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GoldenBlaze · 08-01-2012, 02:24 AM

Here is a link that will kinda explain why the US has suspicions.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/conte...2/s3557837.htm

curlylaura · 08-01-2012, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBlaze

Here is a link that will kinda explain why the US has suspicions.

Lateline - 31/07/2012: Chinese swimmer accused of doped performance

I am well aware of the reasons why the questions are being asked but when the accused has repeatedly passed all required drug tests you have to accept that she is a great swimmer and deserving winner.

GoldenBlaze · 08-01-2012, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBlaze

Here is a link that will kinda explain why the US has suspicions.

Lateline - 31/07/2012: Chinese swimmer accused of doped performance

I am well aware of the reasons why the questions are being asked but when the accused has repeatedly passed all required drug tests you have to accept that she is a great swimmer and deserving winner.

That's true, however, Marion Jones also passed all her drug tests and I'm sure you remember how that turned out. The IOC keep urine samples on file for 10yrs to test for new enhancing substances that they find out about. I'm happy for her, but it is suspicious that her being as young as she is out swimming a man.

GoldenBlaze · 08-01-2012, 02:49 AM

I want to see Great Britian win a gold medal!!!!!!

curlylaura · 08-01-2012, 05:37 AM

GOLD for UK women's rowers

I reserve the right to post about Team GBs wins

rouquinne · 08-01-2012, 05:53 AM

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... when the accused has repeatedly passed all required drug tests you have to accept that she is a great swimmer and deserving winner.

Ben Johnson passed all his drug tests up until the one after the gold medal in Seoul.

silver this morning for Canada in men's 8 rowing!

Devushka · 08-01-2012, 06:02 AM

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GOLD for UK women's rowers

I reserve the right to post about Team GBs wins

Hooray for UK's Women Rowing Team!! It would have been terrible to host the games and not get any gold. Hopefully more golds are on the way.

And breathe easily -- This new thread is purposefully intended for people to post Olympics news they'd like. That way we can all share updates that we're excited about (e.g. I'm SO posting any additional medals that Phelps might win!

), and those who prefer to wait until the events air on TV wherever they are can simply avoid this thread.)

All is well in naturally curly land!

frau · 08-01-2012, 06:19 AM

i....despise....ryan....seacrest.
i don't want to see simon cowell interviewing athletes!
i don't want to see paula abdul interviewing athletes!
so why in the world would i want to see ryan seacrest???

i despise this olympic coverage!
it's like watching someone masturbate.
i don't want to see michael phelps mother or sister anymore.
i am tired of the bias!
i don't just want to watch the united states and russia or china, i want to see it all.
who cares what time events come on! put them on live!!
i'd rather wake up at 3 am and watch the american gymnasts win gold than read it in someone's facebook book post!
i hate this coverage.
i feel like some sorority girl put it together, it's so one sided and sugary sweet.

and furthermore, i like that they have the two best from all the countries competing!! sadly, no matter who is competing it seems that we have to sit shiva over the fact that whatshername didn't make it!

look at how the russians were all falling down. i'd love to see some papau new guinean come from nowhere and win something. i like underdogs. best of the best my foot! best of the steriod users!!

you know what? it wouldn't matter who was competing because the nbc cameras are only focused on the u.s. team and their crazy parents! i don't want to see them!!
(ok, i really do but in moderation)

legends · 08-01-2012, 06:20 AM

I had heard about the doping suspicion for the Chinese swimmer...so it's the Americans who are leading that charge? Ugh.

I looked up the gymnast who was the previous record holder for most Olympic medals, and then I started looking at old gymnastics videos. The difference from the '50-60's and today is remarkable. The uneven bars especially--the bottom bar got used a lot more, lots of standing and posing on the bars and even dismounting from a standing position.

Devushka · 08-01-2012, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBlaze

Here is a link that will kinda explain why the US has suspicions.

Lateline - 31/07/2012: Chinese swimmer accused of doped performance

I am well aware of the reasons why the questions are being asked but when the accused has repeatedly passed all required drug tests you have to accept that she is a great swimmer and deserving winner.

That's true, however, Marion Jones also passed all her drug tests and I'm sure you remember how that turned out. The IOC keep urine samples on file for 10yrs to test for new enhancing substances that they find out about. I'm happy for her, but it is suspicious that her being as young as she is out swimming a man.

I hate the legacy that doping leaves on the Olympic Games (and sports in general) -- We want people to do their best, but if they do, there's the suspicion that they're doping. And yes, unfortunately it's very possible that there are some athletes at these Games who are doping (Absolutely NOT saying that Ye Shiwen is one of them!); that's just the sad state of things in many sports these days.

It just makes me mad at people like Marion Jones, Ben Johnson, Mark McGwire (U.S. baseball), etc. who knowingly use performance enhancing drugs but deny it, and then of course the truth is revealed. It's a cat & mouse game, but they must have known there was a good chance they'd get caught or couldn't live with the lie and would eventually confess. The burden of their guilt is then unfairly borne by NON-doping athletes who come along and do phenomenal things but are surrounded by suspicion.

Amneris · 08-01-2012, 06:31 AM

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I had heard about the doping suspicion for the Chinese swimmer...so it's the Americans who are leading that charge? Ugh.

I looked up the gymnast who was the previous record holder for most Olympic medals, and then I started looking at old gymnastics videos. The difference from the '50-60's and today is remarkable. The uneven bars especially--the bottom bar got used a lot more, lots of standing and posing on the bars and even dismounting from a standing position.

I thought it was the British press that started it.
She's 16. Leave her alone. It's so sexist to be shocked that she can out-swim a man!

frau · 08-01-2012, 06:32 AM

i wonder if there will come a day when men and women will compete in the same events together? maybe if we train them together when they are young?

i hope that chinese girl won legitimately. apparently it's hard to tell these days with blood doping. (lance armstrong)

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"Blood doping" refers to any illicit method of boosting an athlete's red blood-cell supply in advance of competition. The typical adult male's hematocrit—the percentage of his blood that is composed of red blood cells—hovers around 45. Since red blood cells carry oxygen through the bloodstream, increasing the number of them allows an athlete's blood to deliver oxygen to muscles more efficiently, reducing fatigue and giving the athlete an edge. Endurance athletes often train at high altitude for precisely this reason. The lower air pressure and diminished atmospheric oxygen at altitude spur the body to generate extra red blood cells, and can bump the hematocrit up two or three (non-illicit) percentage points.

Athletes can get a bigger—and illegal—boost by injecting themselves with erythropoietin (EPO), a hormone that stimulates RBC production. A urine test for artificial EPO was introduced in 1997, but it's not foolproof; while testable traces of artificial EPO disappear from an athlete's body within four days, the hormone's effects are strongest three weeks after injection.

legends · 08-01-2012, 06:35 AM

I know someone who's a power lifter (not Olympic level), and he claims that pretty much everyone in every sport who gets to that level of competition dopes. What it comes down to is if the drugs they're using are on the radar yet. Pharmaceutical companies are constantly developing new performance enhancers, and it takes a while for the various committees to catch up and make them illegal. It also makes a difference how popular the athlete is. Carl Lewis tested positive for steroids but it was kept pretty quiet.

Sounds plausible to me.

frau · 08-01-2012, 06:40 AM

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Carl Lewis tested positive for steroids but it was kept pretty quiet.

if you were only in my house to hear me make the biggest shocking sigh. really?? where was i??
(why aren't there words for that shock breath sound?)

ss40 · 08-01-2012, 06:42 AM

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Carl Lewis tested positive for steroids but it was kept pretty quiet.

if you were only in my house to hear me make the biggest shocking sigh. really?? where was i??
(why aren't there words for that shock breath sound?)

If he did they would have forced him to publicize it like they did with Marion Jones.

I'm cashing out

legends · 08-01-2012, 06:47 AM

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Carl Lewis tested positive for steroids but it was kept pretty quiet.

if you were only in my house to hear me make the biggest shocking sigh. really?? where was i??
(why aren't there words for that shock breath sound?)

Sorry.

Here's one article I found after a quick search:

Lewis: 'Who cares I failed drug test?' | Sport | The Guardian

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Carl Lewis has broken his silence on allegations that he was the beneficiary of a drugs cover-up, admitting he had tested positive for banned substances but claiming he was just one of "hundreds" of American athletes who were allowed to escape bans.
"There were hundreds of people getting off," he said. "Everyone was treated the same."
Lewis has now acknowledged that he failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials, which under international rules at the time should have prevented him from competing in the Seoul games two months later.
The admission is a further embarrassment for the United States Olympic Committee, which had initially denied claims that 114 positive tests between 1988 and 2000 were covered up. It will add weight to calls by leading anti-doping officials and top athletes for an independent inquiry into the US's record on drug issues.

ss40 · 08-01-2012, 06:51 AM

I read the article & I believe what he said. He took a herbal supplement. Let's not act like that doesn't happen. You can't take cold medicine without testing positive. Also why would they revoke some Olympians' medals & not others? Doesn't make sense to me. If he was doping they would have forced him to give up his accomplishments slowly, publicly, & painfully.

I'm cashing out

legends · 08-01-2012, 06:54 AM

*Shrug* I'm too cynical to believe something like that. YMMV, obviously.

I just assume that anyone who gets to that level is on something. It doesn't ruin the enjoyment for me.

divegirl · 08-01-2012, 07:03 AM

Phelps getting out-touched in the 200m fly yesterday was a reversal of what happened in Beijing. I would've loved to see him win that.

Allison Schmitt BLITZED the 200m free. Good to see some Aussie ladies get some medals as well.

LOVE the swimming. It's so hard to avoid Facebook and the news until I can get home and watch the replays. I HATE NBC's coverage.

Poodlehead · 08-01-2012, 07:25 AM

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Well, turns out my quest to watch women's gymnastics in prime time was thwarted with a storm and power outage. So, I'm going to have to watch video tomorrow.

My apologies to laura for being such a cranky pants earlier.

Please forgive...I was out of line.

I am sorry too.

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I'm so happy for the women's gymnastics team, and Phelps! I heard from various different sources about the gymnastics win, but it was still fun to watch! Especially their reactions and whatnot.

Even though I knew beforehand that the USA won gold in gymnastics I was still a ball of nerves watching them perform. Whew! Glad that's over.

Same!

The men's 4x200 was so fun to watch!