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Old 06-28-2012, 08:43 AM   #1
 
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I don't have a link because I'm on my phone but the individual mandate was upheld. Im very relieved. (although I wish we had single payer)
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Can't say I'm happy about this one!
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I don't have a link because I'm on my phone but the individual mandate was upheld. Im very relieved. (although I wish we had single payer)

+1 (since I can't like from my phone)

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Supreme Court upholds health care law - NBC Politics
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The SCOTUS did not approve a “mandate tax”
They simply ruled that it was a tax...one of the big arguments in the case was if the mandate was a penalty or a tax.
The SCOTUS simply ruled that it was a tax. They are prohibited from making a ruling on the Consitutionality of the tax by the Anti-Injunction Act until the tax is actually imposed (which will be in 2014).
They kicked the can down the road.
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I want single-payer, or some other universal option, as well.
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The SCOTUS did not approve a “mandate tax”
They simply ruled that it was a tax...one of the big arguments in the case was if the mandate was a penalty or a tax.
The SCOTUS simply ruled that it was a tax. They are prohibited from making a ruling on the Consitutionality of the tax by the Anti-Injunction Act until the tax is actually imposed (which will be in 2014).
They kicked the can down the road.

Is that how the Right Wing is spinning it? LOL...
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some of the Tweets from people upset with this are entertaining...

"I'm moving to Canada, the United States is entirely too socialist"

"The supreme court upheld Obama Care. That's it. I'm moving to Canada!"

"Individual mandate upheld, this fudging ridiculous. I'm marrying a Canadian n moving to Canada"

"#SCOTUS holds up free healthcare for everyone?! Screw this commie country, I'm moving to #Canada #whoswithme"


do you think we should tell them?

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some of the Tweets from people upset with this are entertaining...

"I'm moving to Canada, the United States is entirely too socialist"

"The supreme court upheld Obama Care. That's it. I'm moving to Canada!"

"Individual mandate upheld, this fudging ridiculous. I'm marrying a Canadian n moving to Canada"

"#SCOTUS holds up free healthcare for everyone?! Screw this commie country, I'm moving to #Canada #whoswithme"


do you think we should tell them?


I definitely got a laugh out of this!!!

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Old 06-28-2012, 10:58 AM   #10
 
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Don't tell 'em, Rou. If they're that uninformed, leave them alone for the rest of us to giggle at.
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The SCOTUS did not approve a “mandate tax”
They simply ruled that it was a tax...one of the big arguments in the case was if the mandate was a penalty or a tax.
The SCOTUS simply ruled that it was a tax. They are prohibited from making a ruling on the Consitutionality of the tax by the Anti-Injunction Act until the tax is actually imposed (which will be in 2014).
They kicked the can down the road.
Nope. Read the ruling:

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1. CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS delivered the opinion of the Court with
respect to Part II, concluding that the Anti-Injunction Act does not
bar this suit.
The Anti-Injunction Act provides that “no suit for the purpose of
restraining the assessment or collection of any tax shall be maintained in any court by any person,” 26 U. S. C. §7421(a), so that those
subject to a tax must first pay it and then sue for a refund. The present challenge seeks to restrain the collection of the shared responsibility payment from those who do not comply with the individual
mandate. But Congress did not intend the payment to be treated as
a “tax” for purposes of the Anti-Injunction Act. The Affordable Care
Act describes the payment as a “penalty,” not a “tax.” That label
cannot control whether the payment is a tax for purposes of the Constitution, but it does determine the application of the Anti-Injunction
Act. The Anti-Injunction Act therefore does not bar this suit. Pp. 11–
In other words, (from Scotusblog):

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Before reaching the merits of the Affordable Care Act case, the Supreme Court held that that Anti-Injunction Act (AIA) – a statute that bars suits to restrain the collection of taxes – does not apply to suits challenging the individual mandate.
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some of the Tweets from people upset with this are entertaining...

"I'm moving to Canada, the United States is entirely too socialist"

"The supreme court upheld Obama Care. That's it. I'm moving to Canada!"

"Individual mandate upheld, this fudging ridiculous. I'm marrying a Canadian n moving to Canada"

"#SCOTUS holds up free healthcare for everyone?! Screw this commie country, I'm moving to #Canada #whoswithme"


do you think we should tell them?

That is beyond hilarious!! Such idiots.
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some of the Tweets from people upset with this are entertaining...

"I'm moving to Canada, the United States is entirely too socialist"

"The supreme court upheld Obama Care. That's it. I'm moving to Canada!"

"Individual mandate upheld, this fudging ridiculous. I'm marrying a Canadian n moving to Canada"

"#SCOTUS holds up free healthcare for everyone?! Screw this commie country, I'm moving to #Canada #whoswithme"

do you think we should tell them?

HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!! What idiots!!!
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Saw this on FB and LOL-ed.



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some of the Tweets from people upset with this are entertaining...

"I'm moving to Canada, the United States is entirely too socialist"

"The supreme court upheld Obama Care. That's it. I'm moving to Canada!"

"Individual mandate upheld, this fudging ridiculous. I'm marrying a Canadian n moving to Canada"

"#SCOTUS holds up free healthcare for everyone?! Screw this commie country, I'm moving to #Canada #whoswithme"

do you think we should tell them?

I want to think these may be people who are trying to be ironic/humorous ....

But then again, I may be seriously overestimating the intelligence of the average person with a Twitter account.
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at least some people realize...

"I can't believe universal health care was upheld! This country is going to hell. I'm moving to Canada! ... wait a minute!"

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Its not a tax! Oh wait a minute, just kidding, it is a tax. Thats what you call a bait and switch. Get ready to pay more taxes folks and see the cost of healthcare continue to climb.
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Breaking: Conservatives planning to leave U.S., but can't find wealthy Western democracy without universal health care.
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Breaking: Conservatives planning to leave U.S., but can't find wealthy Western democracy without universal health care.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:12 PM   #20
 
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My boss is super conservative and he was just cursing up a storm today.

I have to say I was quite nervous. Justice Thomas' opinion was basically an I told you so...it said basically the Court's interpretation of law in the past is what caused this outcome. Too funny, it amounted to approximately 4 sentences.

Glad it passed, a step in the right direction. Hello movement to community ratings!!!
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