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Old 07-22-2012, 11:34 AM   #1
 
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I hope she gets a lot of support.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:53 PM   #3
 
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There's a petition going, if that's not referencd in the article linked above.
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I do not think the boys should be protected because they are underage. What they did was reprehensible and she should be allowed to scream it from the mountaintop or the internet or where ever she wants.

As a victim of a sexual assault, I think talking about it takes courage and not being able to name names is inherently dangerous to girls these boys will come into contact with in the future.

I hope the gag order is revoked and she doesn't have to be punished.
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I think people should be able to identify sexual predators once they are convicted regardless of age. The truth of the matter is right now these teenagers could be sitting next to your child at school and no one would know because ironically they are protected by laws. And teachers and administrators cant say anything because of FERPA laws. If we can post the names, addresses, and pictures of adult sexual predators, we should be able to do the same thing for minors.
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Oh how ****** UP.

I swear this country loves shaming/perpetrator sympathizing as much as it loves football. And yeah, I get it, innocent until proven guilty, but what woman would want to have courage and speak out when they see this sort of bs?!? I get so mad over this sort of thing because, not going into detail, I wish I'd had enough courage to speak out.

This...is a shame.


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1.) This pissed me off.
2.)did they keep her sexual assault secret (that sounds awful but you know what I mean)? Theres frickin pictures of it! Anywhere! Floating around! How is that even fair that they should be kept secret? I can't imagine how that must feel, I'm sure she was humiliated at school for it, because kids are a55holes. That judge is sipping on diarrhea, cause that is some bullspit.
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That is effed up, and makes me sick. She deserves to scream their names from the roof top, and deserve no consideration what so ever.

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Can we talk about how ****ed up it is that even with photographic evidence of the crime prosecutors still offered a plea bargain? Because I can't get past that point. Rape really isn't treated as a real crime.

Good for that girl for speaking up. It's disgusting that a victim is forbidden to speak out.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:02 PM   #10
 
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Is there a law there that they don't publish the names of any offenders under the age of 18? We have one, so regardless of the crime someone commits, as long as they are tried as a youth, the names and details are not published. The point is to allow rehabilitation of young people. Usually the newspapers will be able to provide enough other details/circumstances that people can still figure out who it is, though.

I don't think she should have gone on Twitter in direct violation of a court order. Of course she is opening herself to a contempt charge by doing that. There were other ways to handle this and that was not a good way. I don't know if she discussed this with her parents or lawyer or anyone else, but if they advised her to go on Twitter and do that, they counselled a crime and should be held accountable also.

Without knowing the details, my guess is that one of the reasons for a plea might have been the prosecution's concern for the privacy of the victim (not knowing she felt this way) and the fact that there was more than one offender. Even with photographs, it is really difficult where there is a group crime to prove beyond a reasonable doubt who did what and who was there, so it might have seemed better to go for the sure thing of the plea. That's not just for sexual assault but for group beatings or any other crimes.

I do agree though that there are issues with the way sexual assault is treated by the courts. It has got better, but there is still a way to go.
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I'm on the fence here.
This girl should have every right and I applaud her bravery and frustration. However she did break a court order and should be held accountable.
Because~
These are minors. They should be given the chance to "grow" up. On one hand I can't see how such an act can be held quiet, and the other I want to believe that they were just immature punks who got caught up in the moment and didn't know any better.
But other kids this age need to be protected from from idiots like this. Hence I'm glad she spoke up. She'll take her punishment. The act of contempt will likely be nothing compared to what she has already had to endure and will have to live with for the rest of her life.
I support her. She should be fined for speaking the names of a closed case of minors, but I still am glad she did it. Those "boys" can now try even more to repair their names, themselves, their lives with everyone knowing what is they did. I'm sorry the internet is permanant and vast and anything that makes it there is forever but maybe you should have thought about that before you did what you did... rapists.
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So the boys were tried as juveniles...but she's facing an adult punishment? That's nice.

Don't worry, NOW will pay the fine and any judge that sentences a 17 y/o sexual assault victim to 180 days in the county jail will be facing a very short career!
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So the boys were tried as juveniles...but she's facing an adult punishment? That's nice.

Don't worry, NOW will pay the fine and any judge that sentences a 17 y/o sexual assault victim to 180 days in the county jail will be facing a very short career!
Yeah that was REAL grimy. You're charging her as an adult and them as minors because...?


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So the boys were tried as juveniles...but she's facing an adult punishment? That's nice.

Don't worry, NOW will pay the fine and any judge that sentences a 17 y/o sexual assault victim to 180 days in the county jail will be facing a very short career!
I think the main problem for her will be having a contempt charge on her criminal record, which some employers, schools etc. may not look too kindly upon without having all the back story.

Hopefully they can agree to stay the charges or come to some other agreement to avoid that happening. And I hope she's getting counselling because it sounds like she could use it.
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Didn't the article say the charge was dropped?

Anyway, this poor girl went through a horrific event. She must've had a very crappy prosecutor for the boys to get a plea deal. The fact that they did this, AND posted pictures all over the place shows that they knew what they were doing, and should be punished accordingly. They should have been tried as adults. THIS MAKES ME SICK.

There really is a damn war against women in this country, that this can happen and no one in the judicial system bats a effing eye
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Didn't the article say the charge was dropped?

Anyway, this poor girl went through a horrific event. She must've had a very crappy prosecutor for the boys to get a plea deal. The fact that they did this, AND posted pictures all over the place shows that they knew what they were doing, and should be punished accordingly. They should have been tried as adults. THIS MAKES ME SICK.

There really is a damn war against women in this country, that this can happen and no one in the judicial system bats a effing eye
If the charges were dropped, that's good - no need to further ruin her life over this. But hopefully people learn from this and no one else tries to do what she did if they disagree with a court order.

I don't agree the prosecutor was "crappy." Two boys were sentenced and there were likely tons of other people at the party, people taking pictures and posting them, people watching. The victim was drunk and likely can't remember everything clearly. Likely other witnesses were drunk too. She didn't realize this happened until some time after so there's likely no DNA evidence. The prosecution has a high standard to meet and I can see how it would be difficult to do so with such evidence. It would be very hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt who did what and when and how. It can take skill to talk someone into a plea who might otherwise get off completely, which could have happened here (though I'm speculating, of course.)
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^^interesting POV. Hadn't though of it that way.
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