Go Back   CurlTalk > Life > Non-hair discussion

Like Tree2Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-13-2012, 09:57 PM   #21
 
jeepcurlygurl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 14,692
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves View Post
I think women have always had this heavy bleeding problem in the last decade of their fertility. I know my mother suffered with it and both my grandmothers before that. At one time, hysterectomy was the most common operation in America. Women fought back from that a bit, so the gyn industry looked into alternatives...hormone treatments, and they developed this ablation treatment to destroy the endometrium, first with hot water and then an electritrified mesh thing (Novasure).

There are some true medical reasons for this late-in-life heavy bleeding...crazy fluctuating menopausal hormones, uterine fibroids, etc. But, mostly, it's just kinda ideopathic (unknown origin). I wonder if it's because, evolution-wise, women are supposed to still be bearing children and breastfeeding well into their 40's, and would therefore be bleeding less, but most modern women aren't interested in doing that anymore.
Interesting. Thanks! Most of the women I know who have had it done had much less severe symptoms than I do. I think many of them had it done just to end their periods because they were sick of them. My mom whined about menopause for about 30 years (not exaggerating) but never mentioned heavy periods. My older sister was lucky. In her late 40's she had her period one month, didn't have it the next month or ever again. Here I am at 55 and no end it sight. Strangely I had horrific cramps only for a couple years in my early 50's, then they went away. But my periods became very heavy with huge scary clots, last a 6-8 days, and happen every 2 weeks or so. But I'm not anemic, feel ok most of the time so I'm just waiting it out. Damn periods. Who needs em. : )
__________________
In Western PA
Found NC in 2004. CG since 2-05, going grey since 9-05. 3B with some 3A.
Hair texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal, elasticity-normal.
Suave & VO5 cond, LA Looks Sport Gel, Ojon Restorative Treatment, oils, honey, vinegar.
http://public.fotki.com/jeepcurlygurl/ password jeepy **updated Feb 2014**
https://www.facebook.com/lifetheuniverseandtodd

Last edited by jeepcurlygurl; 08-13-2012 at 09:59 PM.
jeepcurlygurl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:50 PM   #22
 
RedCatWaves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 31,609
Default

I was like your sister, Jeep. They just ended at 48. One month it was there, and, then, never again. Mine were sporatically heavy, but not unbearably so, and usually only for one or two days, and no cramps. And they were spacing out, rather than getting closer together. Both my mother and sister (and also my 2 grandmothers) had hysterectomies in their early 40's because they were practically bleeding to death. I had children much later than any of them though...I really think having 2 of my babies in my late 30's and nursing them for a couple years each was good for my body and helped me break the cycle that my family was handing me. I was very happy to see it gone at 48...but my mother keeps telling me that I'm going to HAVE to have a hysterectomy, because it's just what our family does and I'm not out of the woods yet.
RedCatWaves is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 07:35 AM   #23
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,903
Default

So it seems alot of older women getting it done. My friend its even 30 yet. My cousin had similar periods to her, but wanting to know why she got it checked. she had cysts that were causing her heavy periods. which is why i wanted my friend to get checked out. I really hope the heavy bleeding wasnt a symtom of something worse.
thelio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 07:37 AM   #24
 
jeepcurlygurl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 14,692
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedCatWaves View Post
I was like your sister, Jeep. They just ended at 48. One month it was there, and, then, never again. Mine were sporatically heavy, but not unbearably so, and usually only for one or two days, and no cramps. And they were spacing out, rather than getting closer together. Both my mother and sister (and also my 2 grandmothers) had hysterectomies in their early 40's because they were practically bleeding to death. I had children much later than any of them though...I really think having 2 of my babies in my late 30's and nursing them for a couple years each was good for my body and helped me break the cycle that my family was handing me. I was very happy to see it gone at 48...but my mother keeps telling me that I'm going to HAVE to have a hysterectomy, because it's just what our family does and I'm not out of the woods yet.
Damn, I knew there was a reason I should have had kids! : )
__________________
In Western PA
Found NC in 2004. CG since 2-05, going grey since 9-05. 3B with some 3A.
Hair texture-medium/fine, porosity-normal, elasticity-normal.
Suave & VO5 cond, LA Looks Sport Gel, Ojon Restorative Treatment, oils, honey, vinegar.
http://public.fotki.com/jeepcurlygurl/ password jeepy **updated Feb 2014**
https://www.facebook.com/lifetheuniverseandtodd
jeepcurlygurl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 08:15 AM   #25
 
spiderlashes5000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,334
Default

I'm trying to find some reason not to have it. But so far, it seems all logic points to getting it done.

I'm going to ask my mother if she started getting heavy periods toward the end...and if I recall, she reached menopause pretty early. However, I'm not sure that I'm all that similar to my mother in that way...as I started menstruating when I was barely 12 and she said she was 14 or 15 or something.
__________________
3b (with 3c tendencies) on modified CG

spiderlashes5000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 10:28 AM   #26
 
WurlyLox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,791
Default

My mom had a hysterectomy in her early 30's so I didn't know what to expect. Her mother had 11 kids, so stayed pregnant so much that her experience was atypical, too.

Both of my sisters have had similar problems to mine, though not as bad, but both of them had kids and I didn't. Similar experiences for our cousins who had kids vs. those who didn't.

Lots of fibroids and ovarian cysts complicating things for many of us, too.
__________________
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett
WurlyLox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 12:18 PM   #27
 
RedCatWaves's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 31,609
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000 View Post
I'm trying to find some reason not to have it. But so far, it seems all logic points to getting it done.


If it helps...

All the women I know who have had ablation done, have been fairly happy with the results...even the ones who still needed a hysterectomy. The ablation procedure doesn't seem to be too uncomfortable either...general anesthesia or sedation, a few days of recovery, and a few days/weeks of discharge appear to be all there is to it.
WurlyLox likes this.
RedCatWaves is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 02:19 PM   #28
 
spiderlashes5000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,334
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepcurlygurl View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepcurlygurl View Post
I know many women who've had this done for various reasons - cysts, heavy periods, etc.
Some ablations have been very successful (no periods at all, no cramps, no problems) and others not so successful (still having periods tho lighter, cramps).
And some women were surprised to find out they still had pms, mood swings, etc. I always assumed, since the ovaries are not affected in any way, that most women would still have hormone related issues.
I have very heavy long periods every 2 weeks and am a candidate for ablation, but it's not worth it to me. My periods are uncomfortable and a big nuisance but they aren't life threatening. And I don't feel like spending all that money on something that might not make a difference. Now if it would help hormonal migraines I would think about it since those really do affect my life in a big way.
Plus, hopefully I'll go into menopause one of these days. I've been waiting awhile! : )
Your insurance doesn't cover it?
I'm sure it does, but I have a $2600 deductible which I'm not willing to spend on something that isn't really necessary and might not work. My sister, on the other hand, has had it done twice with not great success but she says she feels better, so I'm not saying it's something others shouldn't do.

Gahhhhh I have to pay $1300 out of pocket for mine...with supposedly one of the best insurance plans around.

But I did some quick calculations and found that if my period returns to it's normal pre-monsoon pattern, I would be spending about $8/month x 12 months a year x about 12 more years of bleeding or $1152 just for tampons and pads. And if I continued to experience the monsoons, the dollar amount would be substantially higher. So the surgery would be pretty much paying for itself if it causes me to stop menstruating. And the psychic benefit to being period-free would be priceless.

(Do I see a Mastercard commercial in the making???)
rouquinne likes this.
__________________
3b (with 3c tendencies) on modified CG


Last edited by spiderlashes5000; 08-15-2012 at 02:40 PM.
spiderlashes5000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 02:29 PM   #29
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,903
Default

Wait a sec! With the best plan you dropping those kinds of bucks!?!?!?! My friend had to have paid around the same thing!! That chick owes me $200. I been letting her wait because you husband was laid off and it was for her daughter (who I consider my niece), to get her glasses. If she can afford this procedure, she can afford to give me my 200 bones!!

Carry on folks!
thelio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 02:39 PM   #30
 
spiderlashes5000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 19,334
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thelio View Post
Wait a sec! With the best plan you dropping those kinds of bucks!?!?!?! My friend had to have paid around the same thing!! That chick owes me $200. I been letting her wait because you husband was laid off and it was for her daughter (who I consider my niece), to get her glasses. If she can afford this procedure, she can afford to give me my 200 bones!!

Carry on folks!
What did you want her to do? Bleed to death? Swim to your house w/ the $200? It's not like she got a facelift. There is a medical rationale for the procedure!

I have an annual $1500 out-of-pocket deductible that started over in July (toward which I've paid nothing). If I'd already met that $1500 deductible, the procedure would be covered 100%.

(But thank God I have what I have...I know it's better than what a lot of people have.)
__________________
3b (with 3c tendencies) on modified CG


Last edited by spiderlashes5000; 08-15-2012 at 02:44 PM.
spiderlashes5000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2012, 02:49 PM   #31
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4,903
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderlashes5000 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by thelio View Post
Wait a sec! With the best plan you dropping those kinds of bucks!?!?!?! My friend had to have paid around the same thing!! That chick owes me $200. I been letting her wait because you husband was laid off and it was for her daughter (who I consider my niece), to get her glasses. If she can afford this procedure, she can afford to give me my 200 bones!!

Carry on folks!
What did you want her to do? Bleed to death? Swim to your house w/ the $200? It's not like she got a facelift. There is a medical rationale for the procedure!

I have an annual $1500 out-of-pocket deductible that started over in July (toward which I've paid nothing). If I'd already met that $1500 deductible, the procedure would be covered 100%.

(But thank God I have what I have...I know it's better than what a lot of people have.)
Buit she was always claiming she didnt have money for food, or for the kids to have a b-day party, or to cremate her mother-in-law. she never has money. Which is why I let it slide. but if she could afford this she could afford to slide me $50!
thelio is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Trending Topics[-]hide

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2011 NaturallyCurly.com