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Old 08-09-2012, 01:23 PM   #1
 
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Default Man with hands cuffed behind his back shoots himself in the temple

Yeah....

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/04/op...s-charter.html

Handcuffed man found shot in back of police car | WTVR.com
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I've been following this story, I find it crazy that they expect us to believe they missed a gun after they searched him TWICE. And the guy was double locked into his handcuffs. *sigh*
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:40 PM   #3
 
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Arkansas, eh? Mmmm hmmm...
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Wow! that's is pure determination. when you really want to kill yourself you will find a way. And to boot, he was apparently Houdini. Who else could pull off this feat?

Disclaimer: I may have been born at night, but I wasnt born last night. Someone is lying, and anyone with half a brain dont buy this story.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:05 PM   #5
 
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He shot himself in the right temple...yet he was left handed? Those cops are lying liars.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:11 PM   #6
 
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Let's hope they release the dash cam footage. It definitely smells of rat.

I did once witness a woman who was arrested outside of a bar make a very quick break. She was handcuffed behind her back. They stuck her in the back seat and she worked her arms around her legs, crawled over the back seat (no cage in this particular car) opened the door, and bolted. She did it in a few seconds flat. I was amazed.

Missing a small gun in a quick pat down the first time... Maybe. Missing it twice... No. I don't think so unless it was hidden in the back of the pants, and then in the car between searches. That just seems a bit much.

Again, I hope they release footage. That would be very necessary in this case.

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I hope we can find out what really happened.
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I hope we can find out what really happened.
Exactly, and I hope they are being investigated up one side and down the other. I kept thinking, How do they even make sense of this explanation?? as I was reading the article.


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He shot himself in the right temple...yet he was left handed? Those cops are lying liars.
that was the biggest red flag to me.
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My dial must really be set on "Overload" right now; I went to the article and couldn't read past the first paragraph. Seriously, I felt a physical reaction coming on.
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here's a reenactment video...bizzare!
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ok, but how did they miss the gun after two searches and why would he shoot himself with the wrong hand. unless he wasnt left handed.
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^^^ right and WHY would you commit suicide over this?? was there more going on? did they not notice him fumbling around with something?

it doesn't make sense that he would do it. it doesn't make sense that the police would do it unless there was an angry exchange and they got mad and shot him or as the guy says there was an accidental discharge and subsequent cover up. it simply doesn't make sense.
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yep! this whole incident shouldnt had happened. why would he kill himself? why would the cops kill him? what happened? where is the tape from the cop car? from my understanding there was a camera, right?
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i think a lot of times cameras face out not in the car but maybe there's audio but if there were, surely it would have come into play by now.
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yep! this whole incident shouldnt had happened. why would he kill himself? why would the cops kill him? what happened? where is the tape from the cop car? from my understanding there was a camera, right?
A lot of people in custody kill themselves...why tnmates often have to surrender their belts and shoelaces at intake.

People on drugs and involved in criminal activity are often depressed and feel their lives are out of control.

And the fact he had an active warrant means he could have been facing a lot of time in the penitentiary. Two reasons a person might kill himself.

The cops would kill him bc cops have a history of brtualizing perpetrators (esp AA ones) who resist arrest or other reasons.

The dash cams face out to the street in front of the squad car. They wouldn't show the actual shooting but maybe the movement of the officers in front of the squad car.
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i didn't know his criminal history. still most people aren't on suicide watches unless they do something really bad where they'd be in jail for life or have a death sentence. even if he had the motivation it seems so unlikely that his motivation would have been that strong and the cops would have done everything wrong (namely missing the weapon) so that he could carry out the act while handcuffed...
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