yeah... It's been only a little over 10 years since I was in high school, but, the difference b/w then and now is amazing. I worked for the school system a few years ago, and the audacity of many of the kids and their parents was incredible.

I went to a Catholic school which I'll never say was a positive experience, but I learned discipline and respect. No students were ever hit or threatened in any way. It wasn't needed because respecting our elders became natural very early on.
Did you work in the Catholic school system?
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Did you work in the Catholic school system?
No, I worked for a public school, the school system where I graduated (high school). Though I found there to be a remarkable difference in discipline in private versus public schools, having gone to both, I also noticed a major change within that public school from then to now. Maybe it also has to do with school administration and teachers, though the principal at the individual school I worked for was very good. I really don't know - I'm just very, very glad to be away from the education sector. It was during that time I solidifed my decision not to have children.
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When I was in middle school, which was only a decade ago, when we were bad the bus driver would bull over the bus and wouldn't drive until everyone sat down and STFU LOL. It did work though. He or she didn't even have to say anything. They just pulled over, took out a newspaper and chilled out.
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No, I worked for a public school, the school system where I graduated (high school). Though I found there to be a remarkable difference in discipline in private versus public schools, having gone to both, I also noticed a major change within that public school from then to now. Maybe it also has to do with school administration and teachers, though the principal at the individual school I worked for was very good. I really don't know - I'm just very, very glad to be away from the education sector. It was during that time I solidifed my decision not to have children.
This is what I'm worried about since I'm thinking of being an elementary school teacher.
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